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26TH Cong.... 1st Sess.

Appointment of Chaplains-Mr. Crabb.

Ho. or REPS.

I know. In all his intercourse with foreign na- may have been so severely lashed as to make

APPOINTMENT OF CHAPLAINS. tions, I have seen him careful and vigilant in him break entirely loose from the coach. In that guarding, the national character, interest, and case the danger is that he may be so maddened REMARKS OF HON. G. W. CRABB, honor. ”In administering our internal affairs, the with rage as to injure himself. I recollect an ocbest energies of his mind have been constantly di- currence which took place in Virginia some five

OF ALABAMA, rected to the prosperity of our whole country, or six years ago. I was traveling in the mail IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, That he should be entirely free from error could couch; we had stopped in a village late at night

December 27, 1839. not be expected, but that he intends all his meas. and set out very early in the morning, and were On the motion to reconsider the vote of the House concurures for the general welfare, I confidently believe to travel about twenty miles to another village to ring in the resolutions of the Senate proposing the apand affirm.

breakfast. We traveled on very quietly and safely pointment of Chaplains. The Senator commenced his remarks by saying, until we reached the half-way house, where an ex- Mr. CRABB said that he could not have an. in application to myself, that this was all a Quix- | change of coachmen and horses took place. So

ticipated, when he made the motion to reconsider otic proceeding. This comparison and remark soon as we set out from there one of the lead horses

the resolution from the Senate proposing the aphas been so often used by everybody that it has became very restive and fractious; the coachman

pointment of Chaplains for that body and the lost all its point, and its repetition has ceased to applied the lash with great severity; the horse House that it would give rise to so much discusbe the evidence of talent or genius. He says I became more furious, and at last broke loose from sion. He had made the motion to reconsider, have come into the Senate with two commissions. the coach, taking with him a part of what are now not because he was opposed to the appointment That is true, so far as relates to my declining to called “ lead bars,” but which, when you and I of Chaplains; on the contrary, he fully approved accept the first commission, and obtaining a sec- were young, Mr. President, and more conversant the object of the resolution from the Senate, but ond, upon a second election. But, what is there with such things than we are now, were called he had done so at the request of his colleague, in this to disturb the Senator from New York? "swingle-trees;" the coach was a very fine one, (Mr. Lewis,] who had himself submitted the same It cost him neither labor nor trouble; that fell upon and remained uninjured. We sent back to the motion for the accommodation of the gentleman myself and friends. I had constitutional scruples || half-way house, procured another horse, and from Georgia, (Mr. Cooper,] but, not having as to the propriety of my taking a seat under the moved on very safely to the breakfast stand. But

voted in the majority, was pronounced by the first election; I resigned, and was reelected. Even before we reached that place what do you think Chair incapable to submit such a motion in the if I were mistaken, such respect was due, I think, we saw? The horse that had broken loose from

present case. But, although he could not have to my own views, as to have precluded a reference the coach had broken his neck and was lying forseen the consequences of his motion, and al. to it here; and such has been the course of every dead by the wayside. I lectured the coachman though it was the result, as far as he himself member of the Senate (although I know some of for exposing the lives of passengers by running entertained any feeling on the subject, of that them entertain an opinion different from mine) such a refractory and unmanageable horse in his courtesy which he hoped ever to be inclined to until the Senator from New York took his seat coach. He excused himself by declaring that he

extend to any gentleman on that floor, he could not Among us. Those who scruple at nothing may was an old stage-horse, and worked as quietly say, with other gentlemen, that he regretted the reproach those who entertain scruples; those who and safely for several years as any horse that motion had been made. No, sir, (said Mr. C.,) feel them seldom will. I will state my views a ever wore harness; that it was only within a few there is much reason to be pleased that the ques: little more at large upon this subject. I place but weeks past that he had become restive and unruly;

tion has come up. The resolution had passed little value on a commission, except so far as it that the change was altogether unaccountable; but silently through ihe House, and could be looked is evidence of what had preceded it, that is, the one thing was certain, he would do no more mis

upon by the country as a mere compliance with prefavorable opinion of my countrymen--that I highly || chief.

