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Mr. WASHBURSE, of Dg3;
res se itself into Committee
Su the rules were suspended ease accordingis resolved itsel som
of the Whole on the state of Lais Wilsox, of lows, in the chazip
to the consideration of ide un ments to the bisi (E. R. Nas appropriations for the leader ! and judicial expenses of te b*** the rear ending the Buch of these
Hr. SPALDING. I pore laid ande. Hy object is a mittee take up two binis making
kur tienerolens institutions ia 035. Į The motion was not agreed a
e menial expenditures. A rendelet
try. The question is cae OPDIESE on the war debt and the role which are not dis retiaan
on the one hand io dersi
desire to have considered firsbeeren
lion six hundred and seventy-eight thousand | gold, to bring the expenditures of the two eras the interior of the continent and to the shores of to the legislative appropriaon ES: jsirable ibe bill should 3) ta
seventy-eight dollars and fifty cents. The pen to the same standard, and we find the outlays of the Pacific, through all our remote Territories conference as early as possible
sion-roll for the year will be thirty million three Buchanan were at the rate of over ninety-eight and sparsely peopled sections, and have also Mr. SPALDING. Åre there is no
bundred and fifty thousand dollars, and the millions in paper to-day. To this add one third | been able to maintain a superb line of mail
bounties due and payable will require about for increase of population, and we find the steamers from San Francisco to Hong Kong and ali popriation bitia pending in loeng thirty million dollars. These three items, which Buchanan expenditures, adjusted to the scale from New York to Rio Janeiro, none of which the whole?
are not discretionary, amount to the large of to-day, would amount to one hundred and extraordinary enterprises and expenditures The SPEAKER. There are: bete
aggregate of nearly one hundred and ninety | thirty million dollars for the same items that were levied on the Department during Buchannot general appropriation bill
million dollars, well nigh two thirds of our we are paying less than one hundred and seven an's administration. frority in Commit:ee of the WA total outlay for the fiscal year upon which we millions. And in this calculation I have said These comparisons might be quite indefinitely wher business.
bave just entered. The fact that so large a nothing about the increased military and naval continued, exhibiting in each item the same Mr. SPALDING. Bat I hadece proportion of our expenditure is the result of force of the present day, which adds immensely result, and demonstrating with mathematical ing with the chairman of the Cases
the war, and is unavoidable unless we repudiate to the account in favor of present economy. certainty that when we take into account the Agropriations that he would gore ou
our obligations to our public creditors and our This calculation, stated in these general vast increase of population and the rapid and tuune Wy to be taken op.
heroic soldiers, cannot be too often repeated terms, is far more striking and suggestive when || unprecedented development of our country The SPEAKER No wonders or too thoroughly impressed on the public | you come to examine details. The Army, for during the time the Republican party has been change the order of business in lamang
mind ; for it is idle to denounce these expend. | instance, cost during the four years of Buchan in power, and when we take into further account the Whole unless it is the understanding
itures as extravagant unless we are prepared | an's administration, by the official statement the fact that we have been all the while sub
to withhold them; and whoever proposes to committee itself or of the Home
of the Treasury Department, which I hold in | jected as a necessity of the war to the disadwithhold them proposes thereby to put the my hand, the large aggregate of $86,307,575 55, || vantage of high prices resulting from paper 1. LEGISLATIVE, ETC., APPEOPLY!
nation at the same time under the doubly dis making an average of well nigh twenty-two money; taking, I say, these facts into account, or: The SPEAKER. The question 1 : graceful stigma of repudiation and ingratitude. millions each year in gold.
And at that I assert and defy contradiction that large as motion of the gertiemsa fmm A If the Democratic party choose to assume that time the Army consisted in all of nineteen our expenditures have necessarily been they
when the House shall resoi te internet position it is welcome to all the glory of it. regiments ; so that each regiment cost consid have yet been on a scale of economy and ix mittee of the Whole all general de For the ordinary expenditures of Govern erably over a million each year in gold. The fidelity quite unknown during the last Demothe Senate amendments to the ment for the fiscal year which has just begun | Army at present contains sixty regiments, and
cratic administration that afflicted the coun!?, ative, and judicial appropriate the appropriations are as follows:
yet the whole appropriation asked for by Gen try. And I assert further, and I call both politi in twenty minutes.
Executive, legislative, and judicial, embracing all eral Grant amounts to little more than thirty- || ical friend and foe to the witness stand in
Department salaries and expenses......$17,480,000 00
three millions, a trifle more than half a million || support of my declaration, that whenever and
33,081,013 10 For the Navy...
per regiment each year in paper. In other wherever General Grant has been able to conWest Point Military Academy.
302,000 00 words, the Army under the peace establish trol governmental expenditure, economy, in. that the rules be suspended
Consular and diplomatic service..., 1,206,434 00 ment of a Democratic administration imme. tegrity, fidelity, and rigid retrenchment and
diately preceding the war cost per regiment | reduction have been the unvarying result. Rivers and harbors.......
4.700.000 00 largely more in gold than the Army now costs Consider further, Mr. Chairman, that while executive, and judicial appropriate Collecting the revenue..
per regiment in paper under the peace estab the Republican party has been providing the The motion was agterd 63.
Sundry civil expenditures connected
lishment as administered by General Grant. means for these expenditures, they have been Miscellaneous expenses of all kinds, in
The same scale of expenditure indulged in at the same time effecting immense reductions oluding cost of certain public build
under the administration of Buchanan would in the public debt and continually and largely ings thoughout the country, expenses of reconstruction, expense of closing make our present Army cost over seventy mil. || reducing taxation.
