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unwise as to go against it. And it is not until Schenck Scofield, Selye, Shellabarger, Sitgreaves, priation, and whether, from his knowledge of some inan prejudiced against it starts out to Stewart, Taylor, John Trimble, Lawrence S. Trimble, Upson, Van Aernum. Van Auken, Burt Van Horn,

the property, he does not consider the amount find reason why it should not be paid that Van Trump, Van Wyck, Ward, Welker, Thomas

named a very moderate price for the lot in any ground can be found upon which he can Williams, William Williams, Stephen F. Wilson, question. make a specious argument, however great his Wood, and Woodward--87.

Mr. ARNELL. My understanding is that ability.

So the amendment was concurred in.

the appropriation has been recommended by Sir, this is a plain case. The Government Sixty-seventh amendment:

the proper officer, and it is certainly a very of the United States took this land for its own

Add to the bill the following as a new section:

moderate sum for property in the locality of purposes.

The Goverument exchanged this Sec. –. And be it further enacteil, That th Sec the original purchase. land for four million acres of land beyond Lake tary of the Interior, in his discretion, is authorized On the motion to reconsider, there were-

We must
Superior, and it has that land now.

to expend the appropriation heretofore made for the
purpose of crecting a penitentiary for the Territory

ayes twenty-three, noes not counted. yield this land to settlers. We are bound by of Colorado, on the site belonging to and provided

Mr. ARNELL called for tellers. treaty to do so, and this appropriation is to be by the said Territory for the purpose.

Tellers were not ordered. paill only when we have done so.

The Committee on Appropriations recom So the motion to reconsider was not agreed This is a just claim; and I appeal once more mend non-concurrence.

to. to the justice of this House to stand by the The amendment was non-concurred in. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move friends of the Government, and to stand by

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Minois, obtained

to reconsider the votes on concurring in the tlie faith of the Government. the floor.

various Senate amendments; and also more [Here the hammer fell.]

Mr, MAYNARD. I ask the gentleman

that the motion to reconsider be laid on the The SPEAKER. Debate is exhausted on from Illinois to yield to allow a motion to be

table. the amendment of the Senate. made to reconsider the vote by which the

The latter motion was agreed to. Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I with

amendment making an appropriation for the Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move draw my amendment to the amendment.

custom-house at Nashville was rejected. It is that the House ask the appointment of a comMr. PETERS. I would inquire of the Chair desired that a brief explanation upon that mitte of conference on the disagreeing votes of whether, if we vote to concur in this amend point may be made. The amendment was the two Houses on this bill. ment of the Senate, we do not vote to sustain voted upon withont attracting the attention of

The motion was agreed to. the report of the Committee on Appropri- | those more particularly interested in the ations?

SECURITY OF PASSENGERS ON STEAMBOATS. matter. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I will tell Mr. MULLINS. I hope the gentleman from

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois, from the the gentleman.

Illinois [Mr. WASHBURNE) will give us a little Committee on Commerce, reported a bill (H. Mr. PETERS. I asked the Speaker ; not time to discuss that matter.

R. No. 1372) for the better security of life on tbe gentleman from Illinois, [Mr. WASHBURNE.] Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I hope | board of vessels propelled in whole or in part by The SPEAKER. The Committee on Ap there will be no objection to allowing the

steam, and for other purposes; which was read propriations recommend concurrence in this motion to reconsider to be made.

a first and second me, ordered, with the acamendment.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I yield companying papers, to be printed, and recom. The question recurred upon concurring in to allow the motion to be made.

mitted. the amendment of the Senate, to add to the Mr. ARNELL. Juve to reconsider the

THOMAS W. WARD. bill the following:

vote by which the House non-concurred in the Mr. ELIOT. I want to report back from SEC. - And be it further enacted, That for the pur twenty-first amendment of the Senate.

the Committee on Commerce Senate bill No. pose of executing the fourth article of the treaty of

The SPEAKER. The amendment will be Wishington, concluded on the 9th day of August,

542, for the relief of Thomas W. Ward, col1812, the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby author

lector of customs at Corpus Christi, Texas. ized and directed to pay to the State of Maine for The Clerk read as follows:

Several MEMBERS. Let us hear the bill first. ninety-one thousand one hundred and twens-íve acres of land assigned by saiu Statc to settlers wücr Insert after line two hundred and forty-two tho The bill was read. It proposes to direct the said article, at sum equal to $1 25 per acre; and to following new paragraph: the commonwealth of Massachusetts for twenty-six To enable the Secretary of the Treasury to enlarge

proper accounting officers of the Treasury to thousand one hundred and dirty acres of land a sum the lot in the city of Nashville for the erection of a

settle the accounts of Thomas W. Ward, late equal to $1 25 per acre: Provided, That before said custom-house, $25,000.

collector of customs for the district of Corpus sums are paid the States of Maincand Massachusetts

Mr. ARNELL. Yr. Speaker, I feel sure

Cliristi, Texas, from March 5, 1867, to July 31, sball agree with the United States that the settlers upon their public lands in the late disputed territory that if the House understood the facts in re.

1867, and to allow him the same compensation in Maine entitled to be quieted in their possessions, gard to this amendment of the Senate they

and emoluments as if he had been legally colas ascertained by commissions heretofore instituted would concur in it. By act of August 18, 1850,

lector of customs for that district for that period. by said States, shall have been or shall be quicted by a release of the title of the said States.

an appropriation was made to this etfect: It further proposes to recognize the deputy colThe question was then taken upon concur “At Nashville, Tennessee, for the accommodation

lector appointed by Thomas W. Ward on the ring in the amendment of the Senate ; and of the custom-house, post office, United States courts,

7th of March, 1867, as the legal depnty coland steamboat inspectors, a building of like mate lector of the district, and the accounting offiupon a division there were-ayes 57, noes 43

rials, eighty-five fect long by sixty deep and sixty cers are to settle his accounts in the same man. Before the result was announced,

feet high, to cost not more than $95,000. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Minois, called for An additional appropriation was afterward

ner as if he had been legally appointed and all

his acts were legal. the yeas and nays.

made of $20,000 to buy a site for this building: The yeas and nays were ordered. The lot was purchased in a very desirable and I should like to know upon what ground this is

Mr. MULLINS. I do not understand that. The question was again taken ; and it was suitable part of the city of Nashville. Owing proposed to be done for this gentleman? decided in the affirmative-yeas 64, nays 47, to various reasons, the war among others, the not voting 87; as follows: erection of the building was prevented. The