cedent and form; there was nothing of substance prize. I will tell that honorable Senator how 'í I think I now see, by what is said by that Sena- in its adoption. But now it had, by the course obtained my first commission; the second was cor why it is that the present Chief Magistrate pursued by him, given rise to a most interesting only a matter of course, It was not by solicita- has ceased to be as great a favorite in New York discussion-one that does high honor to both the tion; no expression of a desire to be elected had

as he was formerly. Views are ascribed to him hearts and heads of the participants in the debate; escaped me. No, sir, I did not traverse the State which he never entertained. His opinions are and therefore, instead of being deterred, had he and make speeches denouncing my old friend; I proved upon him by expressions which the Sena- foreseen what had transpired, it would have furformed no new political alliances; it was not the ior attributes to certain people in the city of New nished him an additional motive for submitting effect of a new-born zeal displayed in behalf of York, whom he calls Loco-focos; and this is the his notion. If there was a majority in the House, my ancient political enemies. I am here upon kind of logic by which he establishes his facts. or indeed, he would say, if there was a single inthe free, unsought suffrages of my old political | The Loco-focos had resolved that all banks dividual, opposed to the adoption of the resolu, friends and associates. I will neither deny nor should be put down; they afterwards voted for tion, he for one, desired to see an opportunity disguise the high gratification I experienced on Mr. Van Buren, therefore che conclusions drawn afforded for a plain manifestation of that oppogi. my late visit to Tennessee, where I only remained by the Senator is that the President is in fa- tion; if, on the other hand, there was, as he bea few days. When the old gray headed men who vor of putting down all banks. Or the Senator lieved there was, a majority favorable to the resohad stood by me for upward of thirty years ap- supposes that this might have been in consequence lution, that majority would record its judgment proached me with joy glistening in their eyes, of some private assurance given by the President. in a manner satisfactory to itself and obvious to: and, taking me by both hands, congratulated me That such assurance was given is only conjecture; the country. His motion, therefore, had had the upon my restoration to this honorable body; and

there is no evidence of it; whereas we have the effect of dispelling the mere form of the matter, when the young met me, in like manner, and opinions of the President explicitly declared in and of giving solidity and substance to it, and, jalked of their father's friendship and mine: oh! his public and official acts.

in addition to that, of drawing forth the opinions air, in this there was a luxury of feeling which I

The Senator concluded his remarks with a shout of honorable gentlemen in a most interesting and would not exchange for all the huzzas and plau- || for the hero of Tippecanoe. This we shall con- pleasurable discussion. dits which a renegade ever received from ten stantly hear until late in the coming autumn; but

He deemed it due to himself to say that when thousand tongues of his old enemies, now con- when Noveinber comes-that gloomy month,

he submitted the motion he did not know the prererted into friends. when Englishmen cut their throats, and Whigs

cise object of the honorable gentleman from GeorThe Senator from Pennsylvania [Mr. BUCHAN

lose all their anticipated triumphs—then it will gia, (Mr. COOPER,] for wliose accommodation he AN) and myself the other day expressed an opinbe a short tale, easily told, then all their joy will

had acted. He knew not but that gentleman deion against an exclusive metallic currency. How be changed into disappointment and grief; nor

sired to submit some salutury modification of the were we treated by the Senator from New York?

will any poet be needed to celebrate the deeds of Senate's resolution. It might have been that he But I will first remind him that I have been a long their hero. By a small change of names, it has al

desired to provide against compensation to the time in public life, and in the estimation of my ready been done by one of the best British poets:

Chaplains to be elected, thereby to conform the friends, must have “rendered the State some service," or I should not have been continued until

** * Charge! Crittenden, charge ! on! Tallmadge, on!"

aspirations of candidates for those offices more

nearly to the true spirit of that religion they pro

Were the last words of Harrison."this period; and I submit to all candid and reflect

fess to teach, which should ever be dispensed in ing men whether the language used by the Sena- Yes, sir, thus will end the political life of the he- the manner of its glorious Founder, without tor from New York can find a justification. What ro, recently adopted as the leader of the Opposi- money and without price.. This, he perceived is that language? He says he has no doubt that tion; physically, I hope he will live long to enjoy from the emotions around him, was thought by at present we entertain the opinions which we ex- the emoluments of the respectable and profitable | gentlemen to be impracticable; but he begged to press.

