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and by so doing increases the value of the Gov. be subsisted by charity, but to labor. We seek to virtually exonerate this compang from the ernment lands one hundred per cent., is that | laborers there. We can feed and clothe half a duty of commencing this road until it shall be a gift of the lands? Is it a donation? Is it || million men and women in that country. The the pleasure of the company to commence it, a waste of the lands? No sensible man will difficulty is to get them there. If this road by providing that the institution of surveys, say that it is a gift, or a donation, or a waste. were built it would teem with emigrants to the &c., shall be considered equivalent to the comIt is a sensible investment; just such invest- western shore, where they would find happy mencement of the work. ments as this Government is in the habit of homes and could secure an independence for Now, the original corporators, or at least a making.

themselves and their children instead of sub- large portion of them, probably never knew Gentlemen talk about wasting the public sisting on charity in a state of pauperism. that they were named in the act of incorporalands. I am not surprised that some of my Mr. Speaker, I have not said anything in tion. But their names were used, as the names friends from the Atlantic coast, who have | regard to the magnificent gold mines that are of men who are in public life are often used, never seen much of the wilds of the West, || there in our country. I leave that part of to give influence and character to what I rethink these lands would be worth from one the subject to others. I feel less concerned as gard as from beginning to end a scheme of hundred to three hundred dollars an acre ; to that particular matter than I do in that of public plunder. It is time to meet these quesbut the fact is, that these lands have remained homes for men and women now destitute. I tions, and to treat them as they deserve to be unsold for thousands of years, and we to-day see no objection to this bill, and I believe that treated if we would save this nation from are offering them at $1 25 per acre, and can- if we were to sit here and talk for six months overthrow in its finances by those who are not get any price for them. “And that state of there would be the same quibbling objections seeking to deplete and to bleed the nation at things will continue until a road is built hy made to it that we have heard here. I believe every pore and at every point where they can which immigration can go to that region, and that the bill is about as nearly perfect as we get their hands into the 'Treasury. The name the country be secured from the savages. can make one, and that it is a safe bill both of my friend and colleague, [Mr. Bingham,]

Again, I say that the Government will not for the Government and for the company. was inserted in this charter, and yet I will venhave to pay a dime of interest. The Govern- It has been intimated here that this company ture to say he never knew it; I know he never mont only lends its credit. Let us illustrate has sold out once and may do it again. All I knew it. And I suppose others are in a like this point, also. Suppose that a father desires have to say about that is that if they do sell out situation in that respect. to assist his son to commence business, but, I hope their successors will be better prepared As the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Wextfrom misfortunes, has no ready money on hand, to execute this great work than they are, and WORTH) says, there were some parties, however, but has credit at the bank. He draws his | if so let them do it; we want this work done, whose names were used, who did know it, and notes for $10,000, and hands them to his son, and we do not care who does it so that it is done, knew for what purpose they were used. They and says to him, “Here are the notes; you and well done.

went on, and progressing a little way they found can put them in the bank and do business Mr. Speaker, I most ardently desire to see it necessary to sell out to a new band of specuupon them, but you must refund the money this work prosper. We feel that it is almost lators. It is admitted here, I believe, by the by the proceeds of your sales as rapidly as the life of our Pacific coast to have a railroad friends of the bill that the persons who origi

connecting it with the Atlantic. I heartily favor nally organized under this charter have parted Now, suppose the son to be successful; he the Central Pacific railroad terminating at with their interest; and a new swarm are now meets his father's notes when due: is there any San Francisco; but I want two roads, if not pressing Congress for a new appropriation. money paid; is the father called upon to pay three, constructed just as quickly as they can That is the attitude in which this thing is now that $10,000? Not at all. He had no $10,000 || possibly be.

presented. I do not know any of the men conto pay; but he had credit, and that credit One road could be very arbitrary; it might || cerned; I do not know who they were who enabled the son to go successfully into busi- be very tyrannical; but when there are two originally organized. But I undertake to say ness. And, sir, this company does not ask the roads we will have competition, which is said that the fact is that those who originally organGovernment to advance S60,000 or any other to be the life of trade.

ized this company have transferred it to another sum, but simply to gnaranty interest at six per I have heard advanced in this House at this set of men. And that is what I mean by the cent, which would only become due when session many arguments in favor of another new swarin that is here for inore appropriatwenty-five miles of the road are completed. railroad to the city of New York. It is said tions, for more money. With their arms alThen the interest on that amount is due; but that we want two roads from Washington to ready in the public Treasury, they want to run one fourth of the gross receipts of the road New York, both to run almost on the same them in further; nothing short of the elbow are to be immediately applied to paying that line. And why do they want two roads? In will answer their purpose. interest. Another provision is, that the com- order to secure competition.

That is the way in which I view this transpany can refund that money by transporting So we want two roads to the Pacific coast; || action; and if I did not deem the condition the mails and munitions of war of the Govern- we want competition on that line. And I firmly of the country's finances such as to call upon ment; and there is no doubt that in a very few believe that within five years of the time when us to defeat this scheme of plunder, I do not years the Government would get back in trans- these roads will be completed each of them know but that I should have remained silent. portation all that it advanced.

will be compelled to lay down a double track do feel, however, that it is time that we should But there is a third resource. The proceeds in order to accommodate the business they will pause for consideration and should stop this of the sales of the one half of these lands, all have to perform. And let us have this road, continual squandering of the nation's resources; the lands lying on the sou side of the road, and the Southern road, and just as many roads for we need them, and we may need them here: would refund to the Government all the money as men will build, without involving the Goy- after more than we do at present. it had paid. ernment in expense. And that is the character

I have said that the first organization have Mr. Speaker, I have seen no man who has of this bill.