Mr. BENJAMIN. I objeci, and call for the

regular order of business. YEAS-Messrs. Allison, Amce, Anderson, Arnell ground purchased is much too small for the

The SPEAKER. Then the bill is not before Delos R. Ashley, Bailey, Baldwin, Banks, Benton

proposed custom-house, wbich is greatly needed. Boles, Boutwell. Benjamin F. Butler, Chanler'

the Ilouse.
One hundred and twenty-four thousand five
Churchill, Dawes, Derecse, Donnelly. Eckley, Ela,
Eliot, Ferriss, Garfield, Griswold, Hamilton, Iligby, hundred dollars has been appropriated, but, as

REMOVAL OF POLITICAL DISABILITIES. Hinds, Hooper, Hopkins, Chester D. Hubbaril, Hlul I understand, it cannot be used for the pur

The SPEAKER stated the regular order of burd, llunter, Jenckes, Alexander H. Jones, Julian), chase of additional ground. In the report of

business to be the consideration of House bill Kelsey, George V. Lawrence, Loan, Lynch, Marvin, McClurg, Miller, Nicholson, O'Neill, Paine, Perham, the Secretary of the Treasury for 1861-62, I No. 1353, for the removal of certain disabiliPeters, Pike, Plants, Pomeroy, Price, Sawyer, Smith, find the following tabular statement :

ties from the persons therein named, reported Starkweather, Aaron F. Stevens, Stokes, Stone,

yesterday from the Committee on ReconstrucTaffe, Twichell, Robert T. Van llorn, Cadwalader C. Washburn, William B. Washburn, James F. Wilson,

Location. Custom-house,

tion by the gentleman from Massachusetts,

Post Office, Wivium, and Woodbridge-61.

[Mr. BOUTWELL.] NAYS- Mesers. Axtell, Baker, Beatty, Beck, Blair, Promwell, Cary, Cobb, Coburn, Cook, Cullom, Del

The bill was read. It provides (two thirds ano, Farnsworth. Ferry, French, Golladay, Gravely,

Revenue

Revenite of each House concurringo therein) that the Grover, Hawkins, Hill, Holman, Judd, Kitchen,

collected.

collected,

several persons hereinafter named shall be Kuott, Koontz, William Lawrence, Loughridge, Maynard, McCarthy, McCormick, Mercur, Moore, Moor

Nashville, Tenn. $18,022 00 $20,336 07 severally relieved from all disabilities imposed headl, Mullins, Nunn, Orth, Phelps, Poland, Shanks,

upon them, or either of them, by the act Spalding, Thaddeus Stevens, Taber, Thomas, Trowbridge, Elihu B. Washburne, Henry D. Washburn,

This statement, the latest that I can find, is passed March ?, 1867, entitled " An act to aud John T. Wilson--47.

for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1857. From 1 provide for the more efficient government of NOT VOTING-Messrs. Adams, Archer, James M. || personal inspection, I know that additional the rebel States," and the acts supplementary Ashley, Barnes. Barnum, Beainan, Benjamin, Bing ground is needed. My colleague who repre- thereto, and the amendment of the ConstituhamBlaine, Boyer. BrooksBroomall, Buckland, Burr, Roderick R. Butler, Cake, Reader W. Clarke,

sents this district (Mr. TRIMBLE] is not in his tion of the United States known as article Sidney Clarke, Cornell, Covode, Dixon, Dodge, Driggs. seat, or he could state the necessity for this

fourteen: Esgleston, Eldridge, Fields, Finney, Fox, Getz, Gloss

appropriation more forcibly and in detail than brimer. llaight, Halsey, Harding, Hotchkiss. Agahel

Jacob Kibler, Henry Summer, John P. Kinard, E. Willubbard, Richard D. Hubbard, Humphrey, InI can. The amount is small, is necessary, and

P. Luke, and w. w. Houseal, of Newberry countri gersoll. Johnson, Thomas L. Jones, Kelley, Kerr, I trust it will be granted,

H. P. Hammond, Greenville; Elihu Moore, LanKetchau, Lublin, Lincoln, Logan, Mallory, Marshall, Mr. MAYNARD. I ask my colleague [Mr.

caster; S. B. Clowney, Fairfield; Lewis Dial, LauMcCullough, McKee. Morrell, Morrissey, Mungen,

rens; H. I. Kinnard, Newberry: J. C. Miller, Myers. Newcomb. Niblack. Pile, Polley, Prayn. ARNEL,) whether the officer having charge of

Charleston; A. P. Kinnard, Newherry: H. Bratir, Randall, Raum, Robertson, Robinson, Roots, Ross, this subject has not recommended this appro

Greenville; S. W. Maurice, Willialasburg: 1), L.
Thomas Beaufort; F. C. Gowen, H. ('. Markley.

ments.

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Thomas Cox, and John D. Ashmore, of Greenville; Carolina (Mr. FRENCH] knows this gentleman Mr. BOUTWELL. I would prefer to have
William B. Johnson, Richland; Metts Williams and
G, W. Williams, of York; R. M. Wallace, Richland;

by reputation or personally, and will inform the the question taken separately on those amendJohn Twitly, Lancaster; Matthew McDonald, Abbe

House about him as soon as he comes in? ville; A. G. Baskin and E. B. Miller, of Richland: Mr. MULLINS. You do not want the name The previous question was then seconded C. R. Rutland, J. Botton Smith, and Daniel Burton, acted upon then now?

and the main question ordered. of York: Walter W. Herbert and Thomas Jordan, of Fairfield; Thomas E. Dudley, Bennetsville;

Mr. BOUTWELL. I ask that a vote be The first question was upon the amendment Alexander McBee, Greenville; J. B. Tolleson and taken on the several amendments already pro of Mr. FARNSWORTH, to insert - James L. 1. F. Bates of Spartanburs; William M. Thomas, posed. I shall allow some to be offered but I Seward, of Thomas county, Georgia, and EdSpartanburg; John S. Green, Sumter; Elijah U.

do not like to have the bill complicated with ward Cropland, of Graves county, Kentucky.” llorner, Edgefield; ll. W. Lawson, Abbeville; Doc various amendments.

The amendment was agreed to, there being, tor Robert Lebby, Charleston, James Gibbs, Colum Mr. MULLINS. Before the question is put on a division--ayes 54, noes 46. bia, all of South Carolina, Jacob Kcichler, San Antonio; Jacob Eliot, Na

I desire to ask who is the gentleman from The next question was upon the amendment varro county; Jacob Schmitz, Comal county; Rich Tennessee that yon propose now to relieve. of Mr. CULLOM, to strike out 6. Charles W. ard W. Davis, Goliad; John Blair, Houston county, Mr. BOUTWELL. George W. Marshall, Helm, of Leavenworth, Kansas.” and Thomas Ochiltree, all of Texas. P. M. B. Young, Cartersville; R. V. Bell, Banks of Lafayette, Tennessee.

