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is largely more in gold than the Armes now costs

lion six hundred and seventy-eight thousand gold, to bring the expenditures of the two eras the interior of the continent and to the shores of seventy-eight dollars and fifty cents. The pen- to the same standard, and we find the outlays of the Pacific, through all our remote Territories sion-roll for the year will be thirty million three Buchanan were at the rate of over ninety-eight and sparsely peopled sections, and have also hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and the millions in paper to-day. To this add one third been able to maintain a superb line of mail bounties due and payable will require about for increase of population, and we find the steamers from San Francisco to Hong Kong and thirty million dollars. These three items, which Buchanan expenditures, adjusted to the scale from New York to Rio Janeiro, none of which are not discretionary, amount to the large of to-day, would amount to one hundred and extraordinary enterprises and expenditures aggregate of nearly one hundred and ninety thirty million dollars for the same items that were levied on the Department during Buchanmillion dollars, well nigh two thirds of our we are paying less than one hundred and seven an's administration. total outlay for the fiscal year upon which we millions. And in this calculation I have said These comparisons might be quite indefinitely have just entered. The fact that so large a nothing about the increased military and naval continued, exhibiting in each item the same proportion of our expenditure is the result of force of the present day, which adds immensely | result, and demonstrating with mathematical the war, and is unavoidable unless we repudiate to the account in favor of present economy. certainty that when we take into account the our obligations to our public creditors and our This calculation, stated in these general vast increase of population and the rapid and heroic soldiers, cannot be too often repeated terms, is far more striking and suggestive when | unprecedented development of our country or too thoroughly impressed on the public | you come to examine details. The Army, for during the time the Republican party has been mind; for it is idle to denounce these expend. || instance, cost during the four years of Buchan- || in power, and when we take into further account itures as extravagant unless we are prepared | an's administration, by the official statement the fact that we have been all the while subto withhold them; and whoever proposes to of the Treasury Department, which I hold in jected as a necessity of the war to the disadwith hold them proposes thereby to put the my hand, the large aggregate of $86,307,575 55, | vantage of high prices resulting from paper nation at the same time under the doubly dis- making an average of well nigh twenty-two money; taking, I say, these facts into account, graceful stigma of repudiation and ingratitude. millions each year in gold. And at that I assert and defy contradiction that large as If the Democratic party choose to assume that time the Army consisted in all of nineteen our expenditures have necessarily been they position it is welcome to all the glory of it. regiments ; so that each regiment cost consid- have yet been on a scale of economy and

For the ordinary expenditures of Govern- erably over a million each year in gold. The | fidelity quite unknown during the last Demoment for the fiscal year which has just begun Army at present contains sixty regiments, and || cratic administration that afflicted the counthe appropriations are as follows:

yet the whole appropriation asked for by Gen. || try; And I assert further, and I call both politExecutive, legislative, and judicial, embracing all eral Grant amounts to little more than thirty- | ical friend and foe to the witness stand in

Department salaries and expenses...... $17,480,000 00 three millions, a trifle more than half a million support of my declaration, that whenever and For the Army.

33,031.013 10 For the Navy.

17,500,000 00

per regiment each year in paper. In other wherever General Grant has been able to conWest Point Military Academy.

302,000 00 words, the Army under the peace establish- trol governmental expenditure, economy, in: Consular and diplomatic service. 1,206,434 00 ment of a Democratic administration imme. tegrity, fidelity, and rigid retrenchment and Post Office Department....

2,500,000 00 Indian bureau, treaties, &c................ 2,500,000 00

diately preceding the war cost per regiment reduction have been the unvarying result. Rivers and harbors..... 4,700,000 00

Consider further, Mr. Chairman, that while Collecting the revenue..

9,969,000 00

per regiment in paper under the peace estab- the Republican party has been providing the Sundry civil expenditures connected with the various Departments. 6,020,000 00

lishment as administered by General Grant. means for these expenditures, they have been Miscellaneous expenses of all kinds, in

The same scale of expenditure indulged in at the same time effecting immense reductions cluding cost of certain public build

under the administration of Buchanan would in the public debt and continually and largely ings thoughout the country, expenses of reconstruction, expense of closing

make our present Army cost over seventy mil- reducing taxation. Within the three years up Freedmen's Bureau, &c...

9,000,000 00 lions in gold or a hundred millions in paper; that have elapsed since the war closed and the Deficiencies of various kinds in the

and until the latter figure is exceeded the Dem- Army was mustered out, we have reduced the different appropriations.....

2,560,000 00

ocratic partisans of Buchanan can have no public debt between two and three hundred Making a total of............ .$106,818,447 10 147 10 | Sround ton charge thate Army expenses are

million dollars, and at each session of Congress, extravagant. When we look at the actual | while this reduction of the debt was going I differ in some items from the recent state- || amount spent for legitimate Army expenses, on, we have taken off millions upon millions of ment of the honorable chairman of Ways and we see good ground for the high compliment || taxation from the productive industry of the Means, for I think he included in the expenses bestowed by President Johnson when, a few || nation. At the first session of the Thirtyof this year a deficiency of thirteen million dol- months since, he publicly proclaimed “Gen: Ninth Congress, the first that convened after lars resulting from the Indian war of 1867; which eral Grant's judicious economy as the direct the close of the war, taxes were removed that amount was appropriated and spent last year cause of saving many millions to the Treas- had the preceding year yielded a revenue of and has no proper connection whatever with