sold out, receiving as a bonus for the charter passed over this route to the Pacific coast, either Mr. DELANO. Mr. Speaker, I regard the || $150,000, as I am informed, and the purchasers going or returning, who opposes this measure. subject now before the House as one of very are here for more plunder. This is the “new Every man who has viewed the Pacific coast, great importance. The measure itself has in

swarm” to which I have already alluded. Now, from San Francisco bay to Puget sound, under- trinsic merit; that is to say, the construction I want to show the House what the company stands the nature and necessity of this road. of this road would be important and valuable

received originally. By the original charter I know that many men seem to think that Pu- as regards the interests of the country. there were granted to the company forty secget sound and San Francisco bay are almost But this bill is important independent of tions


mile for all the distance of this road immediately together, and I wish to say that that consideration. It is important because, if

through the Territories and twenty sections per those two points are one thousand miles apart. passed, it will establish a policy which is to mile for all the distance through the States. There we have a coast of near two thousand have upon the nation an intluence that I fear

Now, for the purpose of showing this House miles. We have there an agricultural country will be disastrous to the country; an influence what these gentlemen themselves think is the that is unsurpassed in the world; we have a graz. and a power that the country is not able to value of their original charter, I ask the Clerk ing country that is unsurpassed in the world; endure in the present condition of our finances. we have manufacturing facilities that are unsur

to read a paragriph from a pamphlet which I I therefore propose to call the attention of

send to the desk, entitled " An appeal to Conpassed in the world ; we have one of the health- || the House to some of the important features gress in behalf of the Northwest, in conneciest climates and one of the loveliest countries of this subject, for I think it necessary, and I tion with the construction of the Northern Pain the world, and it will necessarily settle up | deem it important that we all should, without cific railroad and telegraph, by A. Ramsey, very rapidly: and when this railroad shall span reference to any interest except the overriding D. S. Norton, G. H. Williams," and others. from the lakes to the Pacific shores you will interest of the country, bring our minds to the

The Clerk read as follows: then have sources of trade, travel, and com- consideration of this question. merce that will astonish the world. There will In the first place, I desire to say to this

"The company's lands amount to forty sections per

mile in the 'Territories, and twenty sections per mile not only be a grand increase in the tide of com- House that in July, 1864, an act was passed in the States. On the supposition that the latter are merce and travel from the Atlantic to the Pa- | incorporating certain persons under the name

worth twice as much as the former, it inay be said cific, but it will also increase the wealth of the of the Northern Pacific Railroad Company.

that the equivalent of twenty sections per mile (on

the southerly side) the entire length of the line, is to Atlantic coast, for the trade from Asia to Eu- By the terms prescribed in the eighth sec. be set apart forthe security of the Government. This rope must pass through their cities. I am, tion of that act the company was required gives twelve thousand eight hundred acres per mile, therefore, in favor of this bill. I want this road to commence the work on said road within

which at $2 50 per acre, amounts to $32,000, about tho built in order that the starving men, women,

average sum per mile on which the proposed guartwo years from the approval of the act. They antee is to take effect. Supposing, therefore, that the and children upon the Atlantic shore may have || have not done so, (for what reason I am company should sell six per cent. annually of these the privilege of emigrating to the western shore unable to say.) And now it is proposed, I will

lands, the proceeds of which are to be paid into the

Trensury, sixty percent. would be sold during the ten of the Republic. We want them there, not to. Il not say invidiously, but I will say ingeniously, years of the construction of the road, and this pur


centage of the whole is believed to be available for a mile. If this estimate is correct, you have sale and for settlement. On this supposition the Gov- || already donated to this company lands of the

we will pay six per cent. interest on that stock ernment will not come under advances at all."

for twenty years, if necessary. value of $64,000 per mile; but if you have And what will it be, provided we have to pay Mr. DELANO. It will be observed, Mr. only given to this company $32,000 a mile in it for the wbole period of time? It will cost Speaker, that these gentlemen estimate the

lands, how much more shall it have? Can its this nation $68,000,000 simply to pay the intwenty sections in the States as being worth appetite for plunder ever be satiated? I say terest on this stock durivg that period of time. actually and intrinsically as much as the forty that, in my opinion, the grant already made is They want us to guaranty $31,000 a mile, and sections in the Territories. They estimate the sufficient to build the road. I do not suppose with that they will build the road and have the twenty sections in the States as worth $2 50 per the estimate is overdrawn to the extent of one land with all its accretive value, made more

And then they show, by their own esti- half. I suppose it was overdrawn to some valuable with our money. mate, which is put before us to induce us to extent, because they wanted to delude this Mr. PRICE. Will the gentleman allow me give further aid to this road, that the value of House again, because they wanted to get more, to interrupt him? the grant already made by the Government to and therefore wanted to make as strong a Mr. DELANO. Yes, sir. the company is $32,000 per mile. They have showing as possible to induce us to give the Mr. PRICE. I wish to know whether the estimated this land with the view of getting us road a larger bounty.

gentleman believes honestly, from the history to give them something more on the faith of It has been suggested to me that more faith of other railroads, in a dollar and cent point this estimate. But, sir, if the estimate be true, is due to this estimate, becanse it was made by l of view, that the Government will not get back will any man tell me that the company is not members of Congress. I will say to my hon- all it pays in the whape of interest in this twentynow able to go on and build that road?

orable friend, who sits near me, that I do not five per cent. of the receipts. Mr. FARNSWORTH. The gentleman will see exactly how that can be. [Laughter.] Mr. DELANO. I answer the gentleman, allow me to suggest, in support of his argu- When we made the grant to this road what no; most emphatically and decidedly, no. ment, that they compute only the land on one did they agree to? I call attention to the con- Mr. PRICE. Then, one more question. side of the road in arriving at the estimate of clusion of section three of the charter. Let What are the data upon which you make that $32,000 per mile. They state that the land on

us see what bargain they then made. I pro- answer? the south side of the road is worth $32,000 per pose to hold them to the

contract unless they Mr. DELANO. I will give them. You say it mile.

made a contract so manifestly unjust to them- will be paid by the proceeds of lands sold and Mr. DELANO. Then, according to their selves that we ought to relieve them.

the income of the road. When


obtained estimate, the land granted to them is worth What is the contract? It is provided in sec. the grant for these lands you said you would $64,000 per mile.

tion three " that no money shall be drawn from Mr. FARNSWORTH. Exactly.

