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Mr. WADE. Then I will ask the Senator in ilization, and interposed against barbarism as an which he speaks, he would not stand by deliberthat connection, why did he quote those passuges effectual remedy, and as the only remedy that the lately and bold a prisoner of war in his custody of Scripture which seemed io deny the right to wisdom of man has yet devised.

and starve him to death. retaliate?

Mr. President, I say again that I hope this res- Mr. WADE. Not as a remedy for our starvMr. HENDERSON. I did quote some from olution will not be recommitted, because I believe ing prisoners in their hands? the Sermon on the Mount. I believe there were that every one is satisfied that at present, as I Mr. FOSTER. Notas a remedy for anything. some gentlemen present on that occasion who ex. propose lo amend it, it is free from all these side- || The Senator would not do it, in my belief. If he pressed very great astonishment at the doctrines

bar arguments that have been made against it. || insists that he would, and that I am at the same then proclaimed; and it seems the Senator from Almost every Senator has announced himself in time charging him with burbarity, or holding him Ohio is equally astovished as was the multitude favor of some kind of retaliation. Some say we up to the Senate as encouraging acts of barbarity, who gathered round upon that occasion.

shall give notice beforehand that we intend to re- he will see that it is he who does it and not I. Mr. WADE. Then the Senator invoked the taliale in the future, and that we should let by- Mr.JOHNSON. I do not rise, Mr. President, Scriplures barely for the purpose of showing his gones be bygones. Others say that if we retali- for the purpose of making an effort to influence learning in that direction, (laughter,) and not to ale in kind, we shall starve their prisoners to the vote of any member of the Senate either upon affect the argument, if I understand him. He death, and that will not do. The resolution, as I the original proposition or upon the suggested holds that we have a right to relaliate, and yet propose to amend it, runs clear of all these things. || amendments, because it is very evident that upon he invokes the Christian doctrine to show that It is that the President shall retaliate for these the whole subject the mind of the Senate is already we ought not to retaliate. He evidently does it, offenses to the extent that he thinks will be ef- made up. It could not well be otherwise, because then, for our benefit. When we want that bene- fectual; and he is to make the retaliation effectual, the argument on both sides has been in a great fit we will make a preacher or a chaplain of him. let it cost what it may. I would not enter upon measure, if not entirely, exhausted. My princi(Laughter.]

a system of retaliation unless I intended to make pal object is to state, as briefly as I can, the reaM: HEK DERSON. I desire to ask the Sen

iteitectual. The Senator from Connecticut greatly sons that will influence my own vote; and before ator if he does not believe that the code of mor- misunderstood me when he supposed that I offered I proceed in that purpose I may be permitted to als as taught in the Sermon upon the Mount is the proposition barely in terrorem without intend- say that neither of the members of the committee correct, and that it ought to be followed by man- ing io carry it out. Sir, I am not a man of shams. || by whom the original resolution was reported kind ?

gel up no scarecrows here. I tell the rebel au- need have disavowed any inhuman purpose either Mr. WADE. I do, but I think you most egre- thorities, "We will punish your men until you on the part of the committee or on the part of any giously misapply it. I do not think it applies to

I no more want to see cruelty prac- individual member of the committee. Those of any such case as this. If the Senator does, what ticed than do other Senators; but I want to rescue us who know them, and their constituents who becomes of his argument for retaliation, which he our brave soldiers from thie accursed cruelty to know them, and the country, will hardly for a says he holds lo?"

which they are subjected. That lies at the bot- moment credit even the suspicion that they design Mr. HENDERSON. I am very glad indeed tom of my efforts, and in order to rescue them I by this measure anything in human in the ordithat my friend from Ohio is a believer; but he am willing to incur any denunciations that Sena- nary acceptation of the term, or anything else than ought to remember that “the devils also believe tors or others may attempt to pour out upon my such as they may deem proper to arrest the inand tremble.” (Laughter.)

head, if I can in any degree release or relieve our humanity which has been practiced upon our Mr. WADE. I do not see any trembling in poor soldiers from the accursed barbarism that is own soldiers. that quarter, and I am sure there is none in this. practiced upon them. They shall have my sup- I have another remark to make before I pro[Laughter.) But, Mr. President, putting all that port and my aid and my voice. I will go to an ceed further, as preliminary. We are now in the aside, I do not really know what the Senator extreme in ihat direction. There is scarcely any- month of January, 1865. The only evidence that intended by the long argument he made. I am thing that I would not be willing to do in order to I am aware of, that is before the Senate or the sincere in saying that I watched his argument, effect this great purpose of protecting those whom country, of these outrages perpetrated upon our and when he got through I could not tell whether it is our bounden duty to protect.

prisoners, was made known to the Senate and to he was for retaliation or against il; because he What, sir! stand here voting for conscription the country by the report of a committee of our said he was for retaliation and then he proceeded bills to compel the young, vigorous men of our own made in Muy last. The honorable Senator 10 quote Scripture-which he said he believed in

country to take their lives in their hands and go from Ohio who shows so much zeal, and has dis-lo show that it was altogether wrong and ought forth to defend the nation against these accursed cussed his side of the question with so much abil. not to be resorted to. I thought I saw an incon- rebels, and then, when they are cruelly tortured ity, was I think a member of the committee besistency, and I think so now. I see, however, to death by our barbarous foe, fold our arms and fore whom the evidence was taken, and of course or think I see, that we can propose no sort of re- leave them to their fate! No, sir, no. I never was a party to the report. Tlfát report as I find was taliation to which he will agree. He says he is was guilty of an act like that, and I never will submitted to the Senate on the sin of May, 1864. opposed to retaliation in kind. There is nothing be. They shall be rescued if my voice and my Mr. WADE. I will remind the Senator that in any of these resolutions which says it shall be vole can effect it. I leave it to others to say that there was a previous report made on another ocin kind. The resolution reported by the com- we, having left them in the hands of their ene- casion, which showed these barbarities, long bemittee was merely advisory, not mandutory; my mies without an effort to rescue them for two fore that. amendment makes it mandatory but does not pre- || long years, will not now interfere in their behalf. Mr. JOHNSON. I am aware of that, and that scribe the measure or form of the retaliation to You may recommit this resolution; you may put makes the argument stronger, I think, for the be practiced. I leave that with the President. I it in your pockets if you will; but my voice is for purposes for which I propose to use it. There say he shall retaliate in such a way as in his retaliation unul we reach a remedy which is the was, then, a report made before 1864 on the same judgment will be effectual to accomplish the end proper and legitimate object of what we aim at. subject, and that report also disclosed to the counwe have in view. I go for that. If the rebels Mr. FOSTER. If I have understood the hon- try and to the Senate the existence of these barcannot be deterred from atrocities by the threat, orable Senator from Ohio aright, he construed barities. Now, I do not understand that, at least I am for putting the threat into execution. The some remarks which I made yesterday as hold- | from the 5th of May, 1864, down to the present Senator from Connecticut need not point to me ing him up here as a person more barbarous than time, these barbarities have been continued. I as a man whose nerves will quail before such a any of the rest of us, and as advocating acts of have no evidence before me, and I do not believe duty, I tell you, sir, I would starve the whole || barbarity toward prisoners of war. If I misun- that the evidence is to be obtained anywhere, that rebellion unless it becomes effectual so that they || derstood him,