" But a few lashes from the coachman office he now fills, and to occupy that splendid differ in opinion, as he surely did, from gentle(meaning the President) will put us in the traces." mansion (not a log cabin) which he now inhabits. men on this point. He had known it done elseI would inquire whether this is a quotation from This will suit him better than the toils and trou- where, and believed there were in the city of Shakspeare, as the Senator the other day said of bles of a high political station, and, for the coun- Washington pious ministers enough who would the expression," Ingratitude more strong than try, it will be far better.

willingly take the labor on themselves without ," when applied to the President of I have finished the remarks I intended to make. pay or the hope of pecuniary reward from the the United States. I presume this is no quotation Not on my own accoont, but for my country, ! Government. from Shakspeare. That great judge of human should regret exceedingly to see any other disposi- This course he would favor if he saw any disnature never put into the mouths of his lowest tion made of these resolutions than their adoption. position to sustain him in it; but if the object characters such language in application to the chief | I do not mean that I should regret a modification could not be effected in that way he was nevermagistrate of a free people and the representatives in any form, provided the subject and objects be theless in favor of the appointment of Chaplains of sovereign States. But were it a quotation, can retained; that is all about which I feel any solici- to that body. The course he had suggested would he who uses a dagger excuse himself by the tude. I thank the Senate for the patient and con- doubtless obviate several objections urged to the pretext that he has borrowed it from another. tinued attention with which I have been heard in resolution. One was the constitutional objection Whether the Senator from New York speaks from defense of the report and the resolutions which, l of the gentleman from Georgia, that this House experience as to the application of the presiden- / by order of the special committee, 1 presented to possessed no power to appropriate money to comtial lash I know not. For anything I know her the consideration of this honorable body. pensate for such services as are performed by

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26TH CONG....1st SESS.

Independent Treasury-Mr. Wright.




Chaplains. He ventured to assert, also, that if his Treasury bill was before them, had voted for its propriety of his conduct upon that and all other suggestion were acted on, it would remove one of passage. Had he (Mr. T.) been similarly situ- occasions when he acted here. Those who were the objections of his friend from Louisiana, [Mr. || ated, he would have felt it his duty to regard the then Senators, and were present, saw and heard, Garland.) In that event there would be no expressions of public sentiment, and have acted and could judge. Upon their judgments he was party aspirants seeking for the office of Chaplain. | differently.

willing to rest the matter. To them, and to them for the sake of the salary, but they would have That his colleague was the only representative only, was he amenable for his course; and he clergymen officiating there in that holy office un- of his Slate for so long a period was not his (Mr. would now tell his colleague, as he had told him der the impulses alone of a pure spirit of Christi- || T.'s) fault. The political friends of his colleague upon a former occasion, that he would not discuss anity.

had prevented an election at the last session of on this floor with him or any other man the proMr.C. said that it was true the present time was the Legislature. At the present it was known priety of his acts within these walls, touching any a very appropriate period of the year for every that a majority in both branches were opposed to matter transacted here when the complainant was one to retrospect his life, and to make confes- the sub-Treasury bill, and of course it was known not a member of the Senate. This, he hoped, sion of the evil deeds done in the body; and, did that they would send a Senator here who would would end this matter between him and his colhe deem the present place a proper one for such represent their sentiments and those of the people league here. If the gentleman chose to discuss an exposure, he doubted noi he should have as of the State on this subject. He regretted that this or any other topic touching his course and great a weight of sin to confess and ask pardon under these circumstances the bill should have conduct elsewhere, he was at liberty to do so. for as any other member on that floor. But, be- been hurried through this body before the State.The choice of the time, place, and manner were lieving that that was not a fit occasion for such a of New York had an opportunity of being heard. open to him. Elsewhere he might have rights in purpose, he should postpone it to a more con- He saw by the newspapers how it had been hur- the matter, and he presumed he would know how venient place, if not, like all other sinners, lo ried through on the last evening; and when the to exercise them wisely; but here he could have more convenient season.

Senator from Maryland, at a late hour in the afThe gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Wise] had ternoon, requested the Senate to adjourn, the As, however, his course upon the occasions alspoken of the good effects of prayer in that Hall usual courtesy on such occasions was denied him. || luded to have been characterized as precipitate at the commencement of each daily round of busi- He thought that such a refusal, under such cir- || and wanting in courtesy," it was due to himself, ness. He (Mr.C.) corroborated that gentleman's cumstances, was unprecedented in the annals of and to those who constituted the Senate at that experience, and added his own testimony to sup- the Senate.