never ask for an appropriation of money. In :

the Treasury of the United States in aid of the less than two years the company is here asking Mr. DELANO. Yet, sir, with amazing construction of the Northern Pacific railroad." for $68,000,000. I know how Governments assurance they now come here and tell us that They agreed, if we would give them this land, are plundered. The entering wedge is in, and with this munificent grant, this princely dona- || amounting in the gross to eighty-eight million then Congress is asked for more; the demand tion, they cannot go on and build that road.

acres, if we would open our hearts and confer for more is persistently made, inside and outWhy, sir, capital throughout the country is now upon them this munificent grant, that they would side of Congress, until it is granted. And my waiting honest and secure investments. If

bind themselves not to come back and call for opinion is now, that if you violate the original this company have anything like the pecuniary money. Yet, sir, here they are to-day-a contract and let the parties in upon the presstrength which they profess to have under the

fresh and thirsty swarm, for that is what they ent application, you will never get any of the grant already made they can get anywhere are; they are here to-day, in violation of this money back, but will lose it all. That is why advances of money sufficient for the comple- contract, asking this Government to pay them I propose to keep my hand out of this trap, tion of the road, and to pretend that it is neces- a large sum of money.

and why I desire this House to keep the nation's sary for Congress give the company more in Mr. LOAN. I would like the gentleman || foot out of it also. order to secure the completion of a road from from Ohio to tell this House who it was that I sincerely believe that the result will be the the Atlantic to the Pacific is a false pretense, made this transfer-who it was that sold it, || complete loss of this money. These men will and if money is obtained from the Treasury by and to whom they sold out. What evidence is take this stock and go into the market with it, such a pretense it is simply obtaining money there of any such transfer?

go to eastern capitalists, men whose vaults by false pretenses, which in Ohio is an indict- Mr. DELANO. I understand it is not de

groan with idle capital, and sell the stock at a able offense.

nied. I have it from a friend of the bill and a discount. If they do it at the rate of fifty per Mr. GRINNELL. Will the gentleman allow member of this House; and I have it from an cent., what of it? It will pay an interest to me to ask him a question?

acquaintance of my own from Vermont, who the purchaser of twelve per cent. on the moncy Mr. DELANO. Yes, sir; as many as the is a credible man. I heard it stated by my paid for it, and they have land enough left to gentleman desires. This is a school of cate- honorable colleague [Mr. SIELLABARGER] to- make the stock valuable independent of this, as chism.

day. It comes to me from a reliable source. I have shown you already, by the grant. And Mr. GRINNELL. I desire to inquire of It comes upon the wings of the atmosphere, if they have any ingenuity by the issue of this the gentleman whether he believes that this that this transfer has been made. Does the

stock, or upon the supposition that the Govestimate of the value of the land granted by l gentlemau deny it?

ernment will issue it, they can employ any Congress to this company is a correct estimate. Mr. LOAN.' I have no information of the quantity of lobbyists by offering to sell it at a Mr. DELANO. Now, I want to make a fact.

moderate discount. Yankee contract with the gentleman. If I Mr. DELANO. If we can ever get this pro- Sir, what right have we now in the present answer his question categorically, will he ject into the hands of the Committee on Pub. position of the country to lay hold on the answer me a question ?

lic Lands, I hope to get a report that will probe | Treasury and subject the people to the danger Mr. GRINNELL. Yes, sir.

this sore to the bottom, and draw out of it the of this additional taxation? You tell me, Mr. DELANO. Well, then, does the gen- feculent corruption which it seems to me lies however, that the road is necessary, and that tleman believe that these men are guilty of there, so that it may be exposed to the public | if we do not build it Canada will. Sir, if your misrepresentations, either willfully or by negli- eye and receive the condemnation which it | grant is worth anything in comparison to your gence? merits.

estimate of it, or what it is estimated at, there Mr. GRINNELL. I desire first to have an

It is proper, I presume, as the world goes, are capitalists that are desirous to take and answer to my question.

if these men can get a further grant from the complete the road, and what you ask for now Mr. DELANO. My opinion, then, is that Government, for them to do so; but I say


is only another nee donation to men who this is an overestimate. Now, I ask the gen- it is a plunder of the nation which ought not do not merit and do not deserve it, and to tleman, if that is the case, why those gentle- to be endured. I am speaking for my coun- whom it is not necessary to offer it in order to men made that estimate?

try, at a time and period of its existence when secure the construction of the road. Mr. GRINNELL. They are perhaps men it is necessary to speak boldly and plainly, hit I make the point here that if they have of romantic ideas, and I think have set the whom it may, strike where it will. The nation $32,000 per mile in land when the land is estivalue of the land too high. demands it.

mated at $1 25 an acre, they have money enough Mr. DELANO. I think so, too.

What do these gentlemen want more, these now to build the road; and if they cannot build Mr. GRINNELL. But the gentleman's men who made a contract with the Government it with that they are not the proper parties to admission as to the value of the land destroys and who have got this munificent grant? What go on, and there is no reason why this Gov. his own argument. I now desire to ask the further do they demand of us? I will show ernment should be asked to make this addigentleman another question.

the House in a few minutes. They demand of tional donation. Mr. DELANO. Oh, no; I decline to answer us to guaranty $57,000,000 of stock for a period Mr. Speaker, I know very well that there are any more. Our contract is closed.

of twenty years at the rate of six per cent. in- reasons why these considerations should be Grant there is an over-estimate. It only terest. It is stock to the average amount of expressed. Our nation now groans with the shows how we are imposed upon by these men $31,000 per mile the entire length of the road, weight of public debt and necessary taxation, who come here to ask us for this grand and some eighteen hundred miles. A portion of and our credit must be maintained. I know magnificent donation. It shows how we have it is to be issued at the rate of $20,000 per that there are now floating claims against this always been imposed upon. But I will allude mile, a portion at $25,000, a portion at $30,000 nation not less in amount than $4,000,000,000, to this again in a few moments.

and a portion at the rate of $50,000; and the according to my estimate ; and these claims, Let me say here, if this estimate exceeds the average on eighteen hundred miles of the road if admitted at all, will never be settled with actual value of the grant to the extent of fifty is $31,000 per mile, making in the aggregate less thar: $2,000,000,000. I do not believe they per cent., still you have a grant worth $32,000 || $57,000,000. And we are asked to agroe that will be settled for that. The great private losses of only loyal men sustained during this war for Mr. HENDERSON. Will the gentleman Mr. LATHAM. That was made for another the nation's life will be pressed, and pressed, | allow me to ask him a question?

purpose. and pressed upon this nation; and, sir, by and Mr. DELANO. I will hear the question. Mr. SPALDING. It was made for another by, in some form or other, when we have Mr. HENDERSON. I would ask the gen. purpose; the gentleman is correct in that. It reconstructed the Government, when all the tleman if he means that the Government is not was made for the purpose of inducing confidence States shall nove again in their accustomed to undertake any enterprise until the public by capitalists in the stock of this company, and spheres in harmony with each other, when we debt is all paid off. Is that the doctrine of induce them to invest their money in it. are again a united people, not only by law, but the gentleman?