The amendment was agreed to. county; II. H. Took, Thomas county; Walter Brock, Mr. MULLINS. I do not know him.

The next question was upon the amendment thirty-eighth congressional district: W. C. Daniel, Mr. BOUTWELL. But your colleague rec

of Mr. Paine, to insert William E. Vaughan, Savannah; William T. Martin, Banks county; John W. II. Underwood, Augustus Wriglat; Charles E. ommends him.

of Pasquotank county, North Carolina.” Broyles, Dalton, all of Georgia.

Mr. STOKES. I state to my colleague that Mr. PAINE. When I moved that amend. John F. Conoley, Dallas county; Henry C. San

I know the man and those who recommended ment I stated that when the Representative ford, Cherokee county, all of Alabama. him. He is a worthy man.

from the first North Carolina district [Mr. Zenon Labauve; John E. Frudean, parish of Jefferson: Theodule Drouet and Rufus King Howol, of Mr. BOUTWELL. I call the previous ques. FRENCH) should appear on the floor I would New Orleans; Wade II, IIough, W. W. Handlin, all tion on the amendment to insert the names of ask to have a letter read by the Clerk, and that of Louisiana.

William M. Moore and Leonidas C. Edwards. then I would ask that gentleman to state to the George W. Marshall, Lafayette, Tennessee.

Robert II.Gamble, Tallahassee; Thomas T. Long, The previous question was seconded and the House what he knows about Mr. Vaughan ; Lake City; Josiah E. Lee, Sumterville; A.C. Blount, main question ordered ; and under the opera for I have no knowledge of hiin except what I Pensacola; Benjamin Neal, Marion, all of Florida.

tion thereof the amendment was agreed to. have obtained from this letter and from the Charles W. llelm, Leavenworth, Kansas,

Mr. BOUTWELL. I now call for a vote on honorable gentleman from North Carolina, Mr. BOUTWELL. Mr. Speaker, that bill the amendment of the gentleman from Illinois, | [Mr. French.] He, however, is not here; provides for the removal of political disabili

[Mr. FannsWORTH,] to insert the names of but another member from North Carolina is ties from about seventy-four men from Florida.

James L. Seward and Edward Cropland. here, (Mr. DEWEESE,] who can state about South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Louisi.

Mr. FARNSWORTH. I desire to say that

this man.

I now ask the Clerk to read the ana, Georgia, Texas, and one from Kansas.

Mr. Seward is known to several members here, letter I send to him. We have given in the report for the purpose and I have no hesitation in vouching for him The Clerk read as follows: of placing in the records of the House the myself. I know him well, and have seen him recommendations in each case. Most of the

ELIZABETH CITY, N. C., June 30, 1868. recently, as have many members of the House.

DEAR SIB: In looking over a printed list of North persons named in this bill are members-elect He is a fit and proper person to be taken into

Carolinians whose disabilities have been removed, ! of State governments in these States. P. M.

the church. As for Mr. Cropland, his petition discover that the name of William E. Vaughan, of B. Young, elected to this House from Georgia, was presented to the House this morning, and Pasquotank county, is omitted. His name was in

cluded in the list sent up by the constitutional conis, I understand, a Democrat. He has been

he is youched for by the gentleman from Ken vention, and in addition we had sent previously in recommended by General Grant, General tucky, [Mr. McKEE.]

petition numerously signed by Republicans, asking Meade, and others of the Union Army. He Mr. BOUTWELL. I call the previous ques.

a removal in Mr. Vaughan's individual case. He has

recently been elected (first choice in nomination to was a colonel of cavalry in the rebel army. tion on the amendment.

the most respopsible office in the county, He has He is engaged at present in helping forward

Mr. BANKS. I wish to say a word in been constantly loyaland extremely Radical. Athis reconstruction. I know no other name to be favor of placing the name of Mr. Seward, of

request I drop you this, hoping that you will be able

to do something for him soon. found in this bill which it is necessary to call Georgia, on the list. I agree with what the Yours, &c.,

C. L. COBB. particular attention to, that is to say, there is gentleman from Illinois has said in regard to

Ilon. R. C. ScucxcK, Washington, D. C. nothing to distinguish them from those hereto

him. fore reported. I move to amend by inserting

Mr. LAWRENCE, of Ohio. These names

Mr. PAINE. I now ask the gentleman from the names of William M. Moore, of Yancey

North Carolina (Mr. DEWEESE] to make a had better go the committee and be examined. county, and Leonidas C. Edwards, of Oxford,

statement to the House.
It may be the opinion of the gentleman from
Alabama. I yield now to my colleague on
Illinois and the gentleman from Massachusetts

Mr. DEWEESE. I know very well, indeed, the committee. that these men ought to be relieved, but we

the gentleman referred to in the letter just read Mr. FARNSWORTH. I observe in this are called upon to act simply upon the indi

by the Clerk. He has been a good, quiet citi. bill the name of John D. Ashmore, of South vidual opinion of gentlemen who assign no

zen and a loyal man ever since I first obtained Carolina. reason; and when the House knows nothing

a residence in the State, now well on to three The SPEAKER. The Chair was about to about the particular cases at all. I shall not

years. I have always heard Mr. Vaughan state the fact that he has been already relieved. vote to relieve any man upon the simple opin.

spoken of as a man who was bitterly opposed His name was in the other bill. If there be ion of one member of this House without any

to the rebellion, and who did everything he no objection, it will be stricken out. facts upon which to act. I think these cases

could to break down Jeff, Davis and his oliThere was no objection, and it was ordered ought to go to the committee for examination,

garchy. I know he warmly supported the accordingly.

and I hope the House will vote down all these reconstruction measures of Congress, and did Mr. FARNSWORTH. I move to insert the

names that are sent in with some letter written everything in his power to assist in carrying names of James L. Seward, of Thomas county, | by somebody about whom we know nothing

them out. He was a Radical candidate upon Georgia, and Edward Cropland, of Graves | vouching for the parties. It will be a very the Republican ticket in the late election in county, Kentucky. cheap pardon if rebels can come in and have

North Carolina, and did good service in carryMr. PAINE. I move to add the name of a bill passed for their relief merely because

ing the election. He was elected to the office William E. Vaughn, of North Carolina. I send some gentleman at the South writes a letter

of clerk of the superior court. to the desk a letter which I have on the subject, saying that they are worthy gentlemen.