Within the three years up Freedmen's Bureau, &c.....
9,000,000 00 lions in gold or a hundred millions in paper; that have elapsed since the war closed and the Deficiencies of various kinds in the
and until the latter figure is exceeded the Dem- || Army was mustered out, we have reduced the difforent appropriations.....
ocratic partisans of Buchanan can have no public debt between two and three hundred Making a total of..........
$106,818,447 10 l ground to charge that Army expenses are million dollars, and at each session of Congress,
extravagant. When we look at the actual while this reduction of the debt was going I differ in some items from the recent state amount spent for legitimate Army expenses, on, we have taken off millions upon millions of ment of the honorable chairman of Ways and we see good ground for the high compliment taxation from the productive industry of the Means, for I think he included in the expenses bestowed by President Johnson when, a few nation. At the first session of the Thirtyof this year a deficiency of thirteen million dol months since, he publicly proclaimed “Gen. Ninth Congress, the first that convened after lars resulting from the Indian war of 1867; which eral Grant's judicious economy as the direct the close of the war, taxes were removed that amount was appropriated and spent last year cause of saving many millions to the Treas had the preceding year yielded a revenue of and has no proper connection whatever with ury." With General Grant's election to the sixty million dollars, and at the second session the expenditures of the current fiscal year. Presidency and the final pacification of the of the same Congress forty-one millions more And he also includes, incorrectly I think, some southern States, our Army will at once be of taxes were promptly repealed. The Fortieth twenty-four million appropriations overlapping reduced and the expenditures of the War De Congress has not been behind the Thirty-Ninth from the year which has closed to the present. partment will be brought to a point so incon. in this respect, for we have already repealed I say incorrectly, because this amount will be siderable as no longer to be felt as a burden to taxes that last year gave us a revenue of ninety offset by a similar amount which overlaps from the tax payer.
millions. And to-day the taxes of the Federal this
year to the next, about the same amount The comparison in regard to naval expend. || Government are so wisely adjusted, and colgoing over each year, and this from necessity itures at the two periods I have named, are lected from such few sources that no man feels owing to the mode of disbursement. I have equally suggestive and striking. For the four them burdensome, oppressive, or exacting. also made the amount for bounties ten millions years of Buchanan's administration the Navy, | Demagogues may misrepresent and partisans less than the chairman estimates, because all by the official records, cost fifty-two million six may assail, but the people know and feel that large proportion which he includes in this hundred and forty-five thousand nine hundred | to-day the taxes levied by the Federal Govern. year will necessarily be paid in the ensuing and ninety-eight dollars and eighty-vinecents ment are not an oppression to the individual year, when it is hoped the whole matter will be showing an average of more than thirteen mil and not a hinderance to the development of the closed, the last soldier honorably paid off, and lions per annum in gold coin. With a much industrial resources of the land. the Treasury relieved from further obligation in larger Navy, and with the disadvantage of paper The history of the Republican party, Mr. that direction.
money and high prices, our appropriations this Chairman, is indeed a proud record. InheritAdding together these ordinary expenditures, year are a trifle under eighteen millions. Tak- || ing a bankrupt Treasury, a dishonored credit, as I have above, the gum total is found to be ing the difference in the size of the Navy at and a gigantic rebellion from the traitorous one hundred and six million eight hundred and the two periods and the disparity between gold | Administration which preceded their advent to eighteen thousand four hundred and forty and paper and we should be authorized, if we power in 1861, the Republicans heroically and seven dollars. If Congress can be accused of
followed the Buchanan standard of expend successfully grappled with and conquered all extravagance, the accusation must be made iture, in appropriating well nigh forty millions these obstacles to the life and progress of the good on these figures, or else abandoned, for for the year's service. These facts are cer nation. They replenished the Treasury; they the other expenditures, as I have already re tainly suggestive and instructive.
redeemed our credit; they subdued the mightiest peated, lie without the pale of congressional In our Post Office expenditures, as compared rebellion that ever confronted civil power since discretion or control. A clear estimate of the with those of the Democratic regime, the differ. Governments were instituted among men; character of these expenditures may be gath ence is, if anything, more striking than in the | they struck the shackles from four millions or ered by comparing them with the outlays in relative expenses of the Army and Navy. Be human beings, and gave them every civil right curred under the last Democratic administra sides using up all the postal receipts, the Post under the Constitution and laws. And while tion. For example, in 1857-58 the same class Office Department for the three last years of accomplishing these herculean tasks, the Reof expenses in Buchanan's administration were Buchanan's administration made drafts on the publican party administered the Government over seventy million dollars in gold, whereas Treasury to the amount of over five millions a so wisely that prosperity has been all the time the one hundred and six million eight hundred year, in one year running up to nearly seven abroad in the land ; great business enterprises and eighteen thousand four hundred and forty- 1 millions. During the whole time the Republic. || have been undertaken and successfully prose, seven dollars above named are in paper. It || ans have been in power, the drafts on the Treas. || cuted; factories have been built; the forest must be observed, moreover, that in 1857-58 ury for the support of the postal service have subdued; farms brought under cultivation ; the population of this country was under thirty | notaveraged two million dollars per annum, and navigable rivers improved; thousands of miles millions, whereas to-day it is well nigh forty with this moderate expenditure we have been of railway constructed ; the continent spanned millions. Adding forty per cent. premium on enabled to carry on the immense mail service in l by telegraph wires; the two oceans well nigh
Mr. BLAINE. We hare estende,
, ana si
The occasion seems a fitonetas
answer to the many misteret die industriously set atoa: in reality Bir has been made throughout the
tain sarries and partisans to create sion that the expenditures et
00 3 scale of beedless and makes gance. I propose to show tha's fact, but tiat, on the contrat tures are made with ár more than one omy than distinguished the lates administration that was in make it
anzument, and bence 1 pratu dit Ittizures.