Now, I do not design to impute any improper in heart, then the time will come when this Mr. DELANO. I have not said that, nor motives to the Third Auditor of the Treasury; country must decide what shall be done for have I said anything that will lead to that in- far from it. I believe he was expending his such claimants, and we must, in order to act ference. I have said that after the large grant best judgment upon the question then submitprudently, husband our resources as an upright | already made to this company, there is no

ted to him for his opinion, for he proceeds in man would who was resolved to be just before

justice in our making the additional grant that a portion of his letter to describe these lands, he was generous, and to pay his debts before is now proposed to be made to them.

their quality, their location, and everything be made a settlement upon his children, or an But I alluded to the condition of the coun: about them. And he thus concludes by giving endowment upon his wife. You must husband try and the state of the national finances for

his estimate of the value of the grant made by your resources now for the financial trial that

the purpose of showing that we should not now the Thirty-Eighth Congress assuring the capiis before you. Do not let the world see you go into this enterprise. I do it in the convic- talists that if these lands are judiciously mangoing into the gigantic schemes of plunder for tion that the system now proposed will at once

aged, they will provide the means to construct the benefit of corporations, thereby shaking shock our credit at home and abroad ; that it

this road from the Grand Trunk in Canada to your credit before the nations of the world.

will have a bad influence upon the nation's Puget sound and the navigable waters of the Husband your resources and proceed with cau

credit, at the very moment when we are strain- | Columbia, and in addition to that, fit out a fleet tion, deliberation, and frugality.

ing every nerve and making every exertion to of merchant vessels and steamers for China I know, sir, that we all by nature and edu

bring this country back to a system of specie and East Indies, with a margin left of " milcation admire the grand, the beautiful, and

payments; when we should economize our lions of dollars." the sublime. We look out upon the thunder resources and expenditures for the purpose of

Upon this munificent grant a company springs storm and we behold the majesty and power accomplishing that great work as one of the up-reorganized, they tell us- -and asks us to of the Almighty with pleasure and interest. necessities before us.

do, what?

Why, in the face of a present asWe stand before the great cataract of Niagara Without discussing this subject further, I certained indebtedness on the part of our Govand behold the wondrous workings of the di- will yield the remainder of my time to my col

ernment of nearly fourthousand million dollars; vine power in awe; and it seems to me that league, (Mr. SPALDING.]

in the face of the taxation now imposed upon from this love of the great and sublime, when

Mr. SPALDING. I well recollect, Mr.

our people to pay current national expenses in this Hall of Representatives, as we look

Speaker, when the act was passed, which has and the interest upon the public debt, we are upon schemes of public plunder, the larger, the more magnificent, the more sublime they are,

been alluded to in this discussion, conferring asked to pay interest upon the bonds of this the more are we likely to fall into their sup

upon an association of gentlemen, mainly from company. To what extent, sir? The sum New England, I think some forty-seven million

total of the amount upon which the Governport. It is time that we should fall back to a acres of land for the construction of a railroad

ment is to bind itself to pay interest at six per more sensible and rational view of things. called the Northern Pacific railroad; and I

cent. per annum is $57,420,000. One year's Mr. BOUTWELL. Will the gentleman let recollect as well that I then entered my pro

interest upon this amount is $3,445,200. me ask him a question? testation against that grant, as I do now against

But, say the advocates of this measure, the Mr. DELANO. Certainly, sir.

Government never will be called upon to pay Mr. BOUTWELL. I would ask the gentle. charging upon the Government liabilities for

the whole sum. moneys in the shape of interest upon stocks to

When the first twenty-five man whether, when he refers to this floating be issued by this organization. I considered

miles of the road shall be completed, then the debt which cannot be liquidated without an

it an association contrived for stock-jobbing amount will be estimated at an average rate, expenditure of $2,000,000,000, he refers to claims that may be brought by persons in the

purposes. But my words of admonition were as stated here, of $31,900 per mile, making not heeded; that bill became a law, and thereby

for the twenty-five miles $797,500, on which eleven States lately in rebellion? the United States, in the language of my friend

the Government is expected to pay interest. Mr. DELANO. I refer only to claims of who has just taken his seat, (Mr. DELANO,]

When the first twenty-five miles are completed loyal persons. Mr. 'BOUTWELL. I would ask him whether were virtually robbed of forty-seven million

the bonds are to be issued and the indemnity


by the Government is to go into effect. he includes claims that may be brought by per

acres of land.
But it is said on the one side that this grant

that time the interest upon this suin for the sons in the eleven States recently in rebelconsisted of poor land; while on the other,

first twenty-five miles will amount to $47,850, lion? Mr. DELANO. I refer to such claims as will when it suits the parties better, it is said that

which is to be paid out of the Treasury; and these lands were the most fertile of the West,

so on from the first twenty-five miles to another be made by loyal people in all the States, and and of a value almost incalculable.

twenty-five miles, and another, and another, none others. When I say that it will take

Mr. Speaker, I hold in my hand a report

until the road is completed. $2,000,000,000, I do it on the assumption that made to the Boston Board of Trade last au

