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single instance of impropriety of moral conduct has occurred among the pupils since the institution was established.

The young men are under the immediate eye of the principal and normal master for twelve hours daily, and the rest of their time is devoted to study.

Preliminary Correspondence relating to Caernarron

Training Institution.

Caernarvon, 15 March 1852. I beg to transmit to you herewith a memorial from the committee of the Caernarvon Training Institution, which I request you will have the goodness to lay before the Lords of the Committee on Education, at their next meeting.

I have the honor to be, &c.,
(Signed) H. P. MANLEY,

Secretary To the Secretary,

Committee of Council on Education.

To the Right Honourable the Lords of the Committee of Council

on Education, The respectful Memorial of the Committee of the Training Institution

of Caernarvon Showeth, That this Institution was established in the year 1846, since which period seventy masters have been trained and appointed to National schools in the dioceses of Bangor and Saint Asaph.

That in the year 1848 the attention of the Welsh Education Committee of the National Society was called to the humble efforts of its promoters to supply the grievous lack of duly qualified masters in North Wales, when, through their liberality, a clerical instructor was appointed, the Rev. B. J. Binns, A.B., at present the principal of the institution (in addition to Mr. James Foster, the normal master). Since his appointment the institution has been more fully appreciated, and it now has every prospect of permanency, and of greatly increased usefulness. (The report of the past year is respectfully enclosed.)

Your memorialists therefore pray, that to secure to this institution the

pecuniary benefits so liberally offered by your Lordships minutes, and enjoyed by all other similar institutions, your Lordships will be pleased to place it under inspection, so that the students may be submitted to an annual examination for certificates of merit, which your memorialists feel assured would act as a great stimulus to the pupils, and which they respectfully entreat your Lordships to grant as a measure of fairness and justice to one of the poorest though most peaceable and

loyal portions of Her Majesty's dominions. And your memorialists will ever pray, &c.,

(Signed) Thomas Thomas,

Vicar of Caernarvon,

Chairman of the Committee, H. P. MANLEY,

Secretary Caernarvon, 15 March 1852.

Committee of Council on Education,

Privy Council Office, Downing Street, SIR,

20 March 1852. I HAVE the honor to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 15th instant, with its enclosures.

I am directed to request your attention to the instructions to H.M. Inspectors of Schools printed at page 29, vol. i., of their Lordships minutes for 1850-1.

The Rev. Henry Moseley has been requested, in arranging his tour for the current year, to include the Caernarvon Training School in the number of those to be visited by him.

The Committee of Council have desired Professor Moseley to be so good as to make a preliminary report upon the institution, immediately after his visit in company with the inspector of the district, and after consideration of his report my Lords will be prepared to inform you of their decision upon the present application.

Professor Moseley may always be addressed by a letter directed to him at this office.

I have the honor to be, &c.

(Signed) R. R. W. LINGEN, H. P. Manley, Esq.,


Committee of Council on Education,

Privy Council Office, Downing Street, Sır,

2 September 1852. ADVERTING to a letter from this office, dated the 20th of March last, which I had the honour of addressing to you on the subject of an inspection of the Caernarvon Training School, I am now directed to enclose, for the information of your Committee, a copy of the Report made by Professor Moseley.

The Committee of Council learns with much interest the progress which has been made, with such very slender means, in the great work of training schoolmasters for employment in North Wales; and they are desirous of encouraging the labourers in so good a cause by every means consistent with the principles on which the public grant is administered. Professor Moseley suggests that, as conditions of the public assistance,

1. Better provision for lodging the students should be made; that
2. A vice principal, and that

3. An assistant master of method, should be appointed. With regard to the plan of lodging students in private houses, my Lords entertain very strongly the apprehensions which Professor Moseley states as to the degree in which it is probable that such a system can generally produce a class of men capable of elevating the habits of the peasantry from which they are themselves drawn, and into whose ranks they are to return. No one can have moved among the agricultural population in Wales without observing that their personal and domestic habits fall much below the standard which might have been expected from the intellectual acuteness that is generally evinced by them. Decency and cleanliness are not less consistent than the opposite qualities with coarse fare and hard lodging. In these latter respects, the introduction of a collegiate discipline for the students need cause no change ; but without some such discipline it is not apparent how the habits of home are to be corrected. It is well known how completely the system of private lodgings failed to answer the purposes of discipline in connexion with the Welsh grammar schools which preceded the establishment of the college at Lampeter. My Lords do not doubt that all these difficulties have presented themselves to your Committee, and that there has been the utmost anxiety on the part of that Committee to remedy evils and supply deficiencies. Their Lordships, however, are disposed to question whether any ground of hopeful assurance can be reached until the students are gathered within the walls of a college.