It is important at the content till standing and clear comparisa el. :! expenditures at the presezt ed period immediately pretending the per
tinguish between these erzest
were the inevitable cursedures.•* * iion, and thereivre la Portes 1* which must be to a certais enteadas ist the discretion sad ihe titeles celebration she those expenditures, which are a
growth of the rebellion, I esante 185 to soldiers and sailor The state
cup tirely demandet, wess the
the other to turn its lek te who risked eversibing
connected by a road of iron ; the emigrant pro copies taken, one cent for every five pages exceeding Sixteenth amendment:
Th tected on the remotest frontier; Territories fifteen hundred, including the indexes and the laws
Strike out the following:
whe of the United States, $10,000. carved out of the wilderness domain; and new
For newspapers, $12,500,
of States of promise and power added to the
The Committee on Appropriations recom
And insert in licu thereof the following: national Union. mend concurrence.
For stationery and newspapers for two hundrod and
fifty inembers and delegates, to the amount of $125 What other party in the history of this coun: The amendments were concurred in.
each, $31,250. try ever confronted such difficulties? What Ninth amendment:
The Committee on Appropriations recom
be oiher party ever gained such victories? But
Strike out "$3,500" and insert "$1,000;" so the par-
jad great as its achievements have been, its work is agraph will read:
The amendment was concurred in. not yet finished. Out of the fierce conflicts For packing boxes for Senators, $1,000.
Seventeenth amendment: of the recent past, conflicts indeed still raging, The Committee on Appropriations recom
Strike out "$16,000" and insert "$6,720;" so that order and harmony, conciliation and friendship, | mend concurrence.
it will read: are yet to be evoked ; not, indeed, by unwise The amendment was concurred in.
For twenty-five pages and three temporary mail concession and timid compromise, but by that
Tenth amendment: firm policy which is based on Right, and under
The Committee on Appropriations recom-
JOUE the leadership of one, who, so terribly earnest in
mend concurrence. paragraph under the head of the House of Repre
there war, is yet to-day the embodiment of peace, the sentatives will read:
The amendment was concurred in.
who conservator of public justice, the hope of the Twelve messengers during the session, at the rate
the of $1,440 per annum, $6,520. loyal millions !
Strike out "thirty" and insert "fifteen;" so that The The CHAIRMAN. All general debate is The Committee on Appropriations recom. it will read:
Tera now closed. mend concurrence.
For stationery $15,000.
The Committee on Appropriations recom. is no truth in the remark of the gentleman Eleventh amendment:
mo from Maine [Mr. BLAINE] that the Republican Strike out the following:
The amendment was non-concurred in.
the party put down the rebellion. Had not the Capitol police:
For the Capitol police, $64,000.
After the word "dollarg" insert the following:
ing in the Government Printing Office shall here
after be $1,800 per annum. The CHAIRMAN.
twelve watchmen, at $1.000 cach, $12.000; ono superThe gentleman from
whe intendent in the crypt, $1,440; uniforms, $4,600; conPennsylvania [Mr. Randall.] is not in order.
The Committee on Appropriations recom• tingent expenses, $500; making in all, $71,7418; one Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move half to be paid into the contingent fund of the Sen
mend non-concurrence. ate, and the other half into the contingent fund of The amendment was non-concurred in. pro forma to amend the first amendment of
the House of Representativcs. the Senate, my object being to say that the
Twentieth and twenty-first amendments :
Wha Senate has inadetwo hundred and twenty-seven
The Committee on Appropriations recom
Strike out “four" and insert "throo;" strike out amendments to this bill. The Committee on mend non-concurrence.
"$3,456" and insert "$2,592;" so that it will read:
For three laborers, at $861 each, $2,592.
Mr. COBB. I move to concur in the amend. Appropriations recommend concurrence in about fifty of the amendments and non-concurment of the Senate with an amendment. I
The Committee on Appropriations recom
mend concurrence. rence in the remainder, so that they may go to more to strike out the words “one superin
NO a committee of conference for adjustment. I tendent in the crypt, $1,440,' and to insert in
The amendments were concurred in. withdraw my pro forma amendment. lieu thereof the following:
Twenty-second and twenty-third amend
die The amendments of the Senate were read. For thirteen watchmen, including the superin
it First amendment: tendent in the crypt, at $1,400 cacb, $18,200.
Strike out"two” and insert "three;"> strike out
"$2.850 " and insert "$1.3:0;" so that it will read: On page 3, after the word "dollars," in line forty Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Let this four, insert, clerk to Committee on Appropriations,
For three assistant librarians, at $1,440 each,
thi be non-concurred in by the House, and let it $4,320. $2.230." The Committee on Appropriations recom
go to a committee of conference, and they The Committee on Appropriations recomwill have control of the whole matter. I think mend concurrence.
re mend concurrence.
it likely his amendment is a good one. The The amendment was concurred in.
The amendments were concurred in. section was non-concurred in to be sent to the Second amendment: committee of conference, in order that it may
Twenty-fourth and twenty-fifth amendments:
la On page 3, in line fifty-two, strike out "$864”and
Strike out "three" and insert "five;" strike out be made more perfect. insert"$1,000;" so that the clause will read:
three" and insert "four;" so that it will read: Mr. COBB. " I hope, then, that the gentleOne special policeman, $1,000.