With General Grant's election to the sixty million dollars, and at the second session the expenditures of the current fiscal year. Presidency and the final pacification of the of the same Congress forty-one millions more And he also includes, incorrectly I think, some southern States, our Army will at once be of taxes were promptly repealed. The Fortieth twenty-four million appropriations overlapping reduced and the expenditures of the War De- Congress has not been behind the Thirty-Ninth from the year which has closed to the present. partment will be brought to a point so incon: in this respect, for we have already repealed I say incorrectly, because this amount will be siderable as no longer to be felt as a burden to taxes that last year gave us a revenue of ninety offset by a similar amount which overlaps from the tax payer.

millions. And to-day the taxes of the Federal this year to the next, about the same amount The comparison in regard to naval expend- Government are so wisely adjusted, and colgoing over each year, and this from necessity | itures at the two periods I have named, are lected from such few sources that no man feels owing to the mode of disbursement. I have || equally suggestive and striking. For the four them burdensome, oppressive, or exacting. also made the amount for bounties ten millions years of Buchanan's administration the Navy, Demagogues may misrepresent and partisans less than the chairman estimates, because a by the official records, cost fifty-two million six may assail, but the people know and feel that large proportion which he includes in this hundred and forty-five thousand nine hundred to-day the taxes levied by the Federal Govern. year will necessarily be paid in the ensuing and ninety-eight dollars and eighty-nine cents- ment are not an oppression to the individual year, when it is hoped the whole matter will be showing an average of more than thirteen mil- and not a hinderance to the development of the closed, the last soldier honorably paid off, and lions per annum in gold coin. With a much industrial resources of the land. the Treasury relieved from further obligation in larger Navy, and with the disadvantage of paper The history of the Republican party, Mr. that direction.

money and high prices, our appropriations this Chairman, is indeed a proud record. InheritAdding together these ordinary expenditures, year are a trifle under eighteen millions. Tak. ing a bankrupt Treasury, a dishonored credit, as I have above, the sum total is found to be ing the difference in the size of the Navy at and a gigantic rebellion from the traitorous one hundred and six million eight hundred and the two periods and the disparity between gold Administration which preceded their advent to eighteen thousand four hundred and forty- | and paper and we should be authorized, if we power in 1861, the Republicans heroically and seven dollars. If Congress can be accused of followed the Buchanan standard of expend. || successfully grappled with and conquered all extravagance, the accusation must be made iture, in appropriating well nigh forty millions these obstacles to the life and progress of the good on these figures, or else abandoned, for for the year's service. These facts are cer- nation. They replenished the Treasury; they the other expenditures, as I have already re- tainly suggestive and instructive.

redeemed our credit; they subdued the mightiest peated, lie without the pale of congressional In our Post Office expenditures, as compared | rebellion that ever confronted civil power since discretion or control. A clear estimate of the with those of the Democratic regime, the differ. Governments were instituted among men

n; character of these expenditures may be gath- ence is, if anything, more striking than in the || they struck the shackles from four millions of ered by comparing them with the outlays in- relative expenses of the Army and Navy. Be. human beings, and gave them every civil right curred under the last Democratic administra- sides using up all the postal receipts, the Post under the Constitution and laws. And while tion. For example, in 1857-58 the same class Office Department for the three last years of accomplishing these herculean tasks, the Reof expenses in Buchanan's administration were Buchanan's administration made drafts on the publican party administered the Government over seventy million dollars in gold, whereas Treasury to the amount of over five millions a so wisely that prosperity has been all the time the one hundred and six million eight hundred year, in one year running up to nearly seven abroad in the land; great business enterprises and eighteen thousand four hundred and forty- | millions. During the whole time the Republic | have been undertaken and successfully proseseven dollars above named are in paper. It ans have been in power, the drafts on the Treas-cuted; factories have been built; the forest must be observed, moreover, that in 1857-58 ury for the support of the postal service have subdued; farms brought under cultivation ; the population of this country was under thirty | not averaged two million dollars per annum, and navigable rivers improved ; thousands of miles millions, whereas to-day it is well nigh forty with this moderate expenditure we have been of railway constructed; the continent spanned millions. Adding forty per cent. premium on enabled to carry on the immense mail service in il by telegraph wires; the two oceans well nigh

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connected by a road of iron ; the emigrant protecied on the remotest frontier; Territories carved out of the wilderness domain; and new States of promise and power added to the national Union.

What other party in the history of this country ever confronted such difficulties? What oiher party ever gained such victories ? But great as its achievements have been, its work is not yet finished. Out of the fierce conflicts of the recent past, conflicts indeed still raging, order and harmony, conciliation and friendship, are yet to be evoked ; not, indeed, by unwise concession and timid compromise, but by that firm policy which is based on Right, and under the leadership of one, who, so terribly earnest in war, is yet to-day the embodiment of peace, the conservator of public justice, the hope of the loyal millions !

The CHAIRMAN. All general debate is now closed.

Mr. RANDALL. I want to say that there is no truth in the remark of the gentleman from Maine [Mr. BLAINE] that the Republican party put down the rebellion. Had not the Democrats shouldered their muskets and gone into the ranks the rebellion would never have been put down.

The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RandalL] is not in order.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move pro forma to amend the first amendment of the Senate, my object being to say that the Senate has made two hundred and twenty-seven amendments to this bill. The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence about fifty of the amendments and non-concurrence in the remainder, so that they may go to a committee of conference for adjustment. I withdraw my pro forma amendment.

The amendments of the Senate were read. First amendment: On page 3, after the word "dollars," in line fortyfour, insert,"clerk to Committee on Appropriations, $2,220."