time, that he should detail somewhat minutely tho port the assertion. The House, it was said, had Mr. BENTON said the Senator was mistaken; facts in relation to the action of the body upon grown no better of late years, and therefore it was there had been similar refusals, and under much the Independent Treasury bill during the present inferred that Chaplains were of no service. The less excusable circumstances. During the bank session, that his constituents and the country consequence attempted to be deduced is not a le- panic, when the Opposition had the majority in might know with how much propriety this charge gitimate inference from the premises. The House ihat Chamber, they attempted to break him down had been preferred. For this purpose he would may have grown worse, year after year, and day | by physical exhaustion, and to prevent it he was ask the indulgence of the Senate for a few moafter day, but not in consequence of its having compelled to resort to the use of expedients; and ments. a Chaplain, but rather, it might seem, in spite of this was done in a sultry day in June.

The Senate met and was organized on the 20 its chaplain, and of all that his best appeals to Mr. TALLMADGE. This occurred before his day of December last. Through the kindness of Heaven could effect.

time, and was probably during the exciting de- the honorable Senator who then occupied the Sir, it cannot be that this House will subvert at bates on the removal of the deposits; but he re- President's chair, and the indulgence of the Senthis day the ancient and well-founded custom of peated, that under the circumstances he regretted ate, he had been honored with the same place upelecting for itself a Chaplain. It is not to be be- ihat the bill was passed so precipitately. His on the standing committees of the body which he lieved that there is even a large portion of the mem- colleague was chairman of the committee who had had occupied for several previous sessions, bebers in favor of such an abrogation of the good the bill in charge, and had he requested some de- stowed upon him, as the then presiding officer example of all our predecessors; for, although lay on the bill it would have been granted, and he could testify, without solicitation from himself. is, perhaps, too true as to most of the Represente | would not have been thought chargeable with a This necessarily placed before the committee of atives here that they are sinners, which it is | seeming want of courtesy: His colleague was which he was a member the reference of that acknowledged is the case with the one now speak- aware of his election, and should he not have part of the annual message of the President which ing, yet it is equally true, in the language of the waited for his arrival here, so that his Legislature related to the finances of the country, and conhonorable gentleman from Virginia, (Mr. W18E,] and State should have had an opportunity of being sequently which related to the Independent Treasas applied io himself, that though we feel that we heard on the bill? Though these resolutions might ury bill. Thus situated, if it had been his object are vile sinners, yet we deny that we are not not have been passed at that period, it was per- to escape the influence of the powerful talents of Christians.

fectly well known they would pass, and this, it his collcague in opposition to the measure, the In conclusion, (said Mr. C.,) as all the advant- | might have been expected, would have had some charge should have been that he was dilatory, ages of my motion have been enjoyed, except influence on his colleague's course, and if he had and not“ precipitate;" for it was not until the alone the vote thereon, and as it is not at all prob- not waited for his (Mr. T.'s) arrival he might at 6th day of January, more than a month after the able there is a majority of the House favorable to least have waited for the expression of the senti- meeting of the Senate, that the bill was reported a reconsideration, and as he was not himself in ment of the Legislature of his State, especially as from the committee. On the following day, the favor of the reconsideration, he would at that time his colleague professes to be of that school of poli- 7th of January, the Legislature of his State was ask the permission of the House to withdraw it, ticians who recognize the right of instruction. to assemble, and he could not fail to know that unless some gentleman desired to record his vote These resolutions explain the objections to the among their first acts would be the election of against the resolution from the Senate.

sub-Treasury; they oppose it because its effect a Senator.

will be to produce two currencies in the country, By the direction of the committee, it became INDEPENDENT TREASURY.

one appreciated and the other depreciated. The his duty to report the bill; and by the same di

better currency of gold and silver coin will be for rection, he gave notice that its consideration would DEBATE IN THE SENATE,

the officers of the Government, and the baser, of be moved on that day week. The day arrived,

the depreciated bank paper, will be for the people. the 13th of January, and passed, and on the 14th Tuesday, February 25, 1840.