For Botanic Garden, grading, draining, procuring man from Illinois will give my amendment manure, tools, fuel, and repairs, and purchasing The Committec on Appropriations recomhis attention.
trees and shrubs, under the direction of the Library mend non-concurrence.
Committee of Congress, $5,400.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I do not The amendment was non-concurred in. know that I will be on the cominittee of con
The committee recommend concurrence. Third amendment; ference. I have no doubt it will be made more
The amendments were concurred in. In the paragraph for the compensation of the satisfactory in the committee of conference.
Twenty-sixth and twenty-seventh amendclerks, &c., of the Senate, make the total $100,920 80,
The amendment to the amendment was instead of $98,701, rejected.
Strike out seven and insert "eleven;" strike The Committee on Appropriations recom
The Senate amendment was non-concurred in. out “$374 96" and insert " $296;" so that it will readt: mend non-concurrence.
For pay of superintendent and assistants in Botanic The amendment was non-concurred in. Twelfth amendment:
Garden and Greenhouses, under the direction of the
Library Committee of Congress, $11,296.
The Committee on Appropriations recomStrike out"twenty-five" and insert "ten;" so the For paying the publishers of the Congressional
mend concurrence. Globe and Appendix, according to the number of paragraph will read: For contingent expenses of the Senate, namely; copies taken, one cent for every five pages exceeding
The amendments were concurred in.
Twenty-eighth amendment :
Insert the following:
For the expenses of exchanging public documents The amendment was concurred in.
The amendment was concurred in.
for the publications of foreign Governments, as pro
vided by resolution approved March 2, 1867, $1, uN. Fifth amendment:
Thirteenth amendment: Strike out the words "For newspapers, $5,000,”
The Committee on Appropriations recomand in lieu thereof insert the following:
Strike out "fifty" and insert" forty-two;" so that
mend concurrence. For newspapers and stationery for seventy-four it will read:
The amendment was concurred in.
For folding documents, including materials, $42,000.
Twenty-ninth amendinent :
Strike out the following proviso:
Provided, That no judgment of said court for any
sum exceeding $5,000 shall be paid out of this apo Sixth amendment: Fourteenth amendment:
propriation, Strike out "second" and insert "third;" so the Strike out "twelve" and insert "five;" so that it
The Committee on Appropriations paragraph will read: will read:
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I hope Congress, $15,000.
Appropriations recommend non-concurrence.
the committee will not concur in that amend The Committee on Appropriations recom
The amendment was non-concurred in.
ment of the Senate. The House inserted this mend concurrence.
proviso, and if it is stricken out some judga The amendment was concurred in.
ment will take the whole amount of the Strike out“soventy" and insert “fifty;" so that it Seventh and eighth amendments:
$100,000 appropriated for these judgments in will read: Strike out "three thousand" and insert "fifteen For miscellaneous items, $50,000.
the Court of Claims, and there will be ng hundred," and strikeout fifteen" and insert "ten;"
The Committee on Appropriations recom
money left for small claimants. so the paragraph will read:
Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Mr. Chairmend non-concurrence. For paying the publishers of the Congressional Globe and Appendix, according to the number of The amendment was non-concurred in.
man, it falls to iny lot to represent the Coma mittee on Appropriations on this questio
Strike out "seren and more on
Firthe errenses of cregorio for the pabliuions of time
Prorused, Thatsu jadi I guercetting .
Witv.aw appropisted in my the Court of Clans sri
vided by results 20 apimore
3D the committee wil DuoT13
The Committee on Appropriations thought that pose to go upon the stealing principle, it may not every year appropriate the money-the
clusively. Instead of asking the claimants to control of the funds to pay these large judgMr. PETERS. I would ask the gentleman wait until Congress meets at another session, ments until Congress had reviewed and passed whether the sum appropriated was not pre we put into the hands of the Treasurer a cer upon that question. That was the law but a sumed by the committee to be sufficient to tain amount to be paid to them after they have few years ago, when all judgments of that cover large and small judgments ?
gone through all the expense of collecting in court had to be reported to this House that Mr. BÚTLER, of Massachusetts. That is 1) vacation time. Is there anything but what is appropriations might be made, if Congress saw what we meant to do, sir.
decent and proper in that? Is there anything | fit, for their payment. I think that that is the Mr. SPALDING. I merely wish to remark | but what is just in it? I cannot possibly see proper course to be pursued now with respect that if we limit the sum to be paid out of this why this two-penny system should be adopted. to these large judgments. But such a rule appropriation to $5,000 we virtually limit the It reminds me of a man I once heard of, about would operate oppressively upon the men who jurisdiction of the Court of Claims to $5,000. whom it was said that if he owed a dollar he obtain small judgments against the Govern. No member of this committee wishes to do would not pay it all at once, but in ten install ment. For these reasons, Mr. Chairman, I that. We do not expect to cut down the juris- | ments; that he would pay teu cents at one time, think we ought to adhere to the bill as origindiction of the Court of Claims to $5,000. And and then ride seven miles the next day to pay ally passed by the House, that being the best if not, why sbould we limit the payments of another ten cents, and so on, because he did || shape in which we can put this matter for promoney which they adjudicate to be due to not want to pay out too much at once. This tecting the interests both of the Government within that sum? It seemed to the majority of is very much like the practice of that old uncle and of the suitors in the court. the Committee on Appropriations that there of mine, old uncle Abel. I hope, therefore, Mr. ROSS. I rise to oppose the amendwas no propriety in it at all, and we therefore that no such system as this will be adopted, ment of the gentleman from New York, [M8. recommend concurrence in the amendment of but that we will pay what we owe.