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in. Second amendment: On page 3, in line fifty-two, strike out "$864"and insert"$1,000;” so that the clause will read: One special policeman, $1,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in. Third amendment: In the paragraph for the compensation of the clerks, &c. of the Senate, make the total $100,920 80, instead of $98,701,

The Committee on Appropriations recommend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in.
Fourth amendment:
Strike out"twenty-five" and insert "ten;" so the
paragraph will read:

For contingent expenses of the Senate, namely;
For stationery, $10,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in. Fifth amendment: Strike out the words "For newspapers, $5,000,” and in lieu thereof insert the following:

For newspapers and stationery for seventy-four Senators, to the amount of $125 each, $9,250.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in. Sixth amendment: Strike out "second" and insort "third;" so the paragraph will read:

For reporting and printing the proceedings in the Daily Globe for the third session of the Fortieth Congress, $15,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in. Seventh and eighth amendments: Strike out "three thousand" and insert "fifteen hundred," and strikeout fifteen" and insert "ten;" so the paragrapb will read:

For paying the publishers of the Congressional Globe and Appendix, according to the number of

copies taken, one cent for every five pages exceeding Sixteenth amnendınent: fifteen hundred, including the indexes and the laws

Strike out the following: of the United States, $10,000,

For newspapers, $12,500. The Committee on Appropriations recom

And insert in lieu thereof the following: 'mend concurrence.

Forstationery and newspapers for two hundred and

fifty inembers and delegates, to the amount of $1:35 The amendments were concurred in.

each, $31,250. Ninth amendment:

The Committee on Appropriations recomStrike out “$3,500" and insert "$1,000;" so the par

mend concurrence. agraph will read:

The amendment was concurred in. For packing boxes for Senators, $1,000.

Seventeenth amendment: The Committee on Appropriations recom

Strike out "$16,000" and insert "$6,720;" so that mnend concurrence.

it will read: The amendment was concurred in.

For twenty-five pages and three temporary mail

boys, $6,720. Tenth amendment:

The Committee on Appropriations recomStrike out "$11,520” and insert "$6,520;" 80 the

mend concurrence. paragraph under the head of the House of Representatives will read:

The amendment was concurred in. Twelve messengers during the session, at the rate of $1,440 per annum, $6,520.

Eighteenth amendment: The Committee on Appropriations recom•

Strike out "thirty" and insert "fifteen;" so that

it will read: mend concurrence.

For stationery $15,000. The amendment was concurred in.

The Committee on Appropriations recomEleventh amendment:

mend non-concurrence. Strike out the following:

The amendment was non-concurred in. Capitol police:

Nineteenth amendment:
For the Capitol police, $61,000.
And in lieu thereof insert:

After the word “dollars" insert the following: For one captain, $2,088; two lieutenants, at $1,800 Provided, That the salary of the foreman of bindeach, $3,600: thirty privates, at $1,584 each, $47,520;

ing in the Government Printing Office shall heretwelve watchmen, at $1.000 each. $12,000; ono super

after be $1.800 per annum. intendent in the crypt. $1,440; uniforms. $1,600; con- The Committee on Appropriations recom. tingent expenses, $500; making in all, $71,748; one half to be paid into the contingent fund of the Sen

mend non-concurrence. ate, and the other half into the contingent fund of The amendment was non-concurred in. the House of Representativos.

Twentieth and twenty-first amendments: The Committee on Appropriations recom- Strike out “four" and insert "throc;" strike out non-concurrence.

"$3,456" and insert "$2,592;" so that it will read:

For three laborers, at $861 each, $2,592. ment of the Senate with an amendment. I

The Committee on Appropriations recommove to strike out the words 66 one superin. || mend concurrence. tendent in the crypt, $1,440," and to insert in

The amendments were concurred in. lieu thereof the following:

Twenty-second and twenty-third amendFor thirteen watchmon, including the superin

ments : tendent in the crypt, at $1,400 each, $18,200.

Strike out “two” and insert "three;'' strike out

"$2.850” and insert “$1,3:0;" so that it will read: Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Let this

For three assistant librarians, at $1,440 each, be non-concurred in by the House, and let it || 84,320. go to a committee of conference, and they The Committee on Appropriations recomwill have control of the whole matter. I think | mend concurrence. it likely his amendment is a good one. The Tbe amendments were concurred in. section was non-concurred in to be sent to the

Twenty-fourth and twenty-fifth amendments: committee of conference, in order that it may

Striko out “three" and insert "five;" strike out be made more perfect.

"three" and insert "four;" so that it will read: Mr. COBB. " I hope, then, that the gentle. For Botanic Garden, grading, draining, procuring man from Illinois will give my amendment

manure, tools, fuel, and repairs, and purchasing his attention.

trees and shrubs, under the direction of the Library

Committee of Congress, $5,100. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I do not

The committee recommend concurrence. know that I will be on the cominittee of con

The amendments were concurred in. ference. I have no doubt it will be made more satisfactory in the committee of conference.

Twenty-sixth and twenty-seventh amendThe amendment to the amendment was

ments : rejected.

Strike out seven" and insert "eleven;" strike The Senate amendment was non-concurred in.

out “$374 96" and insert"$296;" so that it will read:

For pay of superintendent and assistants in Botanic Twelfth amendment:

Garden and Greenhouses, under the direction of the Strike out "three thousand” and insert "fifteen

Library Committee of Congress, $11,296. hundred;" so the paragraph will read: For paying the publishers of the Congressional | mend concurrence.

The Committee on Appropriations recomGlobe and Appendix, according to the number of copies taken, one cent for every five pages exceeding

The amendments were concurred in. fifteen hundred, including the indexes and the laws of the United States, $9,500.