Mr. MILLER. What part did he take in the writer of which is well known by reputation. Mr. BOUTWELL. I now yield to the gen

the rebellion ? The gentleman from the first district of North tleman from Illinois, [Mr. Cui.lom.]

Mr. DEWEESE. He was holding a civil Carolina, [Mr. French,]I believe, understands Mr. CULLOM. I wish to inquire of the oflice when the war broke out, and continued something about the merits of this individual,

gentleman froin Massachusetts (Mr. BOUT to hold it for some time afterward. and will state to the House what he knows on

WELL] if the Committee on Reconstruction Mr. MILLER. Did he take the oath to sup the subject.

know anything about the bistory of Charles port the confederate government? Mr. MULLINS. Who proves this?

W. Helm, of Leavenworth, Kansas? I under Mr. DEWEESE.. I do not know whether Mr. PAINE. In the first place the writer stand that he is a northern man, who volun he did or not; perhaps he did. The office of of this letter, in the next place the gentleman | tarily went South and got on Bragg's staff, and magistrate, which was the one he held, carries from North Carolina, [Mr. French,] who, I is now one of the worst rebels in the South. no emoluments with it. believe, is not now in his seat. I will ask Mr. BOUTWELL. We know nothing ex. Mr. BOUTWELL. I now call the previous when he comes in that he have an opportunity || cept what is in the report.

question on the amendment of the gentleman to state the facts.

Mr. CULLOM. I hope, then, that his name from Wisconsin, (Mr. Paine.] Mr. MULLINS. Has the gentleman related will be stricken out of this bill. I make that The previous question was seconded and the all the evidence he has received why this gen motion.

main question ordered ; and under the operatleman should be relieved?

Mr. BOUTWELL. I now call the previous tion thereof the amendment was agreed to. Mr. PAINE. I have not related anything question on the amendments of the two gentle Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I move yet. I propose to have the letter read by and men from Illinois, (Mr. FarnSWORTH and Mr. to insert the name of John F. Alexander, of by.

CULLOM.] Mr. MULLINS. Are you acquainted with

Cleaveland county, North Carolina.

He is a Mr. JÚDD. Will the gentleman allow me man well known to me, He has never held the gentleman who writes this letter?

to present a name in connection with those any office, does not seek any office now, and is Mr, PAINE. The gentleman from North li already offered?

quietly at home attending to his business. He

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is fully and thoroughly in favor of the Union, Mr. MULLINS. I do not; and I have been and read a third time; and being engrossed, it and as a man of probity and honesty of charac asking for information.

was accordingly read the third time. ler, I know of no superior to him. He is under Mr. BOUTWELL. I think the disposition

Mr. BOUTWELL demanded the yeas and the employ of a northern company, carrying on of the House is to go no further in the way of nays on the passage of the bill. a large business to their great satisfaction, receiving amendments. I must therefore de The yeas and nays were ordered. enjoying their entire confidence.

cline to give way for any further amendments. The question was taken; and it was decided Mr. MULLINS. If the gentleman knows, I am willing that a vote shall be taken on the in the affirmative-yeas 77, nays 29, not yuting will be please state what part this man took in amendment of my colleague, [Mr. BUTLER, of 92; as follows: the rebellion, making it necessary that disabil. Massachusetts.]' I call the previous question. YEAS-Messrs. Allison, Anderson, Delos R. Ashities shall be removed froin him now?

The previous question was seconded, and the

ley, Bailey, Baker, Beatty, Benjamin, Benton, Blair,

Boles, Boutwell, Benjamin F. Butler, Cake, Churchill, Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. He was main question ordered; and under the opera Cook, Cullom, Dawes, Deweese, Donnelly, Driggs, in the rebel army in some capacity.

tion thereof the amendment of Mr. BUTLER, Ela, Eliot, Farnsworth, Ferriss, Ferry, French, Gar Mr. MULLINS. As an officer? of Massachusetts, was agreed to, there being

field, Griswold, Highy, Hinds, Hooper, Chester D. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. He was,

Hubbard, Hulburd, Jenckes, Alexander H. Jones, ayes 56, noes 45.

Judd, Kelsey, Kitchen, Koontz, George V. Lai I believe,

at first conscripted, and afterward Mr. BOUTWELL. I find that I promised rence, William Lawrence, Loughridge, Lynch, Malheld an office, as I remember it. the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Judo} to

lory, Marvin, McCarthy, McClurg. Moore, MoorMr. MULLINS. What evidence has the

head. Morrell, Myers, O'Neill, Paine, Perham, Peters, allow him to propose an amendment. I yield Pile, Plants, Poland, Pomeroy, Roots. Schenck, Scogentleman, beyond what he has stated, of this to him for that purpose.

field, Selye. Smith, Stewart, Stokes, Taylor, Thomas, man's returning sense of crime and of his pen. Mr. JUDD. I move to amend by inserting

Twichell, Upeon, Burt Van Horn, Robert T. Van

Horn, Cadwalader C. Washburn, Henry D. Washitence therefor? [Laughter.]

the name of A. J. Yorke, of Concord, Cabarrus burn, William B. Washburn, John T. Wilson, and Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I know county, North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I desire Windom-77. from letters from him, and from the report of to say this gentleman is a personal acquaint

NAYS-Messrs. Arnell, Bromwell, Cary, Chander,

Sidney Clarke, Cobb, Coburn, Golladay, Hamilton, a gentleman formerly a member of this House, ance of mine. He is a merchant of high stand Hawkins, Holman, Hopkins, Hunter, Julian, Loan, who has spent some time with him, that he is ing, and a man of high character. Under the McCormick, Mercur. Miller, Mullins, Nicholson, thoroughly “reconstructed." old government and under the government

Orth, Price, Sawyer, Shanks, Spalding, Starkweather, Mr. MULLINS.

Aaron F. Stevens, Taber, and Tafie-29. Well, if he is thoroughly | existing there at the time of the rebellion he NOT VOTING - Messrs. Adams, Ames, Archer, reconstructed," no act of ours can give him held the position of a justice of the peace. For James M. Ashley. Axtell, Baldwin, Banks, Barnes, any further relief. that reason it is necessary he shall be relieved

Barnum, Beaman, Beck, Bingham, Blaine, Boyer, Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Oh, yes ;

Brooks, Broomall, Buckland, Burr, Roderick R. Butfrom political disability,

ler, Reader W. Clarke, Cornell, Covode, Delano, for he is technically under disability.