I wish he would say so.

this conduct on the part of the rebels now exisis. release our men from this jeopardy. I have no Mr. WADE. I will say to the Senator that I Mr. FOSTER. Allow me to assure the honmincing of matters here. I say to you they shall did not suppose he really intended to say any- orable Senator that he is entirely mistaken. The be protected. I do nothing through wantonness. thing wrong; but I think the tenor of his remarks last officer who escaped from Richland jail, in When they release our men from this barbarity, was calculated to show that we who were advo- Columbia, South Carolina, lett there as late as I am willing to say, “ Hands off," and to make | cating this measure were stirring up a pretty bar- the 24th or 28th of December; he was ten days peace on this subject; but until they do I will barous remedy, and one that we should not be in getting down the river, and he has arrived here make the South a desolation, and every traitor warranted in resorting to, for he turned to me to in the North in the month of January, within fifshall lose his life, unless they treat our men with know if I would stand by and see a man starve teen days past, and he stated to me, as I told the humanity. That is my docrine.

to death. My answer is that the death might be Senate yesterday, that the ration of the officers I know of no limitation to this principle. The out of my sighi, and not in it, and if the death is then confined, when he left there, on the 24th or Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Sumner) said to occur, I would rather it should be the death 28th of December, (I am not certain which,) was there was a limitation; bull say that it' you begin of a rebel than of a Union soldier.

one pint of Indian meal per day and a few pinches ii, there is no limitation until it has the effect to Mr. FOSTER. So far from imputing to the of salt, and occasionally a little sorghum; and that remedy the evil complained of. You may begin || honorable Senator the barbarity to which he al- was the whole ration for a day. moderately, if you please, as my amendment | ludes, I very sedulously avoided saying anything Mr. JOHNSON. The honorable member misleaves the President a right to do; you may begin of the kind, because I had no such belief or im- understood me. mildly; but unless what you do is effectual, 1 || pression on my mind; but now, from the expla- Mr. SUMNER. If the Senator from Marywould censure the President if he did not follow

pation of the Senator, I see that the wrong I did land will yield, I will move that the Senate now it up with sterner and sterner measures until the || him was in supposing that he would not sland proceed to the consideration of executive busieffect should finally be produced, even if it con- by and starve a man to death. I expressly said ness, which will leave this question in order for demned to death every rebel in the southern yesterday that I did not believe it. It seems that to-morrow. Stules.

in that I'was mistaken, for he now avows that he Mr.JOHNSON. I have no objection, provided There, sir, I stand; for, by the eternal God, would. Of course he has a right to make the it is understood that I have the fivor to-morrow, our soldiers, defending their country, shall be pro- decision for himself; it is not mine, but his. I [“ Certainly.”) lerred, let it cause what evil it may to the other must, however, still beg his pardon for believing Mr. WADE. Before the question is put on Bide. These are my doctrines. These are the that I knew his mind in that respect, when it The motion of the Senator from Massachusetts, I doctrines of international law; they do not origi- should come to the point, better than he does him- wish to ask that the amendment I have offered to nale with me. They are doctrines as old as civ- self, and that, not withstanding the impulse under this resolution be printed.

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The PRESIDING OFFICER. That order The question was taken, and the motion was regular order, at the request of the gentleman will be made. agreed to.



Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I desire to On motion of Mr. SUMNER, the Senate pro- Mr. STEVENS also, by unanimous consent,

make regular reports from the Committee on Comceeded to the consideration of executive business; reported from the Committee of Ways and Means

merce, which ihe gentleman can hear from the

Clerk's desk. and after some time spent in executive session a bill to amend an act entitled “ An act to in

The SPEAKER. The privileged question of the doors were reopened, and the Senate adjourned. crease the compensation of inspectors of customs

the motion lo reconsider having been passed over in certain ports,' approved April 29, 1864. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Mr. STEVENS. I think there will be no ob

informally, the Illinois ship-canal bill will come jection to this bill after hearing it read.

up before the regular order of business.
Thursday, January 26, 1865.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Qlinois. I cannot con-

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then I move The House met al twelve o'clock, m. Prayer sent to have the bill taken up and acted upon at

10 postpone the Illinois ship-canal bill until the

time fixed for the consideration of the Niagara by the Chaplain, Rev. W. H. CHANNING. this time; I am willing to have it introduced, and

ship-canal bill. The Journalof yesterday was read and approved. | postponed.

The motion was agreed to.
Mr. STEVENS. Then I move that the bill

The SPEAKER. The next business in order be postponed till Wednesday next, and made the Mr. BENNET, by unanimous consent, in special order for that day after the morning hour, || mencing with the Committee on Commerce.

is the regular call of committees for reports, comtroduced a bill in relation to preemption rights in and from day to day until disposed of. Colorado Territory; which was read a first and The motion was agreed to.

UNITED STATES MINT AT DALLES CITY, second time, and referred to the Committee on


Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I am directed Public Lands.

by the Commiliee on Commerce to report back Mr. STEVENS, by unanimous consent, reSETTLEMENTS ON THE PUBLIC LANDS.

the bill to relocate the United States branch mint ported from the Committee of Ways and Means Mr. BENNET. I ask the unanimous consent a bill for the relief of collectors and surveyors of

at Dalles city, provided for by the act approved of the House to offer the following resolution: customs in certain cases.