Twenty-eighth amendment: The Committee on Appropriations recom

Insert the following:

For the expenses of exchanging public documents mend concurrence.

for the publications of foreign Governments, as proThe amendment was concurred in.

vided by resolution approved March 2, 1867, $1,00. Thirteenth amendment:

The Committee on Appropriations recomStrike out "fifty" and insert " forty-two;" so that

mend concurrence. it will read:

The amendment was concurred in.
For folding documents, including materials, $42,000.
The Committee on Appropriations recom-

Twenty-ninth amendinent:

Strike out the following proviso: mend non-concurrence.

Provided, That no judgment of said court for any The amendment was non-concurred in. sum exceeding $5,000 shall be paid out of this apFourteenth amendment:

propriation.

The Committee on Appropriations recomStrike out “twelve" and insert "five;" so that it will read:

mend concurrence. For laborers, $5,000.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I hore The Committee on Appropriations recom- the committee will not concur in that amendmend non-concurrence.

ment of the Senate. The House inserted this The amendment was non-concurred in. proviso, and if it is stricken out some judg. Fifteenth amendment:

ment will take the whole amount of the Strike out "seventy" and insert “fifty;" so that it

$100,000 appropriated for these judgments in will read:

the Coirt of Claims, and there will be no For miscellaneous items, $50,000.

money left for small claimants. The Committee on Appropriations recom- Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Mr. Chair. mend non-concurrence.

man, it falls to my lot to represent the Comı The amendment was non-concurred in. mittee on Appropriations on this question.

The Committee on Appropriations thought that pose to go upon the stealing principle, it may not every year appropriate the money—the when a claimant liad been through the Court be possible that we can commit petty larceny | placing in the Treasury of the funds necessary of Claims, established his loyalty, established and get along in that way for some years. to pay the judgments of the court when renthe justice of his claim, and got a judgment, it When this court of claims was originally estab- dered. would not be right then to say that he should | lished, Congress provided that the judgments Mr. KELSEY. We by this bill authorize not have that judgment paid, whatever might of that court should be reported to Congress, the placing the sum of $100,000 for this purbe the size of the judgment. The justice of a who made appropriations or not to satisfy those posejudgment does not depend upon its size, and judgments as they chose. But that was found Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I do not if we undertake to restrict payments to $5,000, to be a very bad plan. Congress then passed refer to this bill, but to a former law. there is no reason why we should not restrict a law making the findings of the Court of Mr. KELSEY. We authorize the approit to $3,000, $2,000, or $1,000. We must Claims conclusive. And now Congress every priation of $100,000 for the purpose of paying leave it to the court, if we leave anything to year makes appropriations, not extravagant, these creditors whose claims are not large; them, to say what shall be the amount of the of what is supposed may be necessary to satisfy

and there is this reason for it: the man who judgment, and after that judgment has been the judgments of the Court of Claims against has been put to the expense of establishing his found by the court which we have established the United States. This year we have put the claim, and has obtained a judgment in the Court then it is not right and proper that a claimant amount very low, at $100,000. Now, what is of Claims for $5,000 or less, has been put to who has struggled through and established the use of a Court of Claims, or of providing all the expense that he can bear in obtaining the justice of his claim should be shut off. by law that the findings of that court shall be his claim from the Government. Not so with The Committee on Appropriations, therefore, conclusive, if the amount is to be frittered the man whose claim reaches hundreds of recommend that the amendment shall be con- away, and $5,000 paid to one, and $5,000 to thousands of dollars; and this court has juriscurred in, and whoever shall vote for concur- another, &c., the judgment of the court still diction of claims to an unlimited amount. But rence will vote in accordance with the unani- standing, to run for twenty years it may be? I suppose that the House, in passing the bill mous report of the committee of the Senate, || I can see no kind of judgment-I will not in its original form, intended to say that while the action of the Senate and the report of use a harder term than that I can see no they were willing that these small judgments the Committee on Appropriations-I will not kind of judgment in such conduct. The Court should be paid when rendered by the court, say how nearly unanimous, because I am not of Claims find judgments, and find them con- they were not willing to give the court the allowed to say it.

clusively. Instead of asking the claimants to control of the funds to pay these large judg. Mr. PETERS. I would ask the gentleman wait until Congress meets at another session, ments until Congress had reviewed and passed whether the sum appropriated was not pre- we put into the hands of the Treasurer a cer- upon that question. That was the law but a sumed by the committee to be sufficient to tain amount to be paid to them after they have few years ago, when all judgments of that cover large and small judgments ?

gone through all the expense of collecting in court had to be reported to this House that Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. That is vacation time. Is there anything but what is appropriations miglāt be made, if Congress saw what we meant to do, sir.

decent and proper in that? Is there anything fit, for their payment. I think that that is the Mr. SPALDING. I merely wish to remark but what is just in it? I cannot possibly see proper course to be pursued now with respect that if we limit the sum to be paid out of this why this two-penny system should be adopted. to these large judgments. But such a rule appropriation to $5,000 we virtually limit the It reminds me of a man I once heard of, about would operate oppressively upon the men who jurisdiction of the Court of Claims to $5,000. whom it was said that if he owed a dollar he obtain small judgments against the Govern No member of this committee wishes to do would not pay it all at once, but in ten install- ment. For these reasons, Mr. Chairman, I that. We do not expect to cut down the juris- ments; that he would pay ten cents at one time, think we ought to adhere to the bill as origindiction of the Court of Claims to $5,000. And and then ride seven miles the next day to pay | ally passed by the House, that being the best if not, why should we limit the payments of another ten cents, and so on, because he did || shape in which we can put this matter for promoney which they adjudicate to be due to not want to pay out too much at once. This tecting the interests both of the Government within that sum? It seemed to the majority of is very much like the practice of that old uncle and of the suitors in the court. the Committee on Appropriations that there of mine, old uncle Abel. I hope, therefore, Mr. ROSS. I rise to oppose the amend. was no propriety in it at all, and we therefore that no such system as this will be adopted, ment of the gentleman from New York, [Vx. recommend concurrence in the amendment of but that we will pay what we owe.