Mr. MAYNARD. We have a delegation Dixon, Dodge, Eckley, Eggleston, Eldridge, Fields, Mr. DEWEESE. Will the gentleman give now upon this floor from North Carolina, and

Finney, Fox, Getz, Glossbrenner, Gravely, Grover,

Haight, Halsey, Harding, Hill, Hotchkiss, Asahel W. us the name of the ex-member of this body || it seems to me if there are any applications Hubbard, Richard D. Hubbard, Humphrey, Ingerwho recommended Mr. Alexander ?

from that State they had better come backed soll, Johnson, Thomas L. Jones, Kelley, Kerr, Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. General by that delegation. The gentleman from Illi

Ketcham, Knott, Laflin, Lincoln. Logan, Marsball,

Maynard, McCullough, McKee, Morrissey, Mungen, Marston, of New Hampshire, who is one of nois will pardon me for saying so.

I intend no Newcomb, Niblack, Nunn, Phelps, Pike, Polsley, the company employing Mr. Alexander. reflection upon any member of the House. I Pruyn, Randall, Raum, Robertson, Robinson. Ross, Mr. DEWEESE. If there is in North Car intend to state a general proposition for myself.

Shellabarger, Sitgreaves, Thaddeus Stevens, Stone,

John Trimble, Lawrence S. Trimble, Trowbridge, olina any man named Alexander who is loyal | They have better local information than any Van Aernam, Van Auken, Van Trump, Van Wyck, we have never been able to discover the fact. one else.

Ward, Elihu B. Washburne, Welker, Thomas Wil. [Laughter.)

Mr. JUDD. I will simply remind the gen.

liams, William Williams, James F. Wilson, Stephen

F. Wilson, Wood, Woodbridge, and Woodward-92. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. The gen. tleman how recently North Carolina has been tleman may probably know this man when I represented in any manner upon this floor.

So (two thirds voting in the affirmative) the state that he is a resident of the town of Bills were pending before the House for the bill was passed. Selby.

purpose of removing political disabilities long During the roll.call, Mi. DEWEESE. I have no acquaintance before that State was represented upon this

Mr. KELSEY said that Mr. Williams, of with him ; but so far as I have been able to floor. The particular district in which this Indiana, was confined to his room by sickness. understand, there is no loyal man in North gentleman resides is not yet represented upon

The vote having been announced as above Carolina named Alexander. On the contrary this floor. I made his acquaintance when I

recorded, a by-word with us is, “You are as disloyal as was in North Carolina for five or six weeks, Mr. BOUTWELL moved to reconsider the the Alexander family." [Laughter.]

and my colleague will indorse all I have stated vote by which the bill was passed ; and also Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I think in his behalf. He bas favored the congres.

moved that the motion to reconsider be laid I can relieve the difficulty of my friend from sional policy of reconstruction. He is a man

on the table. North Carolina. This gentleman went from of high standing and character. He addressed

The latter motion was agreed to. Virginia to North Carolina to take the super a note to me on the subject of his relief. I

ORDER OF BUSINESS. intendency of a business in the latter State. also received a letter from persons as thorMr. DEWEESE. Virginia is a very bad oughly radical as any can be, stating if there

The SPEAKER. The morning hour has State to come from. [Laughter.] And I will was ever any one entitled to be relieved of now commenced, unless the gentleman froun say that while I am willing to go as far as any disability it is this gentleman. That is the

Vermont (Mr. POLAND] calls up the election man in this House to relieve the political dis reason for presenting his name for insertion in

case of which he has given notice. abilities of men deserving such relief, I do not this bill.

Mr. POLAND. I said I would call it up want to see the gate thrown open so that all Mr. FARNSWORTH. The case is exactly

after the morning hour. I supposed, however, these rebels whose hands are red with the as my colleague says.

the morning hour would be in the morning. blood of my fellow-soldiers shall be brought in, Mr. BOUTWELL demanded the previous

[Laughter.] If this thing is to be carried to such an extent question on the amendment.

The SPEAKER. The Chair understands that every man who can get a letter written for The previous question was seconded and the

the gentlenian to decline to call it up. him is to be relieved from political disabilities main question ordered; and under the opera.

Mr. POLAND.

I yield for the morning we might as well adopt at once a sweeping res tion thereof the amendment was adopted,

hour. olution relieving all the unrepentant rebels of Mr. MAYNARD. I notice names from

MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. the South. Texas, which is not yet reconstructed, while

A message from the Senate, by Mr. Goruam, Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Does the there are none from Virginia or Mississippi. its Secretary, informed the House that the gentleman know this man at all?

Mr. PAINE. I have not yet brought up Senate had passed, without amendment, a bill Mr. DEWEESE. No, sir. the bill for the relief of the citizens of Missis

(H. R. No. 1156) authorizing the CommisMr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I do. sippi, as there was no necessity for immediate sioner of the General Land Office to issue a

Mr. DEWEESE. If I have the evidence action for the purposes of the State govern patent to F. N. Blake for one hundred and that this man is loyal I will vote for his relief; ment. The bill is ready.

sixty acres of land in Kansas. if I have not such evidence, I will vote against Mr. BOUTWELL. I will say that, with The message further announced that the relieving him or any other man.

the exception of a very few names of citizens Senate had indefinitely postponed the following Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I wish || of Texas, and one in Tennessee, and one iu Kan bills of the House : simply to say that I know this gentleman ; he sas, which has been stricken out, this bill em An act (H. R. No. 1313) granting an increase has been in the employ of a company with braces only the names of those who are con of pension to Sarah Hackleman, widow of Brig. which I am connected. I know him as well nected with offices in the States about to be adier General Pleasant A. Hackleman; as I can know any man. He is as loyal as any reorganized and admitted to representation. An act (H. R. No. 293) to regulate and gentleman in North Carolina or out of it. I

We act upon the general principle that from limit the admiralty jurisdiction of the district think I have not given any evidence of being time to time bills should be reported relieving courts of the United States; so forgiving to these people that I cannot be persons from disability in order to carry on An act (H. R. No. 90) to authorize and trusted to distinguish a rebel from a Union these State governments. I believe I cannot require the administration of oaths in certain

If I did not know this man, or if my l yield for further amendment. I now demand friend from North Carolina [Mr. DEWEESE] || the previous question.

cases, and to punish perjury in connection

therewith ; and knew him and declared him an improper per: The previous question was seconded and the An act (H. R. No. 1194) to provide for the son to be relieved, I would not say a word in main question ordered ; and under the opera inauguration of State officers in Arkansas, favor of such relief. But I do know him. tion thereof the bill was ordered to be engrossed North Carolina, South Carolina, Louisiana,

man.

should pass.