KELSEY.] I think the Senate has evinced good the Senate,
Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I wish sense in striking out this provision. When we Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move to add a single further suggestion which has have established a court for the purpose of to amend the amendment by striking out the occurred to me, and to which I do not see the passing upon these claims there appears to be last word, for the purpose of calling the atten
The House some three years ago a propriety in having its judgments carried out. tion of the committee to the facts of the case. adopted an amendment to an appropriation If the court is unworthy of our confidence it The Committee on Appropriations and the bill, in which the Senate concurred, to the should be abolished and some better tribunal House of Representatives originally agreed to effect that no judgment of the Court of Claims established. I know of no reason why a person this proposition unanimously. They appropri- || should be paid until it was revised by the Secre- | having a large claim against the Government ated $100,000 for the payment of judgments | tary of the Treasury. Thereupon the Supreme is not entitled to have that claim paid as well of the Court of Claims, and the effect of this Court insisted that they would not entertain as a man having a small claim. I think there provision was to say that the $100,000 should any appeal from the Court of Claims, because is a propriety in leaving this matter with the not be gobbled up by any one man who had a there was a restriction upon the judgment of court and paying the judgments which they great judgment, but should be divided among the court, and they did not intend to adjudicate render. But I can see very well that this does men who had smaller judgments, under $5,000. upon cases of appeal which, when they had not suit the theory of my colleague, (Mr. Wash: I think it is just and right and proper that we given their final judgment, somebody else was BURNE, of Illinois.] His theory is to hoard all should non-concur in the amendment of the to revise; and they dismissed all appeals upon the Government funds, and convert them into Senate.
that ground at that time. It therefore became gold for the purpose of paying the bondholders, Mr. INGERSOLL. I rise to oppose the nece sary, at the very next session, to repeal while the people who have debts due from the amendment. This proposition strikes me as that law. And I am not at all certain but what Government may wait. If men have furnished simply a stay-law in favor of the United States. we are going to get into a similar difficulty by supplies to the Government during the progress It is a confession that the United States is not putting this restriction upon the judgment of of the war to put down the rebellion, and have able to pay its just judgments or its creditors, the Court of Claims.
been kept out of their money for four or five provided we owe them over $5,000 each. A Mr. LOAN. I desire to ask the gentleman years, the gentleman's theory--and I suppose creditor who presses his demands through this if the Committee on Appropriations have so that of his candidate-is to say to such men, court to judgment can have his money pro far investigated this matter as to satisfy thein “Stand back, you who have claims against the vided the Government does not owe him over selves that $100,000 will be sufficient to pay Government; we have got to convert all our $5,000, but not otherwise. By this arbitrary | all the judgments of the Court of Claims dur means into gold for the purpose of paying the rule the small creditor will have his pay, while | ing the coming year?
bondholders, and in the mean time we will draw the man who credited the Government to the Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Yes, sir; in the currency; we will subject to financial extent of twenty, fifty, or one hundred thou this is expected to be enough, with the balance pressure the poor people of the country; we sand dollars, perhaps with his all, shall have that still remains from former appropriations. will hoard our gold as much as we can, that we nothing. Is there any justice in this? Is there Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I with may turn it into the hands of the bankers and any honor in it? Is there any equity in it? draw the amendment to the amendment.
the bondholders." That appears to be the Is there any common sense in it? I cannot Mr. KELSEY. I move to strike out $5,000 ) theory of my colleague. All the honest claims see that there is, and I shall vote to concur
and insert $4,000. There is a peculiar pro of men who have been knocking at the doors with the Senate amendment in striking out this priety in placing funds at the disposal of this of Congress for years receive uniformly the proviso.
Court of Claims to pay the small creditors of opposition of my colleague; but whenever Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I withdraw the Government who establish their claims in there is anything that favors the bondholders my amendment.
that court. But Congress has never been will or the bankers, whenever there is anything that dr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I renew ing to give that court unlimited jurisdiction of tends to withdraw the people's money from cirthe amendment to the amendment, for the funds to pay all the large judgments that may culation and to impair their ability to pay the purpose of saying that I cannot see what any be obtained there.
onerous taxes which are bearing them down, body can expect to gain by striking out this Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. Let me my colleague is for it. I am very sorry that proviso: that is, if we mean to pay our debts. say that so far as the jurisdiction of the court he is running his presidential candidate into If we do not mean to pay our debts, but pro goes Congress has now authorized – it does ll this groove. °I hope that when the 4th of July
40TH CONG. 2D Sess.--No. 232.
The Committee on Appropres tek mind concurrence !!]** The amendments were ES: ;;
Twenty-cort and there we Stoke out "three" and is "three" andira "four"
Fur Buranie Garden, ,
The committee recipe
Twenty-sixch and despre
Firpurofagperipezieat selepas Garden indirecte Library Committee of luogress,
The Committee on
The amendments were concert
The Committee on 'mend concurrence
The amendment was comuns
The Committee ca deportato
Jr. WASHBIRVE of 1028
meint of the Senate
. The proriso, and it it is strikt
shall have passed by we shall have a candidate Thirty-eighth amendment:
Forty-eighth amendment: to whom the people can look for help in this Strike out "fivo," and insert "seven;" so the para Strike out "six” and insert "fifteen;" so that it will time of emergency. graph will read:
read, "fifteen clerks of class one." Mr. KELSEY. I withdraw my amendment. For compensation of draw-keepers at the Potomac
The Committee on Appropriations recombridge, and for fuel, oil, and lamps, $7,000. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I renew
mend non-concurrence. the amendment. I simply wish to say in reply
The Conimittee on Appropriations recom The amendment was non-concurred in. to my colleague [Mr. Ross] that I do not pro
Strike out "$66,004" and insert "$100,008." constituents, while his constituents, I believe, Striko out “$720" and insert "$864;" so the para
The committee recommend non-concurrence, have thrown him overboard. [Laughter.] Í graph will read :
The amendment was non-concurred in. withdraw the amendment.