KELSEY.] I think the Senate has evinced good the Senate.

Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I wish sense in striking out this provision. When we Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move to add a single further suggestion which has have established a court for the purpose of to amend the amendment by striking out the occurred to me, and to which I do not see the passing upon these claims there appears to be last word, for the purpose of calling the atten

The House some three years ago a propriety in having its judgments carried out. tion of the committee to the facts of the case. adopted an amendment to an appropriation If the court is unworthy of our confidence it The Committee on Appropriations and the bill, in which the Senate concurred, to the should be abolished and some better tribunal House of Representatives originally agreed to effect that no judgment of the Court of Claims established. I know of no reason why a person this proposition unanimously. They appropri- || should be paid until it was revised by the Secre- || having a large claim against the Government ated $100,000 for the payment of judgments || tary of the Treasury. Thereupon the Supreme || is not entitled to have that claim paid as well of the Court of Claims, and the effect of this Court insisted that they would not entertain as a man having a small claim. I think there provision was to say that the $100,000 should any appeal from the Court of Claims, because is a propriety in leaving this matter with the not be gobbled up by any one man who had a there was a restriction upon the judgment of court and paying the ju ments which they great judgment, but should be divided among the court, and they did not intend to adjudicate | render. But I can see very well that this does men who had smaller judgments, under $5,000. upon cases of appeal wbich, when they had not suit the theory of my colleague, [Mr. WASHI think it is just and right and proper that we given their final judgment, somebody else was BURNE, of Illinois.] His theory is to hoard all should non-concur in the amendment of the to revise; and they dismissed all appeals upon the Government funds, and convert them into Senate.

that ground at that time. It therefore became gold for the purpose of paying the bondholders, Mr. INGERSOLL. I rise to oppose the nece sary, at the very next session, to repeal while the people who have debts due from the amendment. This proposition strikes me as that law. And I am not at all certain but what Government may wait. If men have furnished simply a stay-law in favor of the United States. we are going to get into a similar difficulty by supplies to the Government during the progress It is a confession that the United States is not putting this restriction upon the judgment of of the war to put down the rebellion, and have able to pay its just judgments or its creditors, the Court of Claims.

been kept out of their money for four or five provided we owe them over $5,000 each. A Mr. LOAN. I desire to ask the gentleman years, the gentleman's theory--and I suppose creditor who presses his demands through this if the Committee on Appropriations have so that of his candidate-is to say to such men, court to judgment can have his money pro- far investigated this matter as to satisfy them- “Stand back, you who have claims against the vided the Government does not owe him over selves that $100,000 will be sufficient to pay Government; we have got to convert all our $5,000, but not otherwise. By this arbitrary all the judgments of the Court of Claims dur- means into gold for the purpose of paying the rule the small creditor will have his pay, while | ing the coming year?

bondholders, and in the mean time we will draw the man who credited the Government to the Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. · Yes, sir; in the currency; we will subject to financial extent of twenty, fifty, or one hundred thou- this is expected to be enough, with the balance pressure the poor people of the country; we sand dollars, perhaps with his all, shall have that still remains from former appropriations. will hoard our gold as much as we can, that we nothing. Is there any justice in this? Is there Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I with- may turn it into the hands of the bankers and any honor in it? Is there any equity in it? draw the amendment to the amendment. the bondholders." That appears to be the Is there any common sense in it? I cannot Mr. KELSEY. I move to strike out $5,000 | theory of my colleague. All the honest claims see that there is, and I shall vote to concur and insert $4,000. There is a peculiar pro- of men who have been knocking at the doors with the Senate amendment in striking out this || priety in placing funds at the disposal of this of Congress for years receive uniformly the proviso.

Court of Claims to pay the small creditors of opposition of my colleague; but whenever Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I withdraw the Government who establish their claims in there is anything that favors the bondholders my amendment.

that court. But Congress has never been will- or the bankers, whenever there is anything that Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I renew ing to give that court unlimited jurisdiction of tends to withdraw the people's money from cirthe amendment to the amendment, for the funds to pay all the large judgments that may culation and to impair their ability to pay the purpose of saying that I cannot see what any be obtained there.

onerous taxes which are bearing them down, body can expect to gain by striking out this Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. Let me my colleague is for it. I am very sorry that proviso: that is, if we mean to pay our debts. say that so far as the jurisdiction of the court he is running his presidential candidate into If we do not mean to pay our debts, but pro- goes Congress has now authorized – it does

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shall have passed by we shall have a candidate to whom the people can look for help in this time of emergency.

Mr. KELSEY. I withdraw my amendment.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I renew the amendment. I simply wish to say in reply to my colleague [Mr. Ross) that I do not propose to enter into the question which he has discussed. My position is sustained by my constituents, while his constituents, I believe, have thrown him overboard. [Laughter.] I withdraw the amendment.

On concurring in the amendment of the Senate, there were-ayes 26, noes 23; no quorum voting.

The CHAIRMAN, under the rules, ordered tellers; and appointed Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois, and Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts.

The committee divided ; and the tellers reported--ayes fifty-two, noes not counted.

So the amendment was concurred in.
Thirtieth amendment:
On page 13 strike out the following:

For compensation to the Private Secretary, assistant secretary, short-hand writer, clerk of pardons, three clerks of fourth class, steward, and messenger of the President of the United Statos, $18,800.