Georgia, and Alabama, and for the meetings same be referred to the Committee on Revo the Secretary of the Interior has charge of all of the Legislatures of said States.

lutionary Pensions and of the War of 1812. the Indians in every other portion of the Uni. The message further announced that the The motion was agreed to.

ted States. I hold in my hand a communicaSenate had passed a bill (S. No. 49) to revive

tion from the Secretary of the Treasury, ask.

SARAH A. BRIGGS. and continue in force the act of the 29th July,

ing that these Indians in North Carolina may

Mr. MILLER also moved that the Commit1850, and the act amendatory thereof of the

be transferred to the jurisdiction of the Secre2d of April, 1852 ; in which the concurrence

tee on Invalid Pensions be discharged from of the House was requested. the further consideration of the petition of

tary of the Interior. Those two Cabinet offi

cers have drawn up a bill for the purpose of Sarah A. Briggs for an increase of pension, || accomplishing that result, which bill I have STEAMER WAMPANOAG.

and that the same be referred to the Commit. | simply copied, and now report to the House Mr. PIKE. I ask unanimous 3onsent to tee on Revolusonary Pensions and of the War

by the direction of the Committee on Indian offer the following resolution :

of 1812. Resolved, That the Secretary of the Navy be di

The motion was agreed to.

Affairs, who have examined it, and think it rected to furnish this House with a copy of his order of the 13th of April, 1868, directing a trial of the Uni

DENT, VANTINE & CO.

Mr. ALLISON. As this bill was read I ted States steamer Wampanoag, together with the

Mr. WINDOM, from the Committee on

noticed something in it in reference to an reports of the trial of said vessel made previous or subsequent to said order, and such other information Indian Affairs, reported a bill (H. R. No.

investment of the Cherokee trust fund. I would as the Department possesses relative to the efficiency 1374) for the relief of Dent, Vantine & Co.,

ask the gentleman to give the House some or non-eficiency of that particular vessel or that class of vessels.

for provisions furnished to the Indians of explanation of that matter.
California during the years 1851 and 1852 ;

Mr. WINDOM. At the time the Cherokees Mr. CHANLER. What is the object of which was read a first and second time.

were removed from North Carolinia a provision that?

The question was upon ordering the bill to

was made that those who remained behind Mr. PIKE. To get at information about be engrossed and read a third time.

should have fifty-three dollars each set apart that class of vessels.

The bill, which was read, directs the Secre to them as a permanent fund, the interest of Mr. CHANLER, I have no doubt of that;

tary of the Treasury to pay to Dent, Vantine which was to be paid annually. About fifteen but who owns this vessel ? & Co., for provisions furnished to the Indians

hundred of them remained behind, and they Mr. PIKE. The Government. of California during the years 1851 and 1852,

have been under the charge of the Secretary of Mr. CHANLER. Is she for sale? the sum of $25,327 30, the same to be appro

the Treasury, who has been paying to them Mr. PIKE. She is not. priated out of any money in the Treasury not

the interest on that fund of fifty-three dollars Mr. CHANLER. What is the specific ob otherwise appropriated.

each. The desire on the part of both the ject?

Mr. OULLON. I make the point of order

Interior and the Treasury Department is that Mr. PIKE. To learn the efficiency of this that this is an appropriation bill, and must

these Indians shall be transferred to where the class of vessels. receive its first consideration in the Coinmittee

others are. Mr. CHANLER. Is she an isolated instance? of the Whole.

Mr. ALLISON. How are those funds inMr. PIKE. She is a steamer of about three

Mr. WINDOM. I hope the gentleman will

vested ? thousand tons, and made a trial trip the other not insist upon his point of order.

Mr. WINDOM. They are simply in the day. We want information in relation to that

Mr. CULLOM. This is an old claim; 1 Treasury of the United States ; they are not intrial trip. That is all there is of it. insist upon my point of order.

vested in bonds at all. We make no provision Mr. CHANLER. All right.

Mr. WINDOM. Because this is an old

with reference to that. The resolution was agreed to. claim, and these parties have been kept out

Mr. ALLISON. I would like to ask the GOVERNMENT OF THE ARMY.

of what was justly due them all this time, that gentleman another question—whether or not Mr. GARFIELD, by unanimous consent, is no reason why they should not now be paid.

the Secretary of the Interior can draw upon Mr: CULLOM. I insist upon my point of

this fund under this bill except through the reported from the Committee on Military Affairs order.

Secretary of the Treasury? How can he reach a bill (H. R. No. 1373) establishing rules and

this fund which is set apart? articles for the government of the armies of

The bill was accordingly referred to the
Committee of the Whole.

Mr. WINDOM. He can reach it, I suppose, the United States; which was read a first and

as he reaches all other funds that are in the second time, ordered to be printed, and recom

CONTROL OF INDIAN AFFAIRS.

Treasury of the United States. mitted to the committee.

Mr. WINDOM, from the Committee on Mr. ALLISON. By requisition? On inotion of Mr. GARFIELD, by unani Indian Affairs, also reported a bill (H. R. Mr. WINDOM. By requisition. mous consent, the foregoing bill, together with

No. 1375) to transfer to the Department of Mr. MULLINS. Mr. Speaker, it seems that other bills reported from the

Committee on Mili.

the Interior certain powers and duties now this treaty was made twenty or thirty years ago tary Affairs, were allowed to be considered at

exercised by the Secretary of the Treasury in with these Cherokee Indians; and by the acthe evening session ordered by the House on

connection with Indian affairs; which was tion of the Government of the United States, Friday next. read a first and second time.

certain funds were allowed to remain in the Mr. GARFIELD moved to reconsider the

The question was upon ordering the bill to Treasury subject to the order of the Secretary vote just taken ; and also moved that the motion be engrossed and read a third time.

of the Treasury. This is not a fund to be now to reconsider be laid on the table.

The bill, which was read, provides that the created anew, but it is, as I understand, proThe latter motion was agreed to.

powers and duties devolving upon the Secre posed to draw from the fund that has already TREATY WITH THE CHEROKEES.

tary of the Treasury, under and by virtue of been appropriated years ago for this object. Mr. LAWRENCE, of Ohio. I ask unanithe fourth section of the act entitled "An act It seemsto be now the determination of those

Indians to remove, and to reside with their mous consent to offer the following resolution : making appropriations for the current and

contingent expenses of the Indian department, | fellow Indians who have gone to the country Resolved, That the Secretary of the Interior be and is directed to furnish to this House as soon as

and for fulfilling treaty stipulations with the allotted them in the Indian territory. These practicable the appraisments of lands made in pur various Indian tribes, for the year ending June Indians who remained in North Carolina have suance of the treaty of July 19, 1866, between the 30, 1849, and for other purposes,”' approved been the victims of the most atrocious swinUnited States and the Cherokee nation of Indians.