Add to this the docirines recently put forth by the bill was called up. Some discussion was had Mr. TALLMADGE presented certain resolu- those in the confidence of the Executive--that it is in reference to a postponement for two weeks to tions of the Legislature of the State of New York the policy of this Administration to bring down give time for absent Senators to arrive, and for adverse to the Independent Treasury bill, &c. the wages of labor in this country to a level with vacancies to be filled, and reference was made to

Mr. T. went at much length into an examina- that received by the paupers of Europe--and it the vacancy existing from his own State. He intion of the policy of the Administration, and the will be seen there is just cause of alarm to the formed the Senate that his action, thus far, had course of the Executive in relation to the sub- friends of our free institutions.

been under the order of the committee; that har. Treasury bill. When it was first broached in the Mr. WRIGHT said he should not have felt ing discharged their order, he now cheerfully subPresident's message, in 1837, it was the whole called upon to participate in this debate at all, had mitted the whole matter to the disposition of the subject of the message, and in the success of this not the remarks of his colleague, in relation to the Senate; that it would give him pleasure to have single measure was involved the success of all the passage of the Independent Treasury bill in this a colleague here before the bill should be finally measures of his Administration. He brought for- | body been made personal in their application to acted upon, and that he should now be in the ward no other proposition, and it was soon made himself; but as they had been so made it was ne- daily expectation of the news of an election and known that those who could not support this sub- cessary that he should make a more minute state- of the arrival of the person appointed to take his Treasury bill could not support his reëlection. ment of the facts, and of his own course in rela- seat in that body; that he did not consider it He (Mr. T.) was in a peculiar and trying situa- tion to the action of the Senate upon that measure, proper for him to urge any course upon the Sention. It was the first question of moment with than he had done upon a former occasion, when ate; nor should he, any further than to give his which he had differed with the President and the called out from the same quarter.

individual vote upon the question of postponesupporters of his Administration. The issue was Preliminarily, however, he was bound to con- ment. This course on his part called forth, at the made, and the people of New York decided against | fess, though he did not pretend to be very well time, expressions of approbation from a distinthe policy of the Administration. This was not schooled in questions of courtesy, it did appear to guished Senator of the Opposition, (Mr. CLAY, deemed conclusive, and they had again, in 1838, his mind as somewhat singular that he should be of Kentucky,] not now in his seat. The bill was and yet again in 1839, pronounced their condem- arraigned for want of courtesy as a Senator by under the consideration of the Senate daily, from nation of it. They had thus passed three several one who was not, at the time the transaction com- the 14th to the 17th of January, when the questimes on the policy of the Executive, and, after plained of occurred, either present or a member tion upon ils engrossment was taken. This was all these decisions, his colleague, (Mr. WRIGHT,] of the body. The Senate, as then constituted, Friday of the week, and after the question was who was the sole representative of that State on was the tribunal to which he was properly, as he declared, he, in violation of the wishes and feelthe floor of the Senate, when the Independent was willingly, responsible for the propriety or im- ings of a large portion of his friends, moved that 26TI Cong....IST Sess.

Independent Treasury-Mr. Tappan.




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when the Senate adjourn it adjourn to meet on ing and triumph, that he (Mr. W.) had, upon other than a mistake in the Senator, it was not Monday, instead of Saturday, thus deferring the those occasions, proposed to refer their differences true. He made no such declaration. But the question upon the final passage of the bill to the to their constituents, and not make them the sub- Senator from New York seems to think that his following week. The motion prevailed. He en- jects of debate and irritation here. He had done State is the whole Union, and that the Senate tertained not a single doubt then that he should so; and he certainly had not regretted the refer- should lay by, and not presume to transact any have a colleague present by the Monday to which It was one which his duty, not less than important business until the State of New York the Senate stood adjourned.

his feelings, prompted him to make, and it was was fully represented here. Now, he was as The Monday came, but not his colleague. The || made to those who would take cognizance of them willing as any Senator to admit the claim of that bill was again taken up, and the discussion upon without their consent.

great Slate to be treated with all proper respect; its final passage was continued from day to day, The Senator said their constituents had decided, but if both her Senators were not here to particiuntil Thursday, the 23d of January, when the thrice decided. Be it so. He had not questioned || pate in the transaction of the business of ihc naquestion was taken, and the bill passed. On that the assertion, nor was he to do so upon this occa- tion with the representatives of the twenty-five day an effort was made to adjourn the Senate to sion. He had not claimed to stand with the ma- other independent States, it is not the fault of this give further time for the Senator from Maryland | jority in his State, nor had he manifested any dis- || body, and he saw no reason why the business of Mr. MERRICK] to discuss the bill; and when the position, nor did he entertain any wish to dispute | this great Confederacy should be delayed on that question was taken upon the motion to adjourn, || ihe standing of his colleague in that particular.