But it is claimed by the advocates of this bill we shall compound these claims in some diantumn, at the instance of these corporators, to

that the Government is here offered complete ner without settling up to the full amount. Mr. BOUTWELL. . Is that to be one of the show the extent and quality of the grant which

security for assuming this liability. Security the Thirty-Eighth Congress made to this cor

in what way?. The company will give us, they effects of reconstruction? Mr. DELANO. I did not say so; but the poration. And it consists of a certifico.te over

say, as security one half of their lands-aŭ nation will ultimately have to meet this ques. the signature of a gentleman who for a long

their lands lying on one side of the road. The time administered the duties of the General

other half they reserve for their own purposes, tion, and settle it, in some form, either by com

Land Office, who was for a time one of the act- speculative or otherwise. One half of our liberal pounding or refusing to pay. I do not know that it will necessarily follow reconstruction. I

ive managers of the Illinois Central Railroad gift to this company they give us back as secuhave not got that disease upon the brain. Company, and who is now the efficient Third

rity for the further advancement in the shape

which we Mr. BOUTWELL. Nor upon the heart

Auditor of the national Treasury. I send to | of a loan of the national credit, upon

the Clerk and ask him to read for the benefit are to pay interest, as upon bonds, for twenty either. Mr. DELANO. What did the gentleman

of this House in his audible tones of voice the years. Now, I am willing to take the chair: opinions of Hon. John Wilson in regard to the

man of the Pacific Railroad Company at his say-"nor upon the heart?Mr. BOUTWELL. I understood the genvalue of the land grant now held by this asso

word. For the sake of argument, I will admit ciation.

all the great practical benefits which it is tleman to say that when the Government was

The Clerk read as follows:

claimed are to result from the construction of reconstructed, and we were one people, not in

this road. I will admit that a portion of these law merely, but in sentiment, then this debt

"I have not the figures, nor would I be able to work

benefits will flow in upon my own people, for would be paid. I would as lief spend the money

them up if I had; but comparing this with the Illi-
nois Central railroad grant, I think it would be a

it is claimed that all along the route from Minon the Niagara ship-canal.

small estimate to say, that if this grant is properly nesota through Lake Superior and all the great Mr. DELANO. I have no doubt the gentle

managed it will build the entire road.connecting with man would rather spend it upon the Niagara the present terminus of the Grand Trunk, through to

chain of lakes, even to New England, the benePuget sound and head of navigation on the Colun

fits resulting from this great national work ship.canal, because that will perhaps open up bia; fit out an entire fleet for the China, East India, must flow in most copiously. I adınit it all. I a way to where he lives, or promote in some

and coasting trade, of sailing vessels and steamers; way the interests of his constituents. and leave a surplus that will roll up to millions.”

will go further and admit, if you please, that

so soon as the first twenty-five miles of road Mr. BOUTWELL. It opens up a way from

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. That shall have been completed, and it shall be asthe great West to the Atlantic.

pamphlet is put out in the interest of the com- certained that the company can stand upon its Mr. DELANO. I am from the great West, pany.

own feet, they will not call upon the Treasury and although my friend thinks I have not re- Mr. SPALDING. Yes, sir; it was made for a dollar. I say that, even admitting that construction in my heart, I have in my heart for the purpose of obtaining stock in Boston not one single dollar may ever be taken from tlig interests of the western country, and I pro- at the hands of the capitalists of that city. the national Treasury by reason of this underfess to understand them. Certain it is that I Mr. LYNCH. Will the gentleman allow me || taking, still I say the weight of the argun.ent am not afflicted with ossification of the heart if to ask him a question ?

is against any such proposition as that contained I have not reconstruction in that organ.

Mr. SPALÞING. Not now.

in this bill.


Sir, we cannot assume at this moment, in


as the bill alluded to has been declared to be behalf of the Government, a liability of $57,- On motion of Mr. DAWES, leave of absence the law of the land by the action of the two 000,000 without shaking faith in its responsi- was granted to Mr. Hooper for one week.

Houses of Congress, and as they feel bound to bility and integrity. Why, sir, one of the first lessons which we learn in our school-boy days | do now adjourn.

Mr. BENJAMIN. I move that the House | regard Mr. Davis as standing in the attitude of

an avowed enemy to the Government, as set is that money is credit”' and credit is money."

The motion was agreed to ; and thereupon (at forth in his declaration, they ask that he be So long as our nation preserves its credit it can command money. But, sir, if you heap upon

twenty-five minutes past four o'clock p.m.) the expelled from the Senate. I offer this petition House adjourned.

and ask its reference to the Committee on the the Government, the organ of the nation, lia

Judiciary. bility upon liability, even though ultimately the

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. That refpayment of those liabilities may never be ex


erence will be ordered, if there be no objecacted, still the bare fact that the nation is lia- The following petitions, &c., were presented under tion, ble for such immense sums shakes the faith of

the rule and referred to the appropriate committees:
By Mr. BAXTER: The petition of William Bray-

Mr. DAVIS. I ask the Senate to permit the capitalists, not only here, but in Europe, in our ton, and 44 others, citizens of Alburg, Grand Isle Clerk to read that petition. capacity to meet our liabilities and pay punctu

county, Vermont, praying for an increased duty on The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It will be

wool. ally the principal and interest of our public debt.

Also, the petition of A. B. Keeler, and 53 others,

read, if there be no objection. No man should doubt this. It is common citizens of South Hero, Grand Isle county, Vermont, The Secretary read as follows: It is predicated upon ordinary busi

praying for an increased duty on imported wool.
Also, the petition of Linas Leavens, and others,

To the Senate of the United States : ness experience. No individual who has any

The undersigned, citizens of the United States, citizens of Berkshire, Franklin county, Vermont, regard for his credit will suffer his liabilities to praying for an increased duty on imported wool.

earnestly pray your honorable body: as Mr. Davis,

Senator from Kentucky, declared in his speech of the exceed greatly his ability to pay; and although

Also, the petition of Henry S. Morse, and 40 others, citizens of Shelburn, Chittenden county, praying for

6th instant, in relation to the passage of the bill to a man may not be called upon to pay, yet, if an incrcased duty on wool.

protect citizens in the enjoyment of their civil rights, he in a reckless manner assumes liabilities,

that “if the bill should become a law he should feel

Also, the petition of Lucius A. Isham, and others, men of prudence and sagacity will distrust citizens of St. George, Chittenden county, Vermont,

compelled to regard himself as an enemy of the Gov

ernment, and to work for its overthrow," and as the him. As this principle applies to individuals, praying for an increased duty on imported wool.

bill alluded to has been declared to be a law of the Also, the petition of David A. Murray, and 42

land, by the action of the two Houses of Congress; so does it also to Governments; and it is a others, citizens of Williston, Chittenden county, Verprinciple which we should never disregard in mont, praying for an increased duty on foreign wool.

and as we feel bound to regard Mr. Davis as standour legislation.