July 29, 1848, and the powers and duties | dling. Agents have come here pretending to Mr. VAN HORN, of Missouri. object. devolved upon him under and by virtue of the represent them. One gentleman by the name CITIZENSHIP OF INDIANS, ETC.

laws relating to the investment of moneys in of Thomas came here years ago and drew the

behalf of the Cherokee Indians from the sales amount due to each Indian and bought some The

of land under the treaties concluded at Pon- || fifty thousand acres of land and held it in his call of the committees for reports. If there

own name; and these Indians are now deprived city, May 24, 1834, as also all other supervis- of every dollar of the interest upon that money, are no further reports from the Committee on Manufactures, the Committee on Indian Affairs

ory and appellate powers and duties in regard the property being now levied upon to be sold

to Indian affairs which may now by law be for the individual indebtedness of Thomas. is next in order. Mr. WINDOM, from the Committee on

vested in the Secretary of the Treasury, shall, The man has been deranged for two or three

from and after the passage of this act, be exer years, and is now, or was recently, in a lunatic Indian Affairs, reported back the petition of

cised and performed by the Secretary of the asylum. These Indians do not ask for reim. J. G. Olney, and others of New York, in Department of the Interior.

bursement of that money; but they ask this reference to extending the rights of citizenship

Mr. CHANLER. to Indians; also, the petition of the Peace gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Windom) in

I would inquire of the expenditure out of the interest due to them Saciety of Pennsylvania for more peaceful || what stage is the present condition of these

upon the appropriation heretofore made, which,

under the contract by the Government, was to relations with the Indians; also, fifteen other

Indian affairs, whether in the hands of the inure to their benefit if they remained in North petitions on the same subject; all of which military power or the civil power, and whether Carolina, and they have remained there. were laid on the table, and the committee was discharged from their further consideration.

this bill relates in any way to the struggle will say further, that during this dreadful and

about this matter now going on between those bloody rebellion, which is costing this House SAMUEL KELLY. two powers ?

so many days of labor in pardoning the men Mr. MILLER moved that the Committee Mr. WINDOM. I will state all there is in

who were engaged in it, those Indians were on Invalid Pensions be discharged from the this bill as I understand it, and I think I fully under the stars and stripes of the United States; further consideration of the petition of Samuel understand it. By somé anomaly the Secretary and now they come up as the wards of this Kelly for an increase of an invalid pension of the Treasury now has charge of about fif Government and ask that this allowance shall under the act of June 6, 1866, and that the teen hundred Indians in North Carolina, while be granted to them out of the original fund, so

now.commenced, and the regular order is the pot de, october 20, *1832, and at Washington

immediately on the ratification and detertar. CANLER. I do not proses medias

that they may go and reside with their fellow stipulated in the aforesaid compromise and agree the Interior, and all that is asked is that we Indians.

ments: Provided, That no bonds or securities shall sball confirm that ratification and authorize

be sold for less than par. Mr. WINDOM. Gentlemen misapprehend,

the money to be paid according to the agreeto some extent, this bill. It contains nothing Mr. SHANKS. I wish to file a minority ment which they have made among themselves

, with reference to the payment of this money: report in this case.

and wbich, it seems to me, we ought to carry The Secretary of the Treasury can now pay it Mr. KELSEY. I make the point of order out. Both sides have agreed to it, and are just as the Secretary of the Interior could do; that this bill, under the rules, must go to the satisfied. but the Indian department is not under the Committee of the Whole on the state of the

Mr. CHANLER. I desire to ask the gencontrol of the Secretary of the Treasury, and Union, as it appropriates money.

tleman this question: whether this does not he has no means of managing properly this The SPEAKER The Chair decides this divert from the specific purpose to which these money. It is, therefore, desired that these is not an appropriation bill. It provides for funds which are now in bonds were approIndians shall be placed with the other Indians. the sale of bonds or other securities of these | priated by express law of this Government; It may be said that there may be abuses under Indian nations for a certain purpose. An whether, instead of appropriating the money the provision now proposed; but there can be appropriation bill is to appropriate money of which was given by the United States for eduno worse abuses that those which we have the United States out of the Treasury of the ) cational purposes you are not taking this heretofore had; and these Indians had better United States, and the rules require that such money and converting it to settle a question of all go together. I call the previous question. a bill should have its first consideration in contract, agreement, or treaty, whatever it may The previous questiou was seconded and the Committee of the Whole, so that every person

be, and not for the purpose originally specified main question ordered ; and under the opera representing the people of the United States when the money was appropriated? tion thereof the bill was ordered to be engrossed may have an opportunity to debate it.

Mr. WINDOW. I believe a portion of these and read a third time; and being engrossed, it Mr. WINDOM. I wish the House to under funds was set aside for school purposes; not was accordingly read the third time, and passed. stand this bill. It does not appropriate any by treaty, however, but by simple act of ConMr. WINDOM moved to reconsider the vote money out of the

Treasury of the United States gress. But the nation, by its properly authorby which the bill was passed; and also moved belonging to the United States. It does ap; ized delegate, Mr. Pitchlin, acting in its behalf, that the motion to reconsider be laid on the

propriate money belonging to the Choctaw and desire this thing to be done. table.

Chickasaw Indians, but is no charge upon the Mr. CHANLER. How can this GovernThe latter motion was agreed to.