But the Senator says “ he has been in he purposely left his seat, and did not vote. He felt no ambition to change places or positions. a peculiar and trying situation.' Has he indeed

Now, as io his conduct toward his colleague, || He said now, as he had said before, leave our been in a “ peculiar and trying situation?") and, who had chosen to make himself the author of public acts to the determination of those common for that reason, could not get here sooner? What these charges of “precipitancy” and “want of constituents, and not undertake to settle them brought him into that situation? What was its courtesy. On the evening of Saturday, the 25th here.

peculiarity? What was its trying nature? He of January, two days after the bill in question had His colleague seemed to manifest peculiar anx- has not told us; on that we are left to conjecture. finally passed the Senate, the mail from the North || iety to learn whether he would obey instructions But the Senator's course has not been hidden from brought him a letter, dated at the Astor House, in from the Legislature of the State; a doctrine, le public view it has been open to the world. Did the city of New York, on the 23d, the day on said, which originated in the school to which he ihe Senator suspect he could go through a comwhich the final question upon the bill was taken (Mr. W.) belonged. He was free to avow the plete transformation, and be insensible to the here, signed by his colleague, giving the informu- doctrine of instructions as belonging to his school, || change? Why, sir, we are so constituted that we tion that he was detained in New York by ill but the present remarks of his colleague were the cạnnot choose but feel, and feel deeply, all great health, (that being the first information of that first intimation he had received that he too did not revolutions in our circumstances. If a man, with character which had reached Mr. W.,) and re- belong to that same school, upon this point at an apparent zeal and honesty, advocates any cause questing that the final question upon this bill might least. He was sorry to be compelled to infer that for a series of years, so as to make himself not be postponed to await his arrival, which would here again a difference was to grow up between only conspicuous among the advocates, of that be on the Monday after. But a few moments had them, as it seemed to threaten an entire separation cause, but one of the most honored, distinguished, elapsed after the letter reached his hands when he in principle as well as practice.

and trusted of those advocates; if in this way he was informed that the same train of cars which He was aware that this answer had not exactly identifies himself with a great party, with the brought the letter brought also his colleague to reached the object of his colleague, and that he majority of his countrymen, and then, without

desired him to speak particularly of the resolu- any reason, or for reasons common sense scouts Upon this state of facts, well known to the tions of their Legislature now before the Senate. as frivolous and unmeaning, he abandons (I will Senator by a former explanation here, he rises in This it was not his purpose to do at present, not say his principles, for such men have no his place and again makes the charge of precip- || and the only relief he could give him now was principles) his party connections, all those he had itancy and want of courtesy." To such a charge, to inform him that when legislative instructions professed to love and honor, joins his and thruir under such circumstances, and coming from such should call for it, he should be ready to act former enemies, and is the loudest and most iina quarter, he had no reply to make. promptly and decisively.

principled caluminator of his former associates, His statement of facts had been made to justify Mr. T'APPAN said that the Senate had been do you think he can do all this without feeling himself to his constituents and the couniry; it. repeatedly charged with precipitation and want of that he has placed himself “in a peculiar and had been made to those who were Senators when courtesy in relation to the passage of the Independ- || trying siluation?" No, sir, no; human nature is the transactions took place, and could judge of the ent Treasury bill. He would not have thought much the same in all; we are so constituted that accuracy of his account of the matter. To his these charges worthy of notice if they had only we cannot descend from a life of honor and virtue colleague he owed neither explanation nor reply || been made by those who were not members of to acts of base turpitude and wickedness without to this repetition of such a charge.

this body when the bill passed; but as the same feeling ourselves in " a peculiar and trying situa; It would be seen that some time had been al- || impression had been atiempted to be made by tion.' Do you think, sir, that Benedict Arnold lowed after the meeting of the New York Legis- | others, he would briefly state the facts as they did not find himself in a "peculiar and trying lature, and before the final action of the Senate actually occurred. On the Thursday that the bill situation” when he resolved to betray his counupon the bill in question, for the filling of that || passed, after the Senator from Mississippi, [Mr. iry, lo abandon his high and honorable station, vacancy and the arrival of the elected Senator to

HENDERSON,] had spoken in opposition to the bill as the gallant soldier of liberty, and sink into utier take his place in the body.