Also, the petition of T. S. Rice, and 39 others, citi

ing in the attitude of an avowed enciny to the Govzens of Westford, Chittenden county, Vermont, pray

ernment, as set forth in his declaration, that he be I say, then, Mr. Speaker, I would object to ing for an increased duty on imported wool.

expelled from the Senate, and, with other traitors,

held to answer to the law for his crime. passing this bill into a law on the simple prop

Also, the petition of E. W. Trow, and 46 others,

citizens of Brownington, Orleans county, Vermont, osition that it is not sound policy to make this

Mr. DAVIS. With the permission of the praying for an increased duty on imported wool. Government liable for this large sum of money

Senate I will make a single remark upon that

By Mr. CULLOM: Two separate petitions of suneven though it may never be called upon to

dry citizens of McLean county, Illinois, praying for petition. It is true that I used, in substance, pay a dollar of it. When I say this, I do not

the passage of a law regulating inter-State insurances the words that are imputed to me in that pe

of all kinds. admit that such will be the result. I rather Also, a petition of sundry citizens of Woodford

tition; but, as a part of their context, I used a agree with my honorable friend and colleague

county, Illinois, asking that Congress shall increase great many more. As an example of garbling, who has made so able an argument on this the tariff upon all imported wool.

the petition reminds me of a specimen that I

Also, a petition of a large number of citizens of subject, that the prospect would be the other Livingston county, Illinois, asking for the passage

heard when I was a young man. It was to this way, that the Government would have to pay of a law regulating inter-State insurances of all

effect: “The Bible teaches that there is no kinds. all rather than none of the liabilities it is thus

God.' When those words were read in con

By Mr. DIXON: The petition of officers of Westcalled upon to assume.

nection with the context, the passage read in erly Savings Bank, Rhode Island, for repeal of inMr. Speaker, I have made my sentiments ternal revenue tax on savings institutions.

about these terms: "The fool hath said in his known in regard to this measure, and I trust

Also, the petition of Dime Savings Bank, Brook- heart that there is no God." That specimen

lyn, South Brooklyn Savings Institution, Emigrant they will justify my vote. I know very well

of the Bible was about as fair as this garbled Savings Bank, Brooklyn, Dime Savings of Wilhow these telegraphic communications to mem

liamsburg, Kings County Savings Bank, and East statement is of what I said upon the matter to bers are brought about. The same agency that

Brooklyn Savings, for repeal of internal revenue which it refers. This is all I have to say. tax on savings institutions.

The memorial was referred to the Commithas been at work around this Hall for months, Also, the petition of Wickford Savings Bank, has worked over the telegraph wires and brought Rhode Island, for same.

tee on the Judiciary.

By Mr. EGGLESTON: The memorial of 120 steama monition to me as well as to the gentleman

PETITIONS AND MEMORIALS. boat owners and underwriters of Cincinnati, Ohio, from Chicago, and no doubt to other members praying for the passage of a law requiring steamboat Mr. EDMUNDS presented a memorial of upon this floor, in order to induce them to suscaptains and mates to procure a license from a board

Joseph E. Oates and Aaron H. Bradley, in of examiners before they enter upon the duties of tain this bill. Sir, I can never be reached in their offices.

behalf of the colored people of Florida and this manner. I must, whenever I vote on an Also, the memorial of Colonel B. Eith, in rogard || Georgia, expressing their views on the subject important measure in this House, be permitted

to payment claimed by the eighth regiment of the
twelfth ward in the city of Cincinnati, for thirty-one

of reconstruction, and praying Congress to to vote according to the honest convictions of

days' service in the Army of the United States near adopt them as conditions precedent to the my own judgment or I will not vote at all; I Cincinnati.

admission of the late rebellious States; which will abandon my position at once, and ask my.

Also, a memorial and the muster-roll of Captain constituents to send some one in my place who Bard's cavalry company, claiming one month's pay

was referred to the joint committee on reconfor service rendered the Government in Ohio and struction. will be more subservient to extraneous influ- Kentucky, during the Kirby Smith raid.

Mr. HOWE presented a memorial of the

By Mr. FERRY: The memorial of John F.Cilley: | Legislature of Wisconsin, in favor of so equal. ences.

and 20 others, citizens of Boston, Michigan, praying
Mr. WOODBRIDGE next addressed the that an ad valorem duty be levied upon foreign wool. izing the bounties awarded by the Government
House. [His remarks will be published in the By Mr. GARFIELD: The petition of 960 citizens of to soldiers during the late war as to make them

Portage county, Ohio, asking such protection on
Mr. FARNSWORTH obtained the floor.
American wool as shall place the producer on equal

as nearly as possible in proportion to the time terms with the manufacturer.

of actual service; which was referred to the Mr. BENJAMIN. Will the gentleman yield By Mr. LAWRENCE, of Pennsylvania: A petition Committee on Military Affairs and the Militia. for a motion to adjourn?

numerously signed by citizens of Westinoreland
county, Pennsylvania, for an increase of duty on

He also presented a memorial of the Legis. Mr. FARNSWORTH. I will yield for that foreign wools.

lature of Wisconsin, in favor of the establishpurpose.

By Mr. LONGYEAR: The petition of William ment of a mail route from Dodgeville to Mr. PRICE. Allow me to say, before the O'Calahan, and 35 others, citizens of Eaton and Ing

Avoca, via James Mills, William S. Bean's, motion to adjourn is put, that I propose to

ham counties, Michigan, asking an extension of the

Amboy, Lansing, and Traverse Bay land grant to the and Booth Hollow, in that State; which was morrow to call the previous question at half eompany of that name.

referred to the Committee on Commerce. past three o'clock.