July, 1864, and to ask that they be discharged

from the further consideration of that bill, and Resolved, That the Committee on Public Lands be in- Mr. STEVENS. I do not think that after the structed to inquire into the propriety of so changing existreading of this bill any objection will be made

that it be referred to the Committee of Ways and ing laws as to legalize the settlement by loyal citizens upon

Means. any and all the public domain of the United States to which to its consideration and passage at this time. I

The motion was agreed to. the Indian title has been or may be extinguished, and re

therefore ask unanimous consent to take this bill port by bill or otherwise. up and consider it at this time.

FOG-BELL ON GOVERNOR'S ISLAND, NEW YORK. Mr. HOLMAN. I shall not object to the reso- The bill was read at length. It provides that Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I am dilution if the words “except mineral lands" be in all cases in which any collector or surveyor of rected by the Commitee on Commerce to report inserted.

customs has paid or accounted for, or is charged a bill which is founded on a letter by the SecreMr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Accept that with duties accruing under the joint resolution to tary of the Treasury and a report of the Lightmodification.

increase temporarily the duties on imporls, ap- House Board, to appropriate $500 for the erection Mr. BENNET. Oh no, the resolution is in- proved April 29, 1864, and in which the Secretary of a fog-bell or a log-trumpet ou Governor's isltended to cover that. of the Treasury shall be satisfied that the collec

and, in the harbor of New York. There seems Mr. HOLMAN. Then I object to it. tion of said duties was omitted by said collector

to be a necessity for the erection of a fog-bell or surveyor in consequence of not being informed GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF COLORADO.

there. It is recommended by the Secretary of the of the passage of said resolution under which said

Treasury, by the collector of the port of New Mr. BENNET, by unanimous consent, sub- duties have accrued, the Secretary of the Treas- York, and by the Lighl-House Board. If any mitted the following resolution; which was read, | ury, under such rules and regulations as he may gentleman objects, it must go to the Committee of considered, and agreed to:

prescribe, shall remit or refund, as the case may the Whole on the state of the Union. If not, then Resolvedl, That the Committee on Public Lands be in- require, said duties to such collectors.

I would ask to have the bill passed now. structed to inquire into the propriety of providing by law No objection was made to the consideration of The bill was read at length. for a geological survey of Colorado and other mining 'l'erri

the bill. tories of the United States, and report by bill or otherwise.

Mr. PIKE. I will not object to the considerMr. STEVENS. I will state in a few words

ation of this bill at this time it the gentleman will ORDER OF BUSINESS. the object of this bill. We passed an act, dated

accept an amendment I desire to offer. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I desire to the 29th of April, 1864, signed at that time by Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I have no move to postpone the consideration of the special the President.' But it was not promulgated until authority to accept an amendment, for this bill is order, being the motion submitted by the gentlethe 30th of the month. In the mean time it took

a report from a committee. man from Ohio, (Mr. PENDLETON,] io reconsider effect from the day of its being signed. Several Mr. PIKE. Then I object. the vote of the House at the last session upon the

collectors in different parts of the country did The bill was received and referred to the Comjoint resolution in relation to the admission of not hear of the passage of the act for two days mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union. heads of Executive Departments on the floor of after it was signed, and went on in the old way,

ASSISTANT INSPECTORS OF STEAMBOATS. the House. As the gentleman entitled to the floor omitting to collect the new duties imposed by the (Mr. Cox] is not now present, I move to postact. The collector of the customs at Chicago

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I am inpone the special order until after the morning was one; and the collectors in all the western

structed by the Committee on Commerce to report hour. We can get through some important busi- country are in the same condition. This bill is back a bill (H. R. No. 667) to provide for iwo ness in that time.

intended to enable the Secretary of the Treasury assistant inspectors of steamboats in the city of The SPEAKER. The motion to reconsider, to release them and not hold them responsible for New York, and for two local inspectors at Gathe consideration of which was pending at the the non-collection of duties under those circum

lena, Illinois, and to ask for its consideration at time the House adjourned on yesterday, is not a stances.

this time, special order. But being a motion to reconsider, The bill was then ordered to be engrossed and

The bill was read at length. it is a privileged question. read a third time; and being engrossed, it was

Section one provides for the appointment of Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then I move read the third time, and passed.

two assistant inspectors of steamboats in the city to postpone its further consideration until after Mr. STEVENS moved to reconsider the vote

of New York, with an annual compensation of the morning hour. I want to get at the regular | just taken; and also moved that the motion to -$1,200 each; and two local inspectors at Galena, order of business. reconsider be laid on the table.

Mlinois, with an annual compensation of $800 Mr. PENDLETON. I hope the gentleman

The latter motion was agreed to.

each; whose duties shall be the same that are prefrom Illinois, [Mr. WASHBURNE,) instead of press

scribed by the steamboat act of August 30, 1862.

ORDER OF BUSINESS. ing the motion to postpone, will go on with what

Section two provides that in lieu of the fees for ever he may have to do until my colleague (Mr.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I desire to inspection now collected, there shall be levied and Cox) comes in. The Committee of Ways and

make some reports from the Committee on Com- collected the sum of twenty-five dollars for each Means are striving very hard to get in some of

vessel of one hundred tons, and five cents for

Mr. HOLMAN. Is it the understanding that each addicional ton. their bills; and if the gentleman will just go on with the ordinary business of the House, that will

the motion to reconsider, pending at the time of Section three provides for the repeal of all acts answer his purpose.

adjournment yesterday, has been passed over or parts of acts inconsistent with the provisions Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Very well;

of this bill. informally?

The SPEAKER. Passed over until the genthat is all I want.

Mr. SPALDING. I want to move to strike No objection was made.

tleman from Onio (Mr. Cox) who is entitled to out the two inspectors at Galena, Illinois.
the floor upon that question shall come in.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois

Mr. HOLMAN. I desire to have the privi- is entitled to the floor. Mr. STEVENS, by unanimous consent, re- lege of making the ordinary point of order upon Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I do not ported from the Committee of Ways and Means the business as reported. Irthe gentleman from yield for that purpose. å bill to amend an act entitled “ An act to pro- Illinois (Mr. WASHBURNE) asks unanimous con- Mr. MORRILL. As I am in favor of economy vide a national currency secured by the pledge of sent to report his buils, then of course the ques. I would like to ask the gentleman from Illinois United States bonds, and to provide for the circu- tion comes up. I call for the regular order of whether there is any necessity for these inspectlation and redemption thereof." business.

ors at Galena. I understand that the channel at Mr. STEVENS. I ask that the bill be printed, Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The reg. that pomt does not afford a current for any steamand postponed until a week from next Monday, | ular order of business will suit my case exactly. boat of more than two feet draught. and made the special order for that day after the I move to postpone the regular 'order until the Mr. STEVENS. I hope the gentleman will morning hour, and from day to day until dis- gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Cox) comes in. allow the bill to be postponed. posed of

Mr. HOLMANI withdraw the call for the Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I will state



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to the House the provisions of the bill; and then, is the same as those proposed to be paid at Ga- the steamboat law the United States are divided it'a mujority of the House do not wish to pass the lena.

inco mine supervising districts; there is a superbili, they can refuse to do so:

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The salary, vising inspector for each district, and in each disMr. STEVENS. Tundurstand it has not been at Buffalo, as now fixed by law, is $1,200 perana trice there are local inspectors to aid the superprinted.