and delivered an elaborate argument in favor of a insamy? Undoubtedly he did; and although he He would leave to his colleague the duty of United States bank, I observed (said Mr. T.) burned and plundered the villages and towns of informing the Senate and the country at whatiime that the Senate seemed tired of the debates; that his countrymen with savage ferocity, to ingratiate his election had taken place; at what time the I had intended to speak on that subject and had himself with his new friends, if you could have notice of the fact had reached him; what time was made some preparation for that purpose, but was heard the voice of his conscience, it would have occupied by him in traveling from the place of his not prepared then to address the Senate; and from told you that he found himself in

a peculiar and residence to the city of New York; what number the little attention paid to the labored argument of | trying situation.” of days ill health had confined him there; and all the Senator from Mississippi, I should conclude When, sir, a public man steers his course by the other facts which would account to their com- that the Senate did not desire to hear any more the polar star of principle he may be misundermon constituents for his late arrival to take his speaking, but would prefer to take the question stood; he may be misrepresented; he may lose seat in the Senate. He had not taken the pains that evening. I said ihat it was my own opinion his popularity; but he does not lose his lionor, to make inquiries into these facts, nor were they that we had spent time enough on the bill, and his self-possession and dignity. If public favor such as it became him to enlighten the Senate that we ought ihen to proceed to a final vote upon is withdrawn from him he retires to private life; about. He did not doubt the ability of his col- it; but if the Senate thought otherwise, and the and enjoys the calm and peace of a mind at case, league to give the information which seemed to debate was to be continued, I wouid, on to-mor- and conscious of rectitude; he is not reaching out be called for before he should become an accuser row, take occasion to submit my views; that at his “itching palm,”and whining about his " peof others; but it was at his option to give the in- present I would give way to any gentleman who culiar and trying situation." formation or to withhold it. "To him (Mr. W.) desired then to address the Senate. The Sena- And if, indeed, the Senator has chosen to place neither course had any importance, nor had he any tor from Maryland then took the floor, and after himself in so very peculiar and trying a situadesire upon the subject. The facts were within making a few remarks, moved an adjournment, | tjon it gives him no authority to misrepresent the reach of those to whom they owed a common which was not agreed to. He then proceeded to the motives and actions of those with whom he responsibility; and they would make up no judg- make a very strong speech against the bill, and had been associated, although it may entitle him ment upon either side without giving them their when he had spoken long enough for a reasonable to the pity of all men of honor and integrity. true weight and consideration.

sized speech, he gave way, and the member from Mr. MERRICK said that the Senator from He had no disposition to follow his colleague | Indiana made a motion to adjourn. This was also Ohio, in the course of his remarks, had said that into the discussion of the Independent Treasury || negatived, and the Senator from Maryland then a particular statement in his (Mr. M.'s) published bill upon this occasion. The subject was not new proceeded until he had finished his remarks. After speech “ was not true. He wished to inquire of to either, and the views of both were fully known him the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Davis] || the Senator whether by this remark he intended to their common constituents. He has further addressed the Senate with much ingenuity in to charge him with an intention to misrepresent thought it proper to discuss again most of the sub- opposition to the bill, and when he had concluded, || facts. jects upon which we have differed since we be- no other gentleman seeming desirous to speak on Mr. TAPPAN said that he was a plain spoken came members together of this body. He (Mr. the subject, the bill was passed.

man, and would say, with Martin Luther, that W.) would not follow him in this review. He As to the remark of the Senator from Maryland, “ he generally called a spade a spade;" but he did had been and continued to be content with their [Mr. MERRICK,] which was published several

not say or suppose that the Senator intentionally first discussions, and would rest himself upon days since, and not disavowed by him, that he misrepresented the facts; he only spoke of them them.

(Mr. T.) declined to address the Senate at all on as they were. His colleague has said, with some apparent feel- the subject, he must say, without supposing it Mr. MERRICK then gave a brief history of the

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events previous to the passage of the bill. Hav- Mr. TALLMADGE approved of the senti- one of the people? Does the mere fact of his ing stated that it was half after five o'clock when ments of the Chair, and would endeavor to observe holding a seat in this body raise a man above the he moved the adjournment,

his injunctions. All he had said was to repel the level of the people? Sir, he may have a seat on Mr. TAPPAN said the Senator was mistaken rude attack of the Senator from Ohio. Mr. T. this floor, and yet be in character and standing, in the hour; it was about a quarter past three then went into a history of his difference with the among his fellow-men, even below the average of o'clock.