And insert in lieu thereof the following: For compensation to the Private Secretary, one clerk of class four, steward, and messenger of the President of the United States, eight $8,200: Provided. Chat so much of the fourth section of the act of July 23, 1865, making appropriation for legislative, executive, and judicial expenses of the Government for tbe year ending June 30, 1867, as authorizes the President of the United States to appoint an assistant secretary, a short-band writer, a clerk of pardons, and two clerks of the fourth class is hereby repealed.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in.
Thirty-first amendment:
Strike out “$538" and insert "$720;" so the para-
Craph will read:

For componsation to the laborer in charge of the water-closets in the Capitol, $720.

The Committee on Appropriations recominend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in.
Thirty-second amendment:
Strike out $16,090” and insert "$19,296 ;" so the
paragraph will read as follows:

For compensation of a foreman and twenty-one laborers einployed in the public grounds, $19,296.

The Committee on Appropriations recom. mend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in.
Thirty-third amendment:
Strike out "nino" and insert "eight;" so tho para-
graph will read:

For compensation of two watchmen at the President's House, $1,800.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in.
Thirty-fourth amendment:
Strike out $720" and insert "$1,000;" so the par-
agraph will read:

For compensation of the doorkeeper at tho President's Houso, $1,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in.
Thirty-fifth amendment:
Strike out the following:

For compensation of assistant doorkeeper at the
President's House, $720.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in.
Thirty-sixth amendment:
Strike out the following:

For compensation of one night watchman at the public stables and carpenter's shops south of the Capitol, $1,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend concurrence.

The amendment was concurred in.
Thirty-seventh amendment:
Strike out "$3,600" and insert "$5,000;" so the
paragraph will read:

For compensation of five watchmen in reservation
No. 2, $5,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in.

Thirty-eighth amendment:

Forty-eighth amendment:
Strike out "fivo," and insert “seven;" so the para- Strikeout “six" and insert "fifteen;" so that it will
graph will read:

road, "fifteen clerks of class one.
For compensation of draw-keepers at the Potomac
bridge, and for fuel, oil, and lamps, $7,000.

The Committee on Appropriations recom

mend non-concurrence.
The Conimittee on Appropriations recom-
mend non-concurrence.

The amendment was non-concurred in.
The amendment was non-concurred in. Forty-ninth amendment:

Striko out “$66,004" and insert "$100,008."
Thirty-ninth amendment.
Striko out “$720" and insert "$864;" so the para-

The committee recommend non-concurrence. graph will read :

The amendment was non-concurred in.
For compensation of furnace-keeper under the old
Ilall of the House of Representatives, $861.

Fiftieth amendment:

After the word "dollars" insert "for one chief clerk, The Committee on Appropriations recom- $2,000.” mend non-concurrence.

The Committee on Appropriations recomMr. FARNSWORTH, I understand the

mend non-concurrence. furnace-keeper under the House of Represent

The amendment was non-concurred in. atives does not get as much pay as the one under the Senate. I should like to know how

Fifty-first amendment: that is. Our employés should receive as much

Strike out the words “declared to continue" and

insert "continued;" so that it will read, "is hereby as the employés of the Senate.

continued in force until July 1, 1869." Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. We recom.

The Committee on Appropriations recommend non-concurrence in order to inquire in

mend concurrence. relation to the compensation of the employés

The amendment was concurred in. of the two Houses.

Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. We have Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The next a deficiency appropriation bill, which is the amendments from fifty-two to sixty-six, incluproper place for equalizing all those salaries. sive, are all of the same character; and the

The amendment was non-concurred in. Committee on Appropriations recommend non-
Fortieth amendment:

concurrence. I hope there will be no objecInsert: "and Supreme Court room;" so the para

tion to acting upon them in gross, according to graph will read :

the recommendation of the committee. They For compensation of the person in charge of the relate to the increase of clerks. heating apparatus of the Library of Congress and No objection being made, the following Supreme Court room, $1,000.

amendments, in which the Committee on ApThe Committee on Appropriations recom- propriations recommended non-concurrence, mend concurrence.

were considered in gross :
The amendment was concurred in.

Fifty-second amendment:
Forty-first amendment :

Insert "six clerks of class four."
Insert: “Second Assistant Secretary of State and Fifty-third amendment:
examiner of claims :" so it will read :
Department of State:

Strike out the words "in all, $32,940," and insert
For compensation of the Secretary of State, Seo-

the words and for temporary clerks $9,000, in all, ond Assistant Secretary of State, and examiner of

$52,700." claims, &c.

Fifty-fourth amendment:
The Committee on Appropriations recom- Strike out "seven" and insert "twelve;" so as to
mend concurrence.

read, “twelve clerks of class four."
Mr. FARNSWORTH. Does this authorize Fifty-fifth amendment:
a Second Assistant Secretary of State ?

Strike out "fourteen” and insert "twenty;" 80 as
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The Com- to read, "twenty clerks of class throe."
mittee on Appropriations refused to appropri-

Fifty-sixth amendment: ate for this officer and this examiner of claims, Strike out "fifteen "and insert “twenty-eight;" s0 but the Senate put it in. The committee did

as to read, "twenty-eight clerks of class iwo.
not think there was any necessity for this Fifty.seventh amendinent:
officer.

Sirikè out "six” and ingert "twenty-one;" so as
The amendment was non-concurred in. to read, "twenty-one clerks of class one.'
Forty-second and forty-third amendments :

Fifty-eight amendment:
Strike out "$57.380" and insert "$63,880," as the

Insert "twelve copyists."
appropriation for the compensation of the employés Fifty-ninth amendment:
of the State Department.

Striko out "$71,470" and insert "$137,000."
The Committee on Appropriations recom. Sixtieth amendment:
mend concurrence.