Duin. The memorjul asks an increase of this vising inspectors. These supervising inspectors Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. No, sir; it sulary to $2,000. That memorial has not yet have charge of this whole matter, and recommend is not printed.

been acted upon by the committee. In framing to Congress, through the Secretary of the TrrusMr.'STEVENS. Mr. Speaker

this bill, the Committee on Commerce, in con- ury, what is required for the public good. They Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I believe I sideration of the larger amount and the greater recommend where boards should be established. am entitled to the floor.

importance of the business at New York, have This is not merely a matter for position. The bill TheSPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois fixed the salary of the assistant inspectors at New only carries out ihe object of ihe steamboat law. declines to yield, did musi be allowed to proceed York at $1,200, and the salary of the same officers I will say to the gentleman from Ohio that the williout interruption. at Galena at $800.

duties of the supervising inspector have so inMr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I send to Mr. PIKE The tonnage tax spoken of in the creased by bringing in tug-boats, ferry-boats, and the Clerk a leller from the Secretary of the Treas- bill perlumns, I suppose, lo steam-vessels ullo- tow-boats, that it is impossible for him to perform ury, which I ask may be read. gether.

them without this assistance. The Clerk read, as follows:

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Yes, sir. As to the question of the expenditure under the TREASCRY DEPARTMENT, January 23, 1865. Mr. PIKE. The bill, so far as I observe, does law which we passed at the last session of ConSIR: I liave the bonor to acknowledge the receipt of not specify. Would the gentleman object to gress, I will add that the fees more than pay all your letter of the luninstant, transmitting a copy of a biil inserting the word “steam" before the word

the expenses. introduced into the Louse of Representatives, creating two " vessels?")

Mr. 'WILSON. As this is not a matter of ofussistant local inspectors of steamboills for the district of New York, and a new local board for the district of Ga

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I have no fice, but of convenience for the district, I ask the lena, Illinois, with a r'quest that I communicate any sug- objection to that omendmeni.

gentleman whether he is willmg to allow me to gestions I have to make upon the subject.

Mr. PIKE. Then I move to amend by insert- offer an amendment fixing one of these inspectors You also request a statement of the amount of fees received !!der the amendment of the sleuwbout law

ing ihe word “steam" before the word "vessels." at Dubuque, lowa? appruved June 8, 1834.

The anındment was agreed to.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I do not The board of supervising inspectors in their last annual Mr. SPALDING. I desire to ask whether know that there is any local question here. I report say (180) t-aisant inspectors for the district of Now York, and a new local board for the port of Gillena, lili

the committee, in fixing the salory of the assist- hope that my friend will not interfere with a matnois, will be required, in addition to those already autor

ant inspectors at Galena at $800 have not made ter of this kind. ized ly law. Tunink their suggestion should be complied it higher than the average pay of steamboat in- Mr. SPALDING. I withdraw my amendment. with; and I am also of the opinion that the salaries of the spectors on the western rivers and lakes.

Mr. BLATR. I hope that my friend will perassistant inspectors al New York should be larger than are provided for in the bill inclosed by you.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois, I think not. mit me to move an amendment, lo appoint inTu cuinpliance with the request oi the cominittce ap. I think the salary at St. Louis is $1,500.

spectors at Parkersburg and Wheeling, West polnited by the board of supervising inspectors at their last Mr. SPALDING. Out where I live, the pay,

Virginia. amuual inceting; and in a reply to a culi!unication of the I know, is five hundred or five hundred and filliy Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois, I will state 1211 instant trout the chairman of the Commitee ou Commence of the United States Senate, asking for information

dollars. But I believe there is now before the to my friend from West Virginia precisely the relative to the nicessity and propriety or Senate bill No. committee, of which the gentleman is chairman, state of this question. There were no less than 311, Toreguliatelle sillaries oistelmboat inspectors on the a petition for an increase of those salaries. If four boards in that district; at Cincinnati, WheelPacific coast of the United States, and for other purposes,

the gentleman proposes to raise all these salaries ing, Louisville, and Pittsburg. The supervising hecoming a law. I transmitted on the 14th instant to the ebairuan of that committee a drait of a bill, a copy of

in proportion to the pay of these officers at Galena, inspectors recommended that the board at Wheel which, with hiu leller accompanying it, is herewith in- I bave no objection.

ing should be discontinued because there was no closed.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. If the genThe return of fees received under the "act to create an

necessity for it, and Congress at the last session tleman thinks that the salary proposed in the bill additional supervising inspector of steamboats," &c., ap

accordingly repealed that portion of the act. They proved June 8, 1€6 t, can only in part be given, as complete is too much, I will yield the floor that he may said that there was no necessity for a board at returus have not yet been made to his Department. move to aineid.

Wheeling, as there was one at Pittsburg, within I will cake this occasion to suggest that the sixth section Mr. SPALDING. I move to amend by striking one hundred miles, one al Cincinnati, and one at of the act la-t referred to be amended by the passage of

Louisville. the sections here with inclosed.

out " eight hundred," and inserting "six hunWith great respect, W.P. FESSENDEN, dred.'

Mr. BLAIR. I ask the gentleman from IlliSecretary of the Treasury. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I have no nois whether, if there were none in his Stale, he Hon. E. B. WASHBURNE, Chairman of the Commillee on objection to that amendment. I yield the floor to would think it right and just. We have nove in Commerce, llouse of Representatives of the United States. have that amendment submitted.

our State at all, and it is not right that we should Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The object The SPEAKER. The amendment is pending. be thus deprived of that privilege. of this will is to create two assistant inspectors in Mr. WASABURNE, of Illinois. I now de- Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. If any of the city of New York, and two lucal inspectors mand the previous question.

the gentleman's constituenis at Wheeling desire at Galena; and the second section is in relation Mr. GANSON. I hope the gentleman will to have their boals inspected they can in twentyto the tax upon tonnage. The attention of the wilbidraw the demand for the previous question, four or in twelve hours get a local inspector from Commitive on Commerce was called to this sub. to allow me to ask him a question.