In whatever effect, therefore, my Lords may give to Professor Moseley's recommendations, they desire to express to your committee the strong opinion which they entertain of the importance of keeping the erection of suitable premises in view as an object to be accomplished, and to reserve to themselves a discretionary power of withdrawing, according to the report of Her Majesty's Inspectors, such provisional sanction as they may have given to the existing arrangements. My Lords would certainly be unable to hold out the prospect of continued assistance from the fund at their disposal, if Her Majesty's Inspector had a second time to report, that there were instances of students sleeping together, or occupying apartments imperfectly separated from those of the family in which they board.

Subject to these observations, and assuining for a moment the appointment of a vice-principal and third master, my Lords will direct an examination of students and other masters desirous of obtaining certificates to be held next Christmas at Caernarvon, and on account of such students as fulfil the usual conditions with respect to attainments and period of training will allow to the institution two-thirds of the ordinary grants; hoping that the occasion may soon be afforded of raising these grants to the full amount, and of adding to them the offer of Queen's scholarships, by the provision of a building suitable for the residence of students within its walls.

The salary of a vice-principal may in part be defrayed out of the grants to be allowed on the successful students, and an augmentation grant may be obtained towards procuring a third master, pursuant to the Minute of 6 August 1851. (Minutes 1851-2, vol. i. pp. 24 and 26-7.)

I have the honor to be, &c. H. P. Manley. Esq.

(Signed) R. R. W. LINGEN,

Committee of Council on Education,

Privy Council Office, Downing Street, SIR,

7 October 1852. With reference to the letter from this office dated the 2nd of September last, in which, under certain conditions therein stated, my Lords agreed to hold an examination of students and schoolmasters desirous of obtaining certificates of merit next Christmas at Caernarvon, I am directed to inform you, that my Lords have learnt with pleasure from Professor Moseley that the prescribed terms will in all probability be fulfilled. In the course, however, of arranging what Inspectors shall hold the several examinations of the same kind, which (one of the same series of papers being used) have to be provided for concurrently, their Lordships find themselves greatly straitened by the disproportion between the number of Inspectors at their disposal and the claims to be met.

You are doubtless aware, (from the Minutes of the Education Committee 1850-1, vol. i. p. 29,) that the Christmas examinations are to be distinguished from visits of inspection. Her Majesty's Iuspectors, in holding these examinations, have no duties to perform beyond those of superintendence while the candidates are at work, except so far as they have to make a report upon each candidate's ability to conduct the public instruction of a class of children.

According to precedent, the Christmas examination at Caernarvon would be held by one of Her Majesty's Inspectors appointed pursuant to the Order in Council dated 10 August 1840. The pre-occupation, however, of all the officers so appointed obliges my Lords to propose (subject to my letter of the 2nd of September last) to provide for the examination at Caernarvon in one of the following ways; and I am to request that you will inform me which of them would best meet the views of your Committee :

1. My Lords would instruct T. B. Browne, Esq., one of Her Majesty's Inspectors of workhouse schools, to supply the place of an Inspector appointed under the Order in Council of 10 August 1840. Mr. Browne is a member of the Church of England, and in the commission of the peace. You will find reports of his in each of the three enclosed volumes. His proposed employment is not strictly regular, and therefore my Lords could not think of directing it, except with the consent of your Committee. Should your committee consent, it must be equally understood, that my Lords must afterwards regard Mr. Browne's report (on the skill evinced by the candidates in teaching a class before him) to be in all respects as conclusive as if his attendance at Caernarvon had been regular.

2. That your students should attend for examination (i.e. so many of them as it is intended shall try for certificates) at Chester or Caernarthen.

3. 'That the examination shall be postponed until the Easter week in next year.