Insert "threo clerks of class four."
The amendinents were concurred in.

Sixty-first amendment:
Forty-fourth amendment:

Strike out "four" and insert "six;" so as to read,
Add the following:

"six clerks of class three."
Provided, That the third section of the act of August
18, 1856, entitled "An act to amen: an act entitled

Sixty-second amendment:
An act requiring foreign regulations of commerce to Strike out "seven "and insert“nine;"80 as to read,
be laid annually before Congress,' approved August "nine clerks of class two."
16, 1842, and for other purposes," be, and the same is
hereby, repealed.

Sixty-third amendment:
The Committee on Appropriations recom-

Strike out “$31,320” and insert “$42,700.” mend concurrence.

Sixty-fourth amendment:
The amendment was concurred in.

Str ke out "two" and insert "four;" 80 as to read,

"foui clerks of class four."
Forty-fifth amendment:
Under the head of “Treasury Department" striko

Strike out “five" and insert "six;" so as to read,
out "five" and insert eleven;" so it will read,
'cleven clerks of class four."

six clerks of class two," The Committee on Appropriations recom.

Sixty-sixth amendment: mend non-concurrence.

Strike out " $5,360" and insert "$9,360.” The amendment was non-concurred in.

In accordance with the recommendation of

the Committee on Appropriations, the fore. Forty-sixth amendment:

going amendments were non-concurred in.
*Striko out "eleven" and insert "twelve:" so that it
will read, "twelve clerks of class three."

Sixty-seventh amendment:
The Committee on Appropriations recom-

Strike out the following:

And the clause of the act of March 14, 1864, authormend non-concurrence.

izing fifteen clerks of class three, fifty clerks of class The amendment was non-concurred in. two, and one hundred and forty clerks of class one,

in the office of the Second Auditor of the Treasury, Forty-seventh amendment:

is hereby continued in forco until the 30th day of Striko out “six" and insert "fourteen;" so that it

June, 1869, and no longer.
will read, "fourteen clerks of class two.'

The Committee on Appropriations recom.
The committee recommend non-concurrence. mend concurrence.
The amendment was non-concurred in.

The amendment was concurred in.

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Sixty.eighth amendment:

between the House and the Senate; otherwise that is the idea. Now, I see no earthly necesInsert the following:

the committee of conference would find them sity for taking this amendment out of the or. Also one clerk of class four, four clerks of class selves tied up by a concurrence in this amend. || dinary course. Let it go with the rest to a two, four clerks of class one, one copyist, and two laborers, to be employed as a temporary force.

ment and a non-concurrence in others, and the committee of conference, to see if there is

necessary clerical force in the several Depart. any necessity for this increase. That is the The committee recommend non-concurrence.

ments could not be adjusted. That is why we course we have decided to pursue in regard to The amendinent was non-concurred in.

recommend what appears to be this wholesale the other bureaus of the Treasury, and I see Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The non-concurrence which has attracted the atten.

no reason for any different course being puramendments froin seventy to seventy-eight are tion of the gentleman from Tennessee.

sued here. I withdraw the amendment to the all of a like character, and I hope they will be Mr. BLAINE. I move to amend the amend. amendment. acted upon in gross.

ment by striking out the last word, and I do it Mr. BLAINE. I move to amend the amend. Mr. BLAINË, I desire to say that I hope for the purpose of saying a word in answer to ment by striking out the last three words. I the amendment No. 70 will be allowed to the very sensible question of the gentleman | desire to say that the money-order system was remain. There is an increase of expenses in from Tennessee, [Mr. MAYNARD,] as I think, put in operation without any clerical force to the money order office of the Post Office De- in reference to this particular paragraph, Í carry it out. They borrowed clerks from partment, and in the last year there has been can give a more specific answer than was given other bureaus. The system was an experi. a net revenue to the Government of $53,753. by my friend from Massachusetts, (Mr. But. ment; it was entered upon with a great deal Money orders were given last year to the amount LER.] The Senate amended the paragraph in of distrust. Being an experiment no permaof $15,500,000. The number of money orders the manner that has been read, and the Com- nent provision was made for it. It has grown were eight thousand. Now, there is great mittee on Appropriations non-concurred in to be a success. But up to this time it has necessity for an increase of clerks in conse- their amendments in gross. I received from been carried on with a sort of borrowed force, quence of the large amount of business done the Sixth Auditor of the Treasury some inqui. so to speak. This proposition is to provide in that branch, especially as that branch will ries about this matter, and I gave him some the requisite force to carry on the system, as it pay for itself and a great deal more.

memoranda, and this morning he addressed has proved to be absolutely a source of revMr. SPALDING. I ask to have these me a note, to be laid before the committee, in enue to the Government. It is merely proamendments considered in their order. which he says:

posed to provide the necessary clerks-and if Mr. BLAINE. I move to concur in amend

“From the tenor of your note to Mr. McGrew I fear || the business continues to increase in future ment No. 70. there is still some inisconception in reference to the

probably more will be necessary hereafter-to The CHAIRMAN. The committee have not

Senate amendments relating to this office. We have
asked for no increase of force, but simply that those

be paid out of the receipts of the bureau. reached that yet.

clerks, twenty-six in number, that have been trans- Now, I care nothing at all whether the amendSixty-ninth amendment:

ferred from other offices and assigned to duty here, ment of the Senate be concurred in or whether

should be placed permanently upon our roll. So far Strike out "$49,920” and insert"$64,220.” from being an extra charge on the Treasury it is a

it be sent to the committee of conference. The Committee on Appropriations recom:

positive reduction of expense to the extent of the But as the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Spald.

whole twenty-six clerks, the business upon which mend non-concurrence.