Treasury of the United States. Mr. Speaker, ment be a party to the violation of a trust? Mr. WINDOM, I now yield to the gentle in 1866 a treaty was made with these Indians. How can we as trustees of these wards violate man from Ohio, (Mr. SCHENCK,} upon the con By one of the articles of that treaty it was the law by diverting this property from the dition that the business which he may introduce

agreed that a commission, to consist of a per purpose originally designated by the Governshall give rise to no debate.

son or persons to be appointed by the Presi. ment to some new purpose?

dent of the United States, shall be appointed Mr. WINDOM, ' I suppose if the parties in REMISSION OF DUTY.

interest agree to it we have no right to object. Mr. SCIENCK, from the Committee of who shall take into consideration and determ. Ways and Means, reported a joint resolution ine the claim of such Choctaws and Chicka aware of the exact relation of those Indians (H. R. No. 327) anthorizing the Secretary saws as allege that they have been driven to this Government. But as I understand it, of the Treasury to remit the duty on certain during the late rebellion from their homes in from what I have read in the books, certainly meridian circles; which was read a first and the Chocktaw and Chickasaw nations on ac as held by Chancellor Kent and other excel second time.

count of their adhesion to the United States, lent authorities--I think Story in his Com The joint resolution directs the Secretary of for damages, with power to make such award mentaries holds the same--an Indian is a ward the Treasury to remit the duties on a meridian as muy be consistent with equity and good of this Government. Now, I hold that it does circle imported for the Observatory at Cam conscience, taking into view the circumstances; not become the Government of the United bridge, Siate of Massachusetts, and on a me and their report, when ratified by the Secre States to violate a trust, when the Goveriiridian circle imported for the Observatory tary of the Interior, shall be final, and author ment is the trustee and those Indians are our connected with the Chicago University, ai Chi ize the payment of the amount from any wards. It looks to me as if this matter should cago, State of Illinois.

moneys of said nations in the hands of the be referred to the Committee on the Judiciary The joint resolution was ordered to be en United States as said commission may award. before the House passes upon it. grossed and read a third time; and being en. At the time this treaty was made there were Mr. PETERS. Will the gentleman from grossed, it was accordingly read the third time, certain claims of persons denominated as loyal | Minnesota (Mr. Windoa) allow me to ask him and passed,

Choctaws and Chickasaws presented against a question? Mr. SCHENCK moved to reconsider the the Choctaw and Chickasaw nations. The Mr. WINDOM. Certainly. vote by which the joint resolution was passed; treaty provided this commission to ascertain Mr. PETERS. I would inquire of the geiland also moved that the motion to reconsider

the amount of damage due them. That com tleman whether all the treaties which probe laid on the table.

mission went into the Indian Territory, ex tected these tribes were not lost by their de The latter motion was agreed to.

amined witnesses, and reported a certain claring war against the Government of the

amount due to these parties for damages com* LOYAL CIIOCTAW AND CIIICKASAW INDIANS.

United States; and whether there has not mitted by the disloyal Indians during the war Mr. WINDOM, from the Committee on

been a new treaty made with them since the upon those who were our friends, stood by us, rebellion;

and whether there is not a clause Indian Affairs, reported a bill (H. R. No. 1370)

and fought manfully for the stars and stripes. for the relief of the loyal Choctaw and Chick

in that treaty compelling these Indian nations I believe I bave had occasion heretofore to asaw Indians ; which was read a first and sec.

to pay the loyal Chickasaws and Choctaws refer to some of the sufferings which these what they lost by reason of the rebellion. ond time.

people endured when they were driven out of Mr. WINDOW. The gentleman has stated The bill was read as follows:

the Indian country into Kansas. Many of the facts in the case. A bill for the relief of the loyal Choctaw and Chick

them were frozen to death. The Choctaw and Mr. CHANLER. Then I would ask the asaw Indians.

Cherokee nations have a considerable fund, 1) gentleman another question. Be it enacted by the Senate and Ilouse of Representalivce of the United States of Americae in Congress assem

amounting to about five hundred thousand dol. Mr. WINDOM. Very well. bled, That the Secretary of the Interior be, and is lars, I think, in the Treasury, upon which we Mr. CHANLER. Are the Indians themhereby, authorized and directed to adopt and ratify

pay them interest annually. They have also selves to be the recipients of this money, or the compromiso and agreements entered into and

certain bonds which we hold in trust for them. executed on the 20th and 21st of April, 1868, between

the Indian traders? This is in relation to the the legally-authorized representatives of the Choc A MEMBER. To what amount?

destruction of ihe property of a citizen of the taw and Chickasaiy nations of Indians, and the Mr. WINDOM. I do not remember; but United States. legally-authorized representatives of the loyal Choctaw and Chickasay Indians, claimants under the

enough, at all events, to cover this bill. After Mr. WINDOM. The gentleman is referring forty-ninth article of the treaty of April 28, 1866, the report of the commission finding a certain to another bill which has not yet been rebetween the United States and tho Choctavy and

amount due to these loyal Indians had been ported, but which will be soon reported. Chickasaw Indians, as a full and final settlement of all claims under the aforesaid articlo of said treaty.

made, it was found that there were certain Mr. CHANLER. Very well. Then I And the amounts, as stipulated in the aforesaid persons in the nation opposing it, and it was would ask the gentleman in what relation the agreement, to be paid to the loyal Choctaw and difficult to get the ratification of the Secretary Indians embraced in this treaty stand to the Chickasaw claimants, to wit: To the Choctaw claimants the sum of $109,742 08, and to the Chiekasaw

of the Interior. The attorney of the loyal | Government of the United States? claimants the sum of $234,000 ($150,000) shall be paid claimants being present, and a delegation from Mr. WINDOM. I have not time now to go by the Secretary of the Interior to said clainants,

the Choctaws and Cherokees properly authoruit of any moneys in the Treasury of the United

at length into that question, because the ComSucs belonging to or held in trust for said nations ized to make a settlement, being in this city, , mittee on Indian Affairs have several reports of Indians; but in case there is not a sufficient they met together and made an agreement, yet to make. But in reply to what has been !!nount of money in the Treasury of tho United

which I hold in my hand, in regard to the States belonging to or held in trust for said nations

said by the gentleman from New York, (Nr. of Indians to discharge their respective obligations amount which should be paid. As I said in CHANLER,] in relation to these Indians being to the loyal Choctaw and Chiekasaw Indians, claim the outset, it is not a sum of money to be paid the wards of the Government, I will say hat antz, or in case (the representatives of the Choctaw

out of the Treasury, but simply a sum to be and 'Chickasaw nations of Indians shall request it,

these Choctaw and Chickasaw nations of Inthen the Secretary of the Interior is authorized and paid by the nation of Indians to certain indi- || dions are very nearly as intelligent as white directed to sell such bonds or other securities held viduals among themselves. These loyal In people. They have their own governments in trust by the United States for the Choctaw and

dians have agreed, and the nation has agreed by their Legislatures, their printed statutes and Chickasaw nations of Indians as may be necessary to discharge their respective obligations to the afore. their delegates here in this city, upon a con

laws; their governors, their attorney general, said loyal Choctaw and Chickasaw claimants, as tract which is now ratified by the Secretary of who is here in this city to-day-they have all

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