For compensation of furnace-keeper under the old
After the word "dollars"insert "for one chief clerk,
The Committee on Appropriations recom.
The amendment was non-concurred in. Illinois, and Mr. Butler, of Massachusetts.
atives does not get as much pay as the one The committee divided; and the tellers under the Senate. I should like to know how
Strike out the words “declared to continue" and reported---ayes fifty-two, noes not counted. that is. Our employés should receive as much
insert "continued;" so that it will read, "is hereby So the amendment was concurred in. as the employés of the Senate.
continued in force until July 1, 1869." Thirtieth amendinent:
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. We recommend non-concurrence in order to inquire in
The Committee on Appropriations recom. On page 13 strike out the following:
meod concurrence. For compensation to the Private Secretary, assistrelation to the compensation of the employés
The amendment was concurred in. ant secretary, short-hand writer, clerk of pardons,
of the two Houses. three clerks of fourth class, steward, and messenger Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. We have
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The next of the President of the United States, $18,800. And insert in lieu thereof the following:
a deficiency appropriation bill, which is the amendments from fifty-two to sixty-six, incluFor compensation to the Private Secretary, one proper place for equalizing all those salaries. sive, are all of the same character; and the clerk of class four, steward, and messenger of the The amendment was non-concurred in.
Committee on Appropriations recommend non-
concurrence. I hope there will be no objec23, 1865, making appropriation for legislative, execu
tion to acting upon them in gross, according to
Insert: "and Supreme Court room;" so the paralive, and judicial expenses of the Government for tbe
the recommendation of the committee. They year ending June 30, 1807, as authorizes the President
graph will read : of the United States to appoint an assistant sccretary,
For compensation of the person in charge of the relate to the increase of clerks. a short-hand writer, a clerk of pardons, and two clerks
heating apparatus of the Library of Congress and No objection being made, the following of the fourth class is hereby repealed. Supreme Court room, $1,000.
amendments, in which the Committee on ApThe Committee on Appropriations recom
The Committee on Appropriations recom propriations' recommended non-concurrence, mend non-concurrence. mend concurrence.
were considered in gross:
Insert "six clerks of olass four."
Insert: " Second Assistant Secretary of State and Fifty-third amendment: graph will read:
examiner of claims;" so it will read : For componsation to tho laborer in charge of the Department of State:
Strike out the words in all, $32,910," and insert vater-closets in the Capitol, $720.
For compensation of the Secretary of State, Seo
the words and for temporary clerks $9,000, in all, ond Assistant Secretary of State, and examiner of
Strike out "scven” and insert “ twelve;" $0 &s to
read, “twelve clerks of class tour." Thirty-second amendment:
Mr. FARNSWORTH. Does this authorize Fifty-fifth amendment: Strike out "$16,050” and insert "$19,296;" so the
a Second Assistant Secretary of State ? paragraph will read as follows:
Sirike out "fourteen "ond insert "twenty;" 80 29 For compensation of a foreman and twenty-ono
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The Com to read, "twenty clerks of class three." laborers einployed in the public grounds, $19,296. mittee on. Appropriations retused to appropri Fifty-sixth amendment: The Committee on Appropriations recom
ate for this officer and this examiner of claims, Strike out "fifteen” and insert “twenty-eight;"80 mend non-concurrence.
but the Senate put it in. The committee did as to read, "twenty-eigbt clerks of class iwo.' The amendment was non-concurred in. not think there was any necessity for this Fifty-seventh amendment: Thirty-third amendment: officer.
Sirike out "six" and insert "twenty-one;" 80 as Strike out"nino” and insert" eight;" so tho para
The amendment was non-concurred in. to read, "twenty-one clerks of class one." graph will read: Forty-second and forty.third amendments :
Fifty-eight amendment: For compensation of two watchmen at the Presi
Insert "twelve copyists." dent's House, $1,800.
Strike out "$57,380" and insert "$63,880," as the
appropriation for the compensation of the employés The Committee on Appropriations recom
Strike out "$71,470” and insert "$137,000."
Insert “threo clerks of class four."
Sixty-first amendment: Forty-fourth amendment: agraph will read;
Strike out "four” and insert "six;" so as to read, For compensation of the doorkeeper at the Presi
Add the following:
"six clerks of class three.' dent's Ilouso, $1,000. Provided, That the third section of the act of August
Sixty-second amendment: 18, 1856, entitled "An act to amend an act entitled The Committee on Appropriations recom An act requiring foreign regulations of commerce to Strikeout"seven” and insert"nine;" 80 as to read, mend concurrence.
be laid annually before Congress,' approved August "nine clerks of class two." The amendment was concurred in.
16, 1842, and for other purposes," be, and the same is
Sixty-third amendment :
Striko out “$31,320" and insert "$42,700."
The amendment was concurred in.
Str ke out "two” and insert "four;" 80 as to read,
"foui clerks of class four," The Committee on Appropriations recom Forty-fifth amendment:
Sixty-fifth amendment: mend concurrence.
Under the head of “Treasury Department" striko The amendment was concurred in.
Strike out "five” and insert "six;" go as to read, out "five" and insert eleven;" so it will read,
"six clerks of class two,"
Strike out " $5,360" and insert "$9,360."