By Mr. WARD: The petition of William Tropp. of
Elmira, New York, asking for the extension of a

He also presented a memorial of the LegisSeveral MEMBERS. Fix an earlier hour. patent for making barrels.

lature of Wisconsin, in favor of an appropriaMr. PRICE. Well, I will say two o'clock.

tion for widening and straightening the chanMr. WENTWORTH. The understanding


nel of the harbor at Superior, in that State ; was that we would have a fair chance to be heard on this bill.

THURSDAY, April 26, 1866.

which was referred to the Committee on ComMr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. There can Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. E. H. GRAY.

He also presented a memorial of the Legisbe no agreement as to the time when the pre

The Journal of yesterday was read and

lature of Wisconsin, praying the establishment vious question shall be called. approved.

of a mail route from Trempealeau Village, by The SPEAKER. The Chair does not under


way of Arcadia, Burnside, and Hale, to Sumstand that any agreement is proposed, but sim- Mr. SUMNER. I offer a memorial from ner, in that State; which was referred to the ply that the chairman of the committee gives | citizens of New York, in which they set forth Committee on Post Offices and Post Roads. notice that he will call the previous question that Mr. Davis, a Senator from Kentucky, de- He also presented a memorial of the Legison the bill at two o'clock to morrow.

clared in his speech of the 6th instant, in rela- || lature of Wisconsin, in favor of the appointment Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. We do not tion to the passage of the bill to protect citi- of engineers to examine the present waterchanagree to any arrangement of that sort.

zens in the enjoyment of their civil rights, that nels through that State, with a view of enlarThe SPÉAKER. After the notice which || if the bill should become a law he should feel ging the same so as to admit of a uniform steamhas been given by the chairman of the com- compelled to regard himself as an enemy of ship navigation from the Mississippi river to mittee, the Chair will feel compelled to recog. the Government and to work for its overthrow; Lake Michigan; which was referred to the nize him at the time he has indicated.

and these memorialists then proceed to say that Committee on Commerce.


Mr. HOWE. I have also a long preamble to report a joint resolution, providing for their

Mr. JOHNSON. What is the relative and a series of resolutions passed by the Legis- || acceptance.

increase in the revenue? lature of Wisconsin in reference to the votes The joint resolution (S. R. No. 74) providing Mr. SHERMAN. The Senator from Marygiven by my colleague in this body. The res- for the acceptance of a collection of plants tend- land asks me the increase in the revenue. Ι I olutions are in these words:

ered to the United States by Frederick Pech, can tell him generally that since the date of Resolved by the Senute, (the Assembly concurring.) was read a first time by its title, and passed to a the law the revenue from customs has doubled. That the course of Senator Doolittle, in Congress, in second reading:

I think in 1838 the receipts from customs were voting to sustain the President's veto of the Freed

Mr. HENDERSON. I ask the Senate to about sixty inillion dollars. The necessity for men's Bureau bill, in persistently urging upon Congress the immediate right of the inhabitants of the

consider that resolution at the present time. the immediate passage of this resolution, as southern portion of the United States, who were lately The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It requires the legislative appropriation bill will probably in rebellion against the Government, to berepresented in both Ilouses of Congress as inhabitants of States,

the unanimous consent of the Senate to consider not pass Congress for a month or two, is stated and so advocating the principle that the enemies of the joint resolution on the day it is reported. in a recent letter from the Secretary of the the Government are as fit to administer its atlairs as There being no objection, the joint resolution Treasury, which I send to the desk to be read. loyal men are, and finally, in voting to sustain the President's veto of the civil rights bill, in the face

was read the second time, and considered as The Secretary read the following letter: of instructions froin the Legislature to vote for it, fills in Committee of the Whole. It proposes to

TREASURY DEPARTMENT, April 24, 1806. us with pain and indignation. Resolved, That the course of Senator James R.

accept the collection of plants tendered by Sir: On the 24th of March I had the honor to subDOOLITTLE upon the great question of the reorgani

Frederick Pech, by his memoral of March 2, mit to your cominittce a section, designed to be apzation of government among the late rebels, upon the 1866, and that it be deposited in the Depart

pended to the regular appropriation bill, increasing Freedmen's Bureau bill, and the civil rights bill, was

the standing semi-annual appropriation for the exment of Agrienlture, and appropriates the sum a desertion of the cause of human rights and repub

penses of collecting the revenue from customs from lican government, and shows him totally unworthy of $300 to enable the Commissioner of Agricul- $1.800,000 to $2,100,000, and to explain the grounds of

the suggestion. to occupy any position representing a free people, ture to procure suitable cases for the protection much less so high a ono as the people of Wisconsin of such plants.

It is found that the appropriation now on the books in other times have elevated him to; and while it is

of the Treasury will be insulicient to meet the necesnot contended that we can deprive him of his office

The joint resolution was reported to the sary expenses even for the month of April current, of Senator, yet we declare it to be his duty to resign Senate without amendment, ordered to be

and I therefore transmit herewith the same proposihis Senatorsbip, in order that the loyal people of Wis

tion, slightly amended, in the form of a joint resolu. engrossed for a third reading, read the third tion, upon which I would most earnestly request an consin may no longer be misrepresented upon the grave questions which are now being decided by the time, and passed.

early action, it not being probable that the regular American people.

appropriation bill will be acted upon in time to meet Resolved. That the Governor be requested to for


the emergency. ward to each of our Senators and Representatives in

I am, sir, very respectfully,
Congress a copy of the foregoing preamble and reso-
Mr. SHERWAN. I am directed by the

H. McCULLOCH, lutions. Committee on Finance to report a joint resolu

Secretary of the Treasury.

Hon. W. P. FESSENDEN, I move that these resolutions be laid upon tion, and after a short explanation I desire to

Chairman (ommittee on Finance, Senale. the table and printed.

have it put upon its passage now. The motion was agreed to. The Secretary read the joint resolution (S.