Pilisburg down there. ject by the report of the bourd of supervising in- Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I withdraw Mr. HUBBARD, or lowa. I desire to ask the Bpectors, who have this whole matler in charge. it for that purpose.

gentleman from Illinois how many of the steamThey report to the Secretary of the 'Treasury, (1 Mr. GANSON. I presented a memorial from boats navigating the upper Mississippi pass by will read it for the benefit of my friend from Ver- the local inspectors of Buffalo, and I want to know Galena, inoni,) that “wo assistant inspectors for the dis- whether this relates to inspectors of that char

Mr. MOORHEAD. I wish to state that it is trict of New York and a new local board for the acter.

within my personal knowledge that the abolition pori of Galena, Illinois, will be required, in ad- Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. It does not. of the board of inspectors at Wheeling has caused dition to those already authorized by law."

Mr. SCHENCK. I should like to know what greal inconvenience, as the inspectors ar PittsI will state to my friend from Vermont why is the reason for providing that these inspectors burg have had to leave their business there and this additional board is necessary. The districi shall be located at Galena, Illinois. May not go to Wheeling. I hope the board at Wheeling of the supervising inspector for that districi ex- there be other points where more vessels arrive will be restored. tends from the mouth of the Illinois river to the and depart than at Galena?

Mr. BROWN, of West Virginia. I hope the Red river of the north and the northern boundary Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. If my friend gentleman from Illinois will allow an amendment of the country. The law of last session requires from Ohio had been present when I made my to that effect to be offered. It is right and just the inspection of all ferry-boats, all low-boals, statement I think that he would have been satis- that we should have one board of local inspectors and all tug-boats; and it has been found utterly fied without asking the question. The district in that State. The idea that the people of West impossible for the supervising inspector of that extends from the mouth of the Illinois river lo Virginia must go to Pittsburg to have their boats district to inspect all these classes of boats. St. Paul and above. Galena is about midway be- inspected is proposterous. And in regard to the question of economy, let tweeu.the two boundaries of the district.

Mr. WASHBURNE, of Winois. I demand me say to my friend froin Vermont that the law Mr. SCHENCK. I ask the gentleman whether

the previous question. of lasi session provided for a very heavy inspec- the inspector is required to make his headquarters Mr. BROWN, of West Virginia. Then I hope tion fee; so that this steamboat law, which for- at any particular place, or whether he is merely the bill will le voted down. merly cust the Government $80,000 per annum, appointed for the district? Here it is provided Mr. GARFIELD. I would inquire of the genhas, by the legislation initiated by the Commii- thäl these inspectors shall be located at specified lleman where Gilena is situated ? tee on Commerce al the last Congress and at the places. I desire to know from the chairman of Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I can tell last session of this Congress, been made almost a ine Committee on Commerce whether this bill the gentleman; it is in the third congressional self-sustaining nachine. I addressed a lellerlothe harmonizes with the law in other cases,

district of Illinois; it is the residence of the greatest Secretary of the Treasury asking the amount of Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. It does. The military hero of the age, General Grant. (Laughfees which had been received under this law. He inspectors are appointed for districts, and they ter.) i demand the previous question. replies that he cannot tell, because the returns have to be located somewhere.

Mr. MALLORY. I ask ihe gentleman to have not been received. Bui I have a memorial Mr. SCHENCK. The gentleman does not on- yield to me a moment to offer an amendment. from the inspectors of the city of Bufiulo, in which swer my question. Inspectors are appointed for Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I cannot. they state that in that port alove the fees which districts, but the gentleman's bill goes further, Mr. MALLORY. I ask that the bill may be they luve returned into the Treasury amount to and provides that these inspectors shall be located read again. I was not in when this matter came more than ten thousand dollars. at Galena.

up; and the gentleman from Ilinois is acting very Mr. MORRILL. I would like to ask the gen- Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. My friend unkindly. aloman from Illinois whether the salary at Butfalo does not seem to comprehend this matter. By The bill was again read.

Mr. MALLORY. Now I move that the bill Mr. WASHBURNE, of Minois. The Com- Also, that the Senate had passed a bill (S. No. be laid on the table.

mittee on Commerce have had but one morning. || 212) for the relief of Henry A. Bigham, in which Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Will the The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks otherwise. be was directed to ask ihe concurrence of the gentleman from Kentucky allow me to ask bim The committee was called yesterday and it was House, a question? Does he desire to have the bill post- called again to day. Yesterday the committee Also, that the Senate had adhered to their fourth poned for the purpose of having it printed ?" was regularly called, and it reporied one bill. To- amendment to the bill of the House (No. 620) to

Mr. JOHNSON, of Pennsylvania. I object to day it would have been called by unanimous con- supply deficiencies in the appropriations for the all discussion,

sent but the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Hol- service of the fiscal year ending ihe 30th of June, Mr. MALLORY. I asked the gentleman from MAN) objected. Then the Chair proceeded to call 1865, disagreed 10, and such disagreement adhered Illinois to withdraw the demand for the previous the regular order of business, which was in re- to by the House. question to enable me lo offer an amendment. He lation to providing that the heads of executive

CABINET OFFICERS IN CONGRESS. declined, and now let the bill meet its fate. Departments may occupy seals on the floor of ihe Tlie yeas and nays were ordered. House of Representatives. Thereupon, upon the

The Housc then proceeded to the consideration The question was put; and it was decided in the motion of the gentleman from Illinois, that was of the motion to reconsider the vole by which the affirmative-yeas 69, nays 58, not voting 55; as passed by for the present, and the bill in relation joint resolution of the House (No. 214) to profollows:

to the ship-canal was postponed, and then the vide that the heads of Executive Departments may YEAS-Messrs. William J. Allen, Ancona, Angustus Committee on Commerce was called in its regu- occupy seals on the Avor of the House of RepreC. Baldwin, Jolin D. Baldwin, Blair, isliss, Boyd, Broomall, lar order. The Chair, therefore, thinks that they

sentatives was recommilled in the select commitWilliam G. Browli, Clay, Cox, Cravens, llenry Winter Davis, Thomas T. Davis, Dawson, Deming, Denison, Don

have had two morning hours, although very short tee upon that subject, and upon which Mr. Cox nelly, Eden, Edgerton, Eldridge, Frank, GUT-011, Garfield, ones on ench day.

was entitled to the noor. Griswold, Tale, Tarding, Uarrington, berrick, Hutchins, Mr. WILSON. I desire to say to my friend Mr. COX. Mr. Speaker, the House is under Philip Johnson, William Johnson, Kalbfleisch, Keruan, from Ohio that the bills which I propose to in- obligations to the committee for presenting this Kiny, Knox, Law, Lazear, Long, Mallory, McAllister, McClurg, McDowell, William H. Miller, Moorhead, James

troduce are to be referred to committees that will measure. Greal good and no harm will come from R. Morris, Morrison, Nelson, Noble, John O'Neill, Pen- meel 10-morrow, and I desire to introduce them a free and full discussion of the diseribution of the dleton, Radiord, Samuel J. Randall, Robinson, Rogers, for reference merely.

powers of the Government. In all innovations James S. Rollins, Schenck, Scofield, Smith, Williain G.