ING] has so captiously explained my motion, I they are engaged, the money-order system, producing The amendment was non-concurred in. a net income more than sufficient to defray the whole

did desire that the grounds upon which I made charge. In reference to this point, I beg to refer to it should be distinctly understood. Seventieth amendment:

the accompanying statement of Mr. Lynch, the very Mr. PAINE. I would inquire of the genIn line four hundred and eighty-seven strike out able clerk in charge of that branch.”

tleman if these borrowed clerks are paid under the word "seven" and insert in lieu thereof "nine;" The following is the statement of Mr. Lynch: so that the clause will read:

some other appropriation? If they are from For compensation of the Auditor of the Treasury, Whole number of orders issued in 1868. 803,846 some other bureau it is not impossible that in for the Post Office Department, chief clerk, nine clerks Whole nuinber of orders issued in 1866. 243,709 some other part of the bill there is an approof class four, (additional to one clerk of class four as disbursing clerk.)

Increase....................

560,137 || priation to cover them. The Committee on Appropriations recom

Mr. BLAINE. We have cut down enorAmount received for orders issued in mend non-concurrence.

mously in some other parts of the bill. 1868.

$15,555,327 74 The amendment was non-concurred in.

Mr. PAINE. If the gentleman informs me Amount received for orders issued in 1866.......

3,977,259 28 that the appropriation for these clerks has been Seventy-first amendment:

cut out from its proper place, so that they will In line four hundred and eighty-nine strike out

Increase......

$11,578,068 46

not be paid upon the rolls of the bureau to "twenty-four" and insert "forty;" so that the clause will read:

Amount fees received in 1868.

$117,784 '98 | which they properly belong, then there may bo Forty clerks of class three.

Amount fees received in 1866..

35,799 98 some propriety in making an appropriation for The Committee on Appropriations recom- Increase......

$81,985 00

them in this place. But if it be true that they mend non-concurrence.

still stand on the rolls of the bureaus to which The amendment was non-concurred in.

Amount of expenses allowed in 1868. $63,940 47 || they properly belong, then it would hardly be

Amount of expenses allowed in 1866. 28,664 27 Seventy-second amendment:

proper for us to double the appropriation for

Increase .... Strike out the words "four of them transferred from

$35,276 20

their payment. Third Auditor's office."

[Here the hammer fell.] Net revenue accrued in 1868....

$53,844 51

Mr. BLAINE. I withdraw the amendment The Committee on Appropriations recom- Net revenue accrued in 1866.

to the amendment. mend non-concurrence.

Increase

$53,753 69 Mr. MAYNARD. I move to amend the Mr. MAYNARD, I dislike this mode of

amendment of the Senate, so as to increase legislation. It cannot be that all these amend- So that this office a great deal more than || the number of clerks by one. In my opinion ments are wrong. There ought to be some pays for the salaries of the clerks necessary to the clerical force at present in the several discrimination exercised. This mode of pro

carry

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on, and all they wish is that the House Departments is numerically too great, but the ceeding simply throws the whole legislation on shall concur with the Senate in making these clerical ability is not too great. If we had matters of this kind into the hands of a com- clerks a part of their permanent working force. fewer in number of men, and more ability and mittee of conference. That is the practical Mr. SPALDING. I cannot for the life of || capacity than a great many of them possess, effect of it. It does seem to me that the Com- me see the force of the argument of the gen- and would pay them accordingly, my opinion mittee on Appropriations might be able to give tleman from Maine, [Mr. BLAINE.] Because || is that the clerical service in the several De. us a reason why we should reject an amend. the money order service brings in a slight rev. partments would be much better, and would ment, or why we should not reject it.

enue into the postal department therefore be more efficiently performed than it is now. wholesale proceeding of this kind, and to bolster you must increase the number of clerks. The condition in which this bill is presented it up by telling us that the committee of con Mr. BLAINE. Not at all; no increase is || leaves us no alternative but to accept the amendference can fix it, is a mode of disposing of it asked for.

ment of the Senate or to reject it as recomwhich I do not think is either very wise or Mr. SPALDING. That is the argument. mended by the Committee on Appropriations,

Now there is an increase of deficiencies in and when the bill goes to a committee of conMr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I will other branches of the Post Office Department, ference let them dispose of it as they may think state to the committee, for the satisfaction of and therefore this increase of revenue should || best under all the circumstances. As, howthe gentleman, exactly why many of these go to make up for that deficiency as far as it ever, we have frequently beretofore had the amendments were non-concurred in, while goes. The only reason why these clerks are subject of clerical compensation before us when some of them, perhaps, would have been con. to be made permanent in this Auditor's office | there was no opportunity to debate it, I take curred in. They all refer to the number of of the Post Office Department is that there is || this occasion to say that I think it would be clerks to be employed in the various branches some additional profit, from year to year, as more just to the employés of the Governof the Departments, and in order that the com- the business increases, upon the postal-order | ment, as well as more conducive to the eflimittee of conference might have the whole system ;, that is the whole argument. Now, ciency of the public service, if the number of subject under their control so that they could | if there be anything in that argument, then we clerks were reduced and their compensation allow some clerks to go in here and some to must increase the number of clerks from day || increased. We should thereby get more work

for the same amount of money, and the emthe best of the public service, after full dis- to year, as the money increases that is received Hployés in the several Departments would be cussion the committee unanimously came to in the money order branch of the service. much better compensated than they are now. the conclusion that it was best to non-concur

Mr. ROSŠ. So as to use it up.

I yield to the gentleman from Illinois, [Mr. in all, so that these matters could be arranged Mr. SPALDING. So as to consume it all; FARNSWORTA.]

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