The joint resolution was read three times and

R. No. 75) making appropriations for the

expenses of collecting the revenue from cus-
Mr. HENDRICKS. The Committee on

toms. It proposes to appropriate $2,100,000 On motion of Mr. NORTON, it was Public Lands, to whom was referred the bill

for the expenses of collecting the revenue from Ordered, That the bill (S. No. 263) to authorize the (S. No. 206) to quiet land titles in California, customs for each half year, from and after the

Winona and St. Peter Railroad Company to construct have directed me to report an amendment in

a bridge across the Mississippi river and to establish last day of December, 1865, and in addition

a post route, be printed. the nature of a substitute, and recommend its

thereto, such sums as may be received during passage. It is proper that I should say, sir, the half year from fines, penalties, and forteit

BILLS INTRODUCED. that this substitute has been prepared upon ures connected with the customs, and from stor- Mr. CONNESS asked, and by unanimous consultation with the Commissioner of the Gen

age, cartage, drayage, and labor; and it also consent obtained, leave to introduce a bill (S. eral Land Office, the chief clerk of that office,

proposes to repeal the first section of an act No. 286) to provide for the construction of a the surveyor general of California, and myself. | making appropriations for the expenses of col. railroad and telegraph line from the Central It is prepared with a good deal of care, as it || lecting the revenue from customs, approved

Pacific railroad, in California, to Portland, on relates to a very important subject. June 14, 1858.

the navigable waters of the Columbia river, in Mr. ANTHONY, from the Committee on

Mr. SHERMAN. In order to explain the Oregon; which was read twice by its title, Claims, to whom was referred the petition of

matter more fully, I send to the Chair and ask referred to the Committee on the Pacific RailT. S. Briscoe, praying for payment for his to have read a letter of the Secretary of the road, and ordered to be printed. services in recruiting the twenty-sixth regi- Treasury, which has called the subject to our He also asked, and by unanimous consent ment of Iowa infantry, and the sixth Iowa cav. attention.

obtained, leave to introduce a bill (S. No. 287) alry, submitted an adverse report; which was ordered to be printed.

The Secretary read the following letter : to provide for the construction of a wagon road Mr. POMEROY, from the Committee on


from Boise City, in the Territory of Idaho, to Public Lands, to whom was referred a resolu

SIR: The standing appropriation of $1,800,000 for Susanville, in California; which was read twice

each half year, to defray the expenses of collecting by its title, referred to the Committee on Milition of the Senate of the 3d instant, directing the revenue from customs, made by the first section them to inquire into the expediency of estabof the act of June 14, 1858, (11 Statutes, 337.) will be

tary Affairs and the Militia, and ordered to be inadequate to meet the expenses of the current or of

printed. lishing an additional land district in the Terrisucceeding years.

Mr. CLARK. I ask unanimous consent to tory of Nebraska, asked to be discharged from It is estiinated that there will be required an addi- introduce a bill which has been prepared by its further consideration, deeming that it is

tional sum of $300,000 each half year; that is, a total
semi-annual expenditure of $2,100,000.

some person other than myself. unnecessary to have another land district in

I have the honor, in accordance with this view, to There being no objection, leave was granted that Territory; and the report was agreed to. inclose a draft of a section designed to be appended to introduce a bill (S. No. 288) to provide for

to the regular appropriation bill, amendatory of the WILLIAM SAWYER, AND OTHERS.

aforesaid first section of the act of June 14, 1858, to the payment of certain claims against the Mr. HARRIS. The Committee on Private

which I would request your favorable attention. United States; which was read twice by its Very respectfully,

H. McCULLOCH, Land Claims, to whom was referred a joint reso


Secretary of the Treasury. lution (H. R. No. 67) providing for the reapHon. W. P. FESSENDEN,

Mr. CLARK. A bill of similar import went praisement of the lands described in an act for

Chairman Committee on Finance, Senate. to the Committee on the Judiciary; I move the relief of William Sawyer and others, of

Mr. SHERMAN. The matter was first called

that this take the same direction. Ohio, have instructed me to report it without to our attention by that letter; and the Commit

It was so referred. amendment and recommend its passage. It tee on Finance agreed upon an amendment to

Mr. CLARK also asked, and by unanimous will take but a moment, and I ask for its present the legislative appropriation bill some time ago

consent obtained, leave to introduce a bill consideration.

providing for the increase.

The present per

(S. No. 289) to provide for the probate of and There being no objection, the joint resolution manent appropriation for the collection of the for the recording of wills of real estate sitnated was considered as in Committee of the Whole. rerenue from customs is contained in the first

in the District of Columbia, and for other purIt authorizes the Secretary of the Interior to section of an act “making appropriations for

poses; which was read twice by its title, and appoint a commissioner to reappraise the lands the expenses of collecting the revenue from

referred to the Committee on the District of described in the act entitled "An act for the customs” under date of June 14, 1858. I will

Columbia. relief of William Sawyer and others, of Ohio, read that section :

DEATII OF SENATOR FOOT. approved July 2, 1864; but the occupants of That there be, and hereby is, appropriated for the Mr. POLAND submitted the following resothe lands are to pay all the expenses of the

expenses of collecting the revenue from customs, for
each half year, the sum of $1,800,000, payable out of

lution; which was referred to the Committee reappraisement.

any moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropri, on Printing : The joint resolution was reported to the ated, together with such sums as may be received

Resolved, That one thousand extra copies of the Senate without amendment, ordered to a third from storage, cartage, drayage, and labor for said half year.

addresses and funeral sermon delivered in the Senate reading, read the third time, and passed.

on the death of Hon, Solomon Foot, a Senator from The amount of the revenue from customs the State of Vermont, heretofore ordered to be printed COLLECTION OF PLANTS. has been so enormously increased that the

for the use of the Senate, bo printed for the use of

the widow and family of the deceased. Mr. SHERMAN. I am directed by the Com- expenses have increased, not in the same promittee on Agriculture, to wbom was referred the portion but to some extent, and the estimates

APPROVAL OF BILLS. memorial of Frederick Pech, donating to the now require $300,000 more for the half year, A message from the President of the UniUnited States a valuable collection of plants, ll $600,000 additional for the year.

ted States, by Mr. COOPER, his Secretary,

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