Mr. COX. I have no objection to yield if de- ihe burden is upon those who propose them lo Sterle, Stevens, Stiles, Strouse, Tracy, Wadsworth, Wheeler, Chilton A. White, Joseph W. White, aud Winbate does not arise.

show their utility. The committee liave proposed fiel-09.


to change the machinery of our Government in NAYS-Messrs. James C. Allen, Alley, Allison, Arnold,

two ways: first, that the heads of Deparıments Baxter, Beaman, Blow, Boutwell, Brook-, James S. Brown, Mr. WILSON, by unanimous consent, intro- shall have at all times the right to occupy seats Chanier, Ambrose W. Clark, Cobb, Cole, Dawes, Dixon, Drigg-, Eckley, Eliot, Grimell, Benjamin G. Harris, lligby,

duced a bill to provide for the publication of the and participate in debate upon all matters relating Hooper, A-ane W. Hubbard, Jolin 11. Hubbard, lugersoll,

opinions of the Attorney Generals of the United to the business of their Departments; secondly, Orlando Kellogy, Longycar, Marvin, McBride, Meindoe, Siales; which was read a first and second time,

that on two days of the week they shall attend the Samuel F. Miller, Daniel Morris, Ainos Myers, Norton, and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. House and give information on all questions subOdell, Charles O'Neill, Orth, Patterson, Perham, Pike, Price, William A. Randall, Alexander II. Rice, Johu II.


mitted to them. Rice, Edward H. Rollins, Ross, Shannon, Sloan, Smith

Mr. WILSON also, by unanimous consent,

The details of legislation to carry out these ers, Spalding, Stuart, Thayrr, Townsend, Upson, Elihu B. Wasliburue, Williun B. Washburn, and Wilson--58. introduced a bill to aid in the construction of a

views I shall not consider. If the principle bu NOT VOTING - Messrs. Amen, Anderson, Ashley, railroad in the Siate of lowa, for the purpose of adopted the measures will soon lose any strin, Baily, Blainc, Brandegee, Freeman Clarke, Coffroihi, Cresfacilitating the construction of the Union Pacific

gency by amendments, and the coalescence of the well, Dumoni, Englisht, Farnsworth, Finck. Gooch. Grider, Jall, Charles M. Harris, Tolman, Hotchkiss, llulburd, railroad; which was read a first and second time,

executive and legislauve will become, as in Eng. Jenckes, Julian, Kasson, Kelley, Francis W. Kellogy, and referred to the select committee on the Pacific

land, as periecl as the institutions of each country Knapp, Le Blond, Litdejobu, Loan, Marey, McKinney, railroad.

will permit. Middleton, Morrill, Leonard Myers, Perry, Pomeroy, Mr. PENDLETON. I now call for the reg- I propose to discuss the question in the follow. Pruyn, Scott, Starr, John B. Steele, Sweat, Thomas, Vilni Valkenburgli, Voorhees, Ward, Webster, Whaly, 'Wil

ular order of business, and object to everything || ing order: first, to answer ihe report; second, to liams, Wilder, Windom, Benjamin Wood, Fernando else.

show the dangers of this innovation. Wood, Woodbridge, Worthington, and Yeaman-55.

Mr. DRIGGS. I ask the gentleman to allow

1. To answer the report. Under this head I con. So the bill was laid on the table. me to introduce a bill for reference.

sider, first, the constitutionality of the measure. Mr. PENDLETON. I now demand the regur Mr. PENDLETON. I would be glad to yield

The commiitee entertain no doubt on this head. lar order of business.

to all these gentlemen, but I am bound to the There is no provision against it in the Constitus The SPEAKER. The regular order of busiCommittee of Ways and Means not to yield any

lion, and it is regarded as a part of that power ness is the motion to reconsider the vote by which more.

by which "each House may determine the rules the bill of the House, No. 214, was recoinmitted


of its proceedings.” I will not contest our power to the select committee. Before that subject is The SPEAKER. The Committee on Military

to pass the resolution. But the discussion of its taken up the Speaker asks unanimous consent to

merits will show that its passage will be an infrac. Affairs was discharged yesterday from the furpresent several executive communications.

tion of the spirit if not of the letter of the Con. ther consideration of the subject of trade between

stitution, which provides that “no person holdEXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. the rebellious and loyal States heretofore referred

ing any office under the United States shall be a The SPEAKER, by unanimous consent, laid

to them, but that subject was not referred to the before the House a communication from the SecCommittee on Commerce. If there be no objec. || in office."

member of either House during his continuance retary of State transmitting, in compliance with tion, it will be referred to that committee.

The same reasoning upon which this clause the act of August 26, 1842, a report of the inci

No objection was made.

of disqualification is founded should forbid the dental expenses of the State Department for the


admission of the Cabinet into Congress, either to year ending June 30, 1864; which was laid on the

Mr. McBRIDE. Allow me to make an inquiry || debate or answer inquiries. I shull show that table, and ordered to be printed.

of the Chair in reference to the order of business. there is a stronger reason for the rejection of this Also, a communication from the Secretary of House bill No. 691, to authorize and aid in the measure than for the rejection of the Cabinet the Treasury transmitting, in accordance with

construction of a railroad connecting the Pacific as members. That stronger reason is, that in the act of April 2, 1792, an account of the re- railroad in California with the Columbia river, in

case of membership they are liable to expulsion ceipts and expenditures of the United States Mint Oregon, and Pugel sound was postponed till this

and censure, responsible to their constituents, for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1864; which day.

who hold over them the rod of public opinion, was laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. The SPEAKER. It was postponed until

backed by suffrage; while in the other case they Also, a communication from the War Deparl- || Thursday, the 26th of January, and it will come

arc responsible to no one for their official tenure ment in relation to the appointment of commis- up in regular order.

but the Chief Executive, whose subordinates and sioners to award compensation to the owners of Mr.MCBRIDE. I understand that it was made servants they are. A hundred censures cannot slaves enlisted as volunteers; which was laid on the special order.

move them from their places. So long as they the table, and ordered to be printed.