In accordance with the recommendation of
the Committee on Appropriations, the fore. The Committee on Appropriations recomForty-sixth amendment:
going amendments were non-concurred in. mend concurrence.
Strike out “eleven"and insert "twelve:” so that it
Strike out the following:
And the clause of the act of March 14, 1864, authormend non-concurrence.
izing fifteen clerks of class three, fifty clerks of class Strike out "$3,600" and insert "$5,000;" so the The amendment was non-concurred in.
two, and one hundred and forty clerks of class one paragraph will read:
in the office of the Second Auditor of the Treasury, For compensation of five watchmen in reservation Forty-seventh amendment:
is hereby continued in forco until the 30th day of No. 2, $5,000.
Striko out "six" and insert "fourteen;" so that it
June, 1869, and no longer. The Committee on Appropriations recom will read, "fourteen clerks of class two.
The Committee on Appropriations rečom. mend non-concurrence.
The committee recommend non-concurrence. mend concurrence.
The amendment was concurred in.
Is hereby cat need in lart
|tion to acting upon them in gros, seara
So objection being made 15 amendmenis, in which the Cement propriations recommended na ce1
the money order office of the Post Office Dean give a more specific answer than was given Strike at "cerea" sadecert " | Strike out "bre" ard insert "art
Strike out "&" and in
And the clause of the W.2.6
between the House and the Senate; otherwise that is the idea. Now, I see no earthly neces-
the committee of conference would find them. sity for taking this amendment out of the or. The Committee on Appropriatica 3
Also one clerk of class four, four clerks of class selves tied up by a concurrence in this amend dinary course. Let it go with the rest to a mend non-concurrence. two, four clerks of class one, one copyist, and two
ment and a non-concurrence in others, and the committee of conference, to see if there is
necessary clerical force in the several Depart any necessity for this increase. That is the
recommend what appears to be this wholesale the other bureaus of the Treasury, and I see Strike cut "$66,604" and insert "100%"
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The non-concurrence which has attracted the atten. no reason for any different course being purThe committee recommend non-cerze amendments froin seventy to seventy-eight are tion of the gentleman from Tennessee.
sued here. I withdraw the amendment to the The amendment 135 DOD-COBERTAI
all of a like character, and I hope they will be Mr. BLAINE. I move to amend the amend. amendment.
ment by striking out the last word, and I do it Mr, BLAINE. I move to amend the amend-
Tennessee, ,, put in operation without any clerical force to he
carry it out. They borrowed clerks from partment, and in the last year there has been
other bureaus. The system was an experiThe amendment was not-toek!
a net revenue to the Government of $53,753. by my friend from Massachusetts, (Mr. But ment; it was entered upon with a great deal Fifty-first amendment:
Money orders were given last year to the amount LER.] The Senate amended the paragraph in of distrust. Being an experiment no permaStrike out the worde" declared as a of $15,500,000. The number of money orders och
the manner that has been read, and the Com nent provision was made for it. It has grown i incent continued;" so bassade 2
ght thousand, Now, there is great mittee on Appropriations non-concurred in to be a success. But up to this time it has continued in forse antil Jus 1, 1940."
necessity for an increase of clerks in conse their amendments in gross. I received from been carried on with a sort of borrowed force, The Committee on Appropricom os quence of the large amount of business done the Sixth Auditor of the Treasury some inqui so to speak. This proposition is to provide mend concurrence.
in that branch, especially as that branch will ries about this matter, and I gave him some the requisite force to carry on the system, as it yés The anendment was coBCATO . pay for itself and a great deal more.
memoranda, and this morning he addressed has proved to be absolutely a source of revMr. SPALDING. I ask to have these Mr. WASHBURNE, of liti y me a note, to bę laid before the committee, in enue to the Government.
It is merely pro 33e amendmests from bliv-two to . amendments considered in their order. which he says:
posed to provide the necessary clerks-and if Mr. BLAINE. I move to concur in amend. give, are all of the same chande i
"From the tenor of your note to Mr. McGrow I fear || the business continues to increase in future ment No. 70.
there is still some misconception in reference to the Committee on Appropriations prat
probably more will be necessary hereafter-to The CHAIRMAN. The committee have not
Senate amendments relating to this office. We have il concurrence. I hope there bed?
asked for no increase of force, but simply that those
be paid out of the receipts of the bureau. reached that yet.
clerks, twenty-six in number, that have been trans Now, I care nothing at all whether the amendSixty-ninth amendment:
ferred from other offices and assigned to duty here, 13. tbe recommendation of the coazza.
ment of the Senate be concurred in or whether should be placed permanently upon our roll. So far Strike out "$49,920” and insert "$64,220.” from being an extra charge on the Treasury it is a
it be sent to the committee of conference. the relate to the increase of ceris
positive reduction of expense to the extent of the The Committee on Appropriations recom
But as the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SPALDsh
whole twenty-six clerks, the business upon which mend non-concurrence.
ING] has so captiously explained my motion, I they are engaged, the money-order system, producing The amendment was non-concurred in. a net income more than sufficient to defray the whole
did desire that the grounds upon which I made
charge. In reference to this point, I beg to refer to it should be distinctly understood.
the accompanying statement of Mr. Lynch, the very Mr. PAINE. I would inquire of the genIn line four hundred and eighty-seven strike out able clerk in charge of that branch."
tleman if these borrowed clerks are paid under the word "seven" and insert in lieu thereof “nine;" The following is the statement of Mr. Lynch: so that the clause will read:
some other appropriation? If they are from For compensation of the Auditor of the Treasury, Whole number of orders issued in 1868. 803,846 some other bureau it is not impossible that in for the Post Office Department, chief clerk, nine clerks Whole number of orders issued in 1866. 243,709 some other part of the bill there is an approof class four, (additional to one clerk of class four as disbursing clerk.)
priation to cover them.