The next Christmas examination will begin on Monday the 13th of De. cember next.

I have the honor to be, &c. H. P. Manley, Esq.

(Signed) R. R. W. LINGEN. SIR,

Caernarvon, 9 October 1852. I am instructed by the committee of the training institution to acknowledge receipt of your favours of the 2nd ult. and 7th inst., and to express their sense of your courtesy in transmitttng a copy of Professor Moseley's Report.

This report, and the very full and explicit letter with which you favoured the committee, have been maturely considered by them, and the necessary steps taken to secure the services of a vice-principal and third master, so that the privilege of having the institution placed under inspection may be accorded to it by the Committee of Council.

Referring to your letter of the 7th instant, the committee desire me to express their preference for the first suggestion you make, nainely, that the examination should be held at Christinas by Mr. Browne, whose appointment as Inspector will be in every way satisfactory to the committee.

I have the honor to be, &c.
(Signed) H. P. MANLEY,

Secretary, The Secretary of the

Committee of Council on Education.


Caernarvon, 2 November 1852. The committee of the training institution beg the favour of your submitting to the Lords of the Committee of Council on Education the accompanying memorial, praying that Queen's scholars may be admitted to the institution.

I have the honour to be, &c.
(Signed) H. P. MANLEY,

Secretary, 'The Secretary of the

Committee of Council on Education.

To the Honourable the Lords of the Committee of Council on Education. The respectful Memorial of the Committee of the Caernarvon

Training Institution, Showeth, That your memorialists received with great satisfaction and thankfulness your Lordships favourable reply to the prayer of their memorial, conveyed to them by Mr. Lingen on the 7th of September last, consenting, under certain conditions, which your memorialists are making arrangements to comply with, to place the institution under Government inspection, and to allow to such students as fulfil the usual conditions two thirds of the ordinary grants.

Your memorialists presume again to address your Lordships on the subject of Queen's scholars, and very respectfully to impress upon your Lordships their matured opinion that should Queen's scholars from Wales be placed in English training institutions their services will be lost to the principality, through the superior inducements offered and the higher salaries paid to National schoolmasters in England. Your memorialists, to meet, as far as in their power, the conditions named in Mr. Lingen’s letter of the 7th September on the subject of Queen's scholars, have made arrangements with the Rev. B. J. Binns, the principal of the institution, to board and lodge them : in his own residence.

Your memorialists hope that this arrangement will be satisfactory to your Lordships, and that the privilege of receiving Queen's scholars may be conçeded to the Caernarvon Training Institution. And your memorialists will ever pray, &c.

(Signed) Thomas THOMAS,


H. P. MANLEY, Cuernarvon, 1 November 1852.



Committee of Council on Education,

Privy Council Office, Downing Street, SIR

5 November 1852. ADVERTING to the memorial contained in your letter of the 2nd instant, I am directed to inform you that my Lords cannot consent to subject the pupil-teachers in Welsh schools to any special restrictions as to the field of their future service.

The result aimed at can be reached only by encouragement and moral influence. Prohibition would defeat the object of them, by excluding superior candidates, or by retaining unwilling labourers. The schoolmaster's office requires both ability and devotion.

The means to be relied upon are such as tend to render the training schools in the principality more attractive in respect of cheapness and efficiency. Much also may be done by the friends of education in their respective neighbourhoods, to raise the schoolmaster's position in respectability and consideration, if not also in emolument; much also by the selection of such scholars to apprentice as offer the promise of sober characters, open to impression of duty towards those whom they have peculiar means of benefiting, i.e., in this instance, their own countrymen.

It is by influences such as these that my Lords look to see the Minutes they have framed for the promotion of education generally in Great Britain adapted to the peculiar circumstances of the principality,

Considering the present position of the training school at Caernarvon, my Lords are not disposed to increase the offer which they have made for the present year. It would not be consistent with their Lordships practice to grant Queen's scholarships on the terms proposed (that the Queen's scholars should board in the private house of the principal). It must be understood to be a condition of this form of assistance (as was stated at the end of the letter from this office of 2d September last), that the provision of a building suitable for the residence of students within its walls should be contemplated:

I have the honor to be, &c. H. P. Manley, Esq.

(Signed) R. R. W. LINGEN.

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