The SPEAKER. It was not made a special

suit the President they can contemn the severest COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE. order, according to the Calendar.

criticism and loudesi anathemas of Congress.

When this clause of disqualitication for memMr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. As the re


bership was adopted it met with no opposition in ports made by the Committee on Commerce this A message from the Senate, by Mr. Forney, the convention. So says Judge Story. He adds morning were by unanimous consent, of course its Secretary, informed the House that the Senate further: this morning is not considered as one day charged had passed bill of the House No. 621, making to that committee.

It has been decmed by one convention an admirablo appropriations for the support of the Military

provision against venalily, though not perhaps stifficiently The SPEAKGR. The Chair will state that the Academy for the year ending the 30th of June, guarded to prevent cvasion. And it lias been elaborately committee was called in its regular order, after 1866, with amendments, in which he was directed vindicated by another with uncoin inoil earnestness." first postpoving the bill in reference to the ship- to ask the concurrence of the House.

-Story, page 310, sec. 440. canal. The committee, however, have had but Also, that the Senate had passed without amend- And here it may be proper to say that the comtwo fractions of morning hours, yesterday and ment bill of the House No. 659, making appro- mittee have invoked the wisdon and learning of to-day, and if there is no objection the Chair will priations for the service of the Post Office Depart- Judge Story to sustain their views. This is a mis. consider the cominittee entitled to another morning ment during the fiscal year ending the 30th of take. The committee have quoted only the argu. hour.

June, 1866; and bill of the House No. 659, to ments presented in favor of that side. Hesiales, Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Speaker, I must require | amend an act entitled “ An act to provide wirys with equal point, the arguments upon the other, that the Committee on Commerce be called in or- and means for the support of the Government, leaving the decision to the judgment of the student. der, and that it shall not be called again until the and for other purposes," approved the 30th of

The committee have not dove justice to the ques. other committees have had their turn. June, 1864.

tion in thus partially presenting the case. I will supply the omission by citing the omitted por- the practice, so deleterious when secret, will lose So far, then, as the Congress require informations:

its deformity when open. Executive influence tion and advice from the Departments, they can al“ The other part of the clause, which disqualifies persons upon legislation is wrong, dangerous, and sub- ways obtain it, perhaps in over-abundance. If it holding any office under the United States from being versive of freedom; it exists, but is now covert come not in the graces of oratory it will come in members of either House during their continuance in office, has been still more universally applauded; and has been

and dangerous; let us make it open, bold, and the more pithy, and, in this age, more useful, and, vindicated upon the highest grounds of public policy. It authoritative, and it will be innoxious.

in this House, indispensable, form of writing and is doubtless founded in a deference to State jealousy and If the means were constitutional and it would printing. If the ordinary reports of the Departa sincere desire to obviate the fears, real or iinaginary, that dignify and purify the executive influence, I ments and the answers to resolutions of inquiry the General Government would obtain an undue preference over the State governments. It has also the strong recom

might vote for it. But I cannot see that because are not sufficient, will not these informal interincndation that it prevents any undue influence from office, you increase the opportunities of executive con- views of members and committees with the heads either upon the party himself or those with whom he is tact with the legislature you diminish the conta- of Departments answer every purpose ? associated in legislative deliberations.'

gion and the fatal corruption as its consequence, If the object of the measure is information, we And after the passage quoted by the commit- Because you debar the Cabinet member from a have the media now. If it be to influence action, tee, he proceeds to say:

vote do you prevent his influence in the House? that influence must be for good or evil. If for “Such is the reasoning by which many enlightened If you require open debate do you stop secret in- | good, always and inevitably, Congress is utterly statesmen have not only been led to doubı, but even lo deny trigue? Did noi Walpole debate and corrupt the inconsequential and insignificant-a registering the value of this constitutional disqualification. And even House? Did not the younger Pill defy Parlia- body, a contemptible and expensive nonentity, the most strenuous advocates of it are compelled so far to

ment even in debate, and coerce the Commons? adınit its force as to concede that the measures of the ex

worse than the fifth wheel to a coach.

For what, ecutive government, so far as they call within the imme. The whipper-in on a division, the manager of the | sir, is the need of Congress, if all the recommendiate department of a particular office, migilt be more di- House, were not these incident to open and au- dations of the Executive are to be invariably folrectly and fully explained on the floor of the House. Still, thorized discussion? The Government felt more lowed? Better dispense with all legislation, or however, the reasoning from the British practice has not beeu deemed satisfactory by the public; and the guard in

interest in the result of the vote, because it had make our system conform to those cited by the terposed by the Constitution has been received with gen- been called directly to the bar. It stopped at no committee from Europe and South America, eral approbation, and has been thought to have worked means to secure its triumph. The threats of the where, except in England, (owi to peculiar cirwell during our experience under the national Govern

third George again and again to leave the island cumstances hereafter considered,) the Legislature ment. Indeed, the strongly inarked parties in the British Parliament, and their consequent dissensions, have been

and to place those under the royal ban who voted is the tool of the ministry as the ministry is too ascribed to the non-existence of any such restraints; and against his measures, was the accompaniment of often the tool of the monarchy. If the Cabinet the progress of the influence of the Crown, and the sup- the fiercest wrangles of Parliament and the most influence is generally good and only exceptionably posed corruptions of legislation, liave been by some writers traced back to the same original blemish. Whether these

open arraignment of ministers. I admit that if | vicious, we have the means already of reaching inferences are borne out by historical facts is a matter upon

the influence of the Executive is desirable in our its valuable suggestions, and I do not propose to which different judgments may arrive at different conclu- legislation, it should be open, declared, and au- enlarge its sphere of evil. But if the influence of sions; and a work like the present is not the proper place thorized, rather than secret, concealed, and un- the Executive is generally evil, corrupting to both to discuss them."--Slory, pages 313, 314.