Mr. BLAINE. We have cut down enor.
mously in some other parts of the bill. 1868..
$15,555,327 74 Mr. PAINE. If the gentleman informs me com. The amendment was non-concurred in. Amount received for orders issued in
3,977,259 28 that the appropriation for these clerks has been Seventy-first amendment:
cut out from its proper place, so that they will prize In line four hundred and eighty-nine strike out
not be paid upon the rolls of the bureau to "twenty-four" and insert "forty;" so that the clause will read:
Amount fees received in 1868.
$117,784 '98 which they properly belong, then there may be Forty clerks of class three.
Amount fees received in 1866...
35,799 98 some propriety in making an appropriation for The Committee on Appropriations recom
them in this place. But if it be true that they Increase.......
$81,985 00 mend non-concurrence.
still stand on the rolls of the bureaus to which The amendment was non-concurred in.
Amount of expenses allowed in 1868. $63,910 47 they properly belong, then it would hardly be
Amount of expenses allowed in 1866. 28,664 27
proper for us to double the appropriation for
their payment. Third Auditor's office."
[Here the hammer fell.] Net revenue accrued in 1868..
Mr. BLAINE. I withdraw the amendment The Committee on Appropriations recom
Net revenue accrued in 1866.
to the amendment. mend non-concurrence.
$53,753 69 Mr. MAYNARD. I move to amend the Mr. MAYNARD. I dislike this mode of
amendment of the Senate, so as to increase legislation. It cannot be that all these amend So that this office a great deal more than | the number of clerks by one. In my opinion ments are wrong. There ought to be some pays for the salaries of the clerks necessary to the clerical force at present in the several discrimination exercised. This mode of pro carry it on, and all they wish is that the House Departments is numerically too great, but the ceeding simply throws the whole legislation on shall concur with the Senate in making these clerical ability is not too great. If we had matters of this kind into the hands of a com clerks a part of their permanent working force. fewer in number of men, and more ability and mittee of conference. That is the practical Mr. SPALDING. I cannot for the life of capacity than a great many of them possess, effect of it. It does seem to me that the Com me see the force of the argument of the gen and would pay them accordingly, my opinion mittee on Appropriations might be able to give | tleman from Maine, [Mr. BLAINE.] Because is that the clerical service in the several De. us a reason why we should reject an amend. the money order service brings in a slight rev. partments would be much better, and would ment, or why we should not reject it. But a enue into the postal department therefore be more efficiently performed than it is now. wholesale proceeding of this kind, and to bolster you must increase the number of clerks. The condition in which this bill is presented it up by telling us that the committee of con Mr. BLAINE. Not at all; no increase is || leaves us no alternative but to accept the amendference can fix it, is a mode of disposing of it asked for.
ment of the Senate or to reject it as recomwhich I do not think is either very wise or Mr. SPALDING. That is the argument. mended by the Committee on Appropriations,
Now there is an increase of deficiencies in and when the bill goes to a committee of conMr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I will other branches of the Post Office Department, ference let them dispose of it as they may think state to the committee, for the satisfaction of and therefore this increase of revenue should best under all the circumstances. As, how. the gentleman, exactly why many of these go to make up for that deficiency as far as it ) ever, we have frequently heretofore had the amendments were non-concurred in, while goes. The only reason why these clerks are subject of clerical compensation before us when some of them, perhaps, would have been con. to be made permanent in this Auditor's office | there was no opportunity to debate it, I take curred in. They all refer to the number of of the Post Office epartment is that there is this occasion to say that I think it would be clerks to be employed in the various branches some additional profit, from year to year, as more just to the employés of the Governof the Departments, and in order that the com the business increases, upon the postal-order ment, as well as more conducive to the effimittee of conference might have the whole system ; that is the whole argument. Now, ciency of the public service, if the number of subject under their control so that they could || if there be anything in that argument, then we clerks were reduced and their compensation allow some clerks to go in here and some to must increase the number of clerks from day || increased. We should thereby get more work come out there and endeavor to arrange it for to day, from month to month, and from year for the same amount of money, and the emthe best of the public service, after full dis to year, as the money inereases that is received H ployés in the several Departments would be cussion the committee unanimously came to in the money-order branch of the service. much better compensated than they are now. the conclusion that it was best to non-concur Mr. ROSS. So as to use it up.
I yield to the gentleman from Illinois, [Mr. in all, so that these matters could be arranged Mr. SPALDING. So as to consume it all; FARNSWORTA.]
Fifty second abendinent:
Fitiy-fourth amendment: Spike ont “seren" and ingere real, twelve clerks of elas fou.
Fifty fifth amendment:
Brike ont "fourteer " and items to om to read. “weaty cierks oi care
Sirike agt "sx" Rod insert"! le to read, “twenty-vze cieras al clases it
Insert “twelve copyists." 158 ! Fifty-ninth amendment :
Strike agt "97,479" inser: "SI'
Strike nur "four "sod insert "u;*****
"BLIC Ocide tree." ed i Sixty-second amendment :
'pinc cierks of castro
going amendments were doa-dieten.
Sixty-seventh amendmeat: Strike out the following: iring fifteen c'erks of clan tornet
June 12, and do longer.
The Committee on ppd concurrence
Agent mes concu's