authorized. But this resolution facilitates the Cabinet and Congress, aggrandizing unduly one So that we may draw from these citations, secrecy and authorizes the influence which we department of power to the detriment of another, these reasons against the measure proposed by deprecate and should prevent.

and consequently to the derangement of our systhe committee: first, extreme party dissensions, Fourth, as to the information to be derived tem, and if it is only occasionally good, then we owing to the presence of the executive agents in from the admission of the Cabinet, and the cases bound not only to prevent but to guard with the House; second, the progress of the undue in- cited by the committee.

extreme jealousy every attempt to encroach with fluence of the Executive; third, the corruptions Two objects are sought by this measure, say such influence upon the province of the Legislaof the Legislature; fourth, a well grounded jeal- | the committee: first, general debate; second, in- ture, ousy of Federal predominance over State govern- formation from Cabinet officers. Both are included In the remarks which I have submitted, 1 meet ments. But to me the principal reason is the un- in the second specification. If the object were the two propositions of the committee as elabodue and corrupting influences of such a connec- only information, we have the means provided rated by them: first, that Congress should avail tion upon both Cabinet and Congress. If this already.. Conferences by committees with the itself of the best possible means of information reasoning be found valid, then the Constitution Departments furnish one medium. The citations in relation to measures; for do we not have at our jg violated in its essential spirit by the disturb- appended to the report of the committee show that command all that we could get by the presence of ance of that healthful equilibrium between the this is almost always a prerequisite to the matur- the Cabinet in' the House? Second, as to the legislative and executive which it was designed ing of measures. In the cases cited on pages character of the influence of the Executive upon by the framers of the Constitution to avoid. But 11, 12, 13, et seq. of the report, the complaints the Legislature; for have I not shown that this of these points I will speak particularly hereafter. were, not that the Departments would not furnish measure will not prevent it being secret, corrup

Second, the practice and precedenis appealed | information or recommend measures, but that in tive, or unauthorized ? to by the committee.

those particular instances the information was not Fifthly, a few words as to the argument ab inThe commillee appeal to legislation and prac- definite or the recommendation made in writing, convenienti. The committee somewhat anticipate tice to the law of 1787-authorizing the head of But the debates in those cases showed that such this objection. They say (page 5) that "it has the Treasury to make report, in person or in information and recommendation were easily ob- || been said that the time of the Secretaries would writing, to either branch. Because of these pre- tained. In the cases of the legal tender and be so engrossed that they could not attend to the cedents they regard the power as unquestioned. Il gold bill, the debate brought out the letters of the discharge of their other duties. If this shall prove The fact that this law and custom, used in 1789 Secretary of the Treasury. In the case of the true, they must have more assistance.It is anby the Departments of State and of the Treasury, || loan bill, the instance cited is most unfortunate swer enough to appeal to members as to the conand yet unrepealed, has fallen into desuetude, is as an argument for this measure. The appear- dition of their own business now before the Derather evidence that not only has the guard of the ance of the Secretary and Assistant Secretary of partments. They are nearly all behind. We Constitution been regarded as salutary as against the Treasury upon the floor of the House had the must have the ear of the heads of Departments; membership, bul, by "general approbation,' effect of subverting the judgment of the House. and if they are compelled to attend here, and take against the entrée of ihe Cabinet into the debates The gentleman from Pennsylvania had moved part in debates, what time will they have, even and deliberation of Congress. At least, as Judge that the interest of the bonds should be paid in with the aid of the assistants we have already Story says, the reasoning from the British prac

It was carried by twenty-one major- given, to attend to Department business? But I tice has not been deemed satisfactory to the pub- || ily: When reported to the House, lo! it was leave to others the elaboration of this argument. lic. In fact, as I shall show, the British experi-defeated 59 to 81, a change of forty-two on a I say nothing now about their appearance and ence led to their exclusion here. And yet "the question as to which the House were informed | speaking here delaying our own labor. That rules," say the committee, "now recommended of the facts, as to which the executive officers would appropriately come under the argumentum are almost identical with those of the British House | only expressed their wish and opinion! What ad misericordiam, [laughter,] for it would be inof Commons." The gentleman from Vermont humiliation! No undue arguments were used; tolerably irksome to have their explanations and [Mr. MORRILL) has most thoroughly answered no bribe or corruption is charged. Simply their || speeches here on all questions raised. ihis portion of the report. If, however, the spirit presence on the floor turned the heads of forty- 11. I mignt rest the argument here. But I believe of the Constitution is not to be regarded, the in- two statesmen! If their casual visit and the ex- this measure is fraught with great danger. le is expediency of the measure will be sufficiently | pression of a wish without argumentation could a step toward the absorption of the power of Conapparent.

work such wonders, what sort of a body would gress by the Executive, and therefore a step not Third, as to the influence of the Executive upon we become with the presence of the Cabinet here to be countenanced either at this time or at any the Legislature. The committee state that the twice a week for information and at all times for other time. object of the resolution is to influence legislation debate and influence? The other instance cited is On this head I consider its effect, first, on State by the Executive. They would recognize that in- senatorial, on the bounty question. The only | rights. If, as I assume, this measure increases fluence and give it authority. Assuming that such trouble in that case was that the chairman of the the executive influence and absorbs the legislaan influence will, does, and must exist, they pro- Military Committee had missed seeing the Secre- tive, it tends to aggrandize and consolidate power pose to make it open, official, and honorable, in- tary of War, and failed to possess himself

of any in the Federal Executive, and makes the 'array stead of secret, unrecognized, and liable to abuse. authentic letter or recommendation of the Depari- || against the States much more formidable, and This sort of argument would find its par value in ment. No one doubted but he might have re- subtracts from them their proper influence in the an argument like the following: robbery in the ceived the information. The points were, not economy of our Government. Some of the comshape of burglary will exist; it is all wrong, but that the recommendation was not made, but, as mittee are looked upon as strong defenders of the it exists; let us recognize the fact, and by law Senator CLARK said, (page 17,) the information reserved rights of the States. They look with make it open, honorable, and authoritative, in- had not been asked for, and, as Senator Grimes apprehension on the encroachments of the Fed. stead of secrel, nocturnal, and liable to be abused; I said, there had been no action of the Administra- eral Government upon the ungranted domain of let us authorize highway robbery as something tion on the subject, or at least no unity of action. the States. It is for such that Judge Story's bold and romantic. Or, prostitution exists, secret Afterward, the letter of Mr. Stanton was read, || argument is emphatic, when he says inat "the and dangerous; let us license and legalize it, and and the difficulty properly obviated.

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