President on the sub-Treasury bill. He said his the people of his own State. This has been an Several SENATORs said that was about the time. course in relation to that bill was taken by the ad- || oft-repeated charge, that the Democratic party

Mr. TALLMADGE appealed to the Senate vice and sanction of the highest political authority have established one currency for the Governwhether he had not, in all his intercourse with in his State; but since that time these very men ment and another for the people; that while we members, treated them with the courtesy which who urged him to the course had denounced him pay ourselves in gold and silver, the great mass gentlemen owed to each other and to the station as a deserter.

of the community are compelled to use a deprethey occupied. He was not in the habit of using Mr. TAPPAN. The Senator from New York ciated currency. He would admit that the fact harsh words there or elsewhere. He had no com- charges me with "interfering between him and exists of two currencies, one the constitutional plaint to make of his colleague on this score. He his colleague," with “invading his State," with currency, the other the currency of private comwould say that, as far as parliamentary and indi- meddling with New York politics. The Senator || panies; but whose fault is it? "Did ihe Governvidual courtesy were concerned, no man carried rose in his place and uttered a long and rambling ment or the Democratic party establish the State it further than his colleague. It was his uniform speech, in which he censured his colleague, and

banks? The banks of all the States, except manner, and he cheerfully awarded this to him. in no very moderate terms charged the majority Ohio, south of New York, have refused to reBut (said Mr. T.) my colleague has misappre- of this Senate with having passed the Independent | deem their paper, and they are now fighting hended me if he understood me as saying that he || Treasury bill precipitately, and with the dishon- | against resumption, and endeavoring to superbelonged to a school which avowed ihe doctrine est purpose of preventing him from recording his sede the constitutional currency with their irreof instruction while I belonged to a different vote against it. Was I to sit here, sir, a silent deemable trash. And we find the Senator from school. I said no such thing. But when we see listener to his foul slanders of the majority of this New York, (Mr. TalLmaDGE,) and the party of Senators who are professedly great admirers of body, with which I had acted? Are we bound to which the Senator has become a member, assothe right of instruction quibbling for want of a submit to all manner of contumely and reproach ? || ciated with these banks, and giving them their technical word, our confidence in the doctrine was No, sir, no; the Senator shall exercise no such countenance and support in their effort to supa good deal shaken. He did not say his colleague privilege here without the rebuke he merits. I press the circulation of the legal currency of the would do this, but there had been instances of it interfered not between him and his colleague; I


With a disregard of all truth and in the Senate. If I received instructions I would invaded not his State; I meddled not with New decency, the Administration are charged with at once carry out the wishes of my State, or give || York politics; but l'informed the Senator that causing this state of things. But I thank the her an opportunity of filling my place with an- there were other States in this Union than New Senator for his taunt, and I hope it will be reother who would represent her truly.

York, and other Senators here whose rights were membered and profited by. The banks even in He was sorry that the Senator from Ohio had to be regarded, besides him whom his file-leader this District, where we have exclusive jurisdicthought it his duty to intermeddle in this family pronounced fresh from the people.

tion, refuse to redeem their notes, and he (Mr. affair; and he would leave it to the Senate whether But the Senator complains that I apply “odi- || T.) hoped, when the subject came up for considit was done with parliamentary or individual ous epithets to him.” I have applied no epithet; || cration, as it would shortly, that Senators would, courtesy. The term traitor had been applied to I have supposed what might have been the cause so far as their legislation is concerned, relieve him by political slang-whangers, but he did not of his finding himself in so "very peculiar and themselves from the odium of being instrumental expect to hear it from one who had sufficient re- trying a situation" as he confessed he had been in establishing." one currency for the Governspectability of character to obtain a seat on this in for some time past. I did not say that his con- ment and another for the people;" that they floor. Traitor to what? To principle? No; a duct and character were paralleled by the conduct would sanction but one currency for the Governtraitor to party. And for a difference in political || and character of Benedict Arnold. It is the Sen- ment and the people, and that a good and subsentiment, am I to be branded as a traitor, to be ator's own conscience which adopts this parallel; stantial one. I have no more to say, sir; my ob. compared to Arnold? The Senator talks of what it is he that makes the hypothetical case his own. ject has been to repel an unjust and unprovoked he knows nothing about, and reminds me of a The Senator says he is always courteous in de-attack; to let the Senator know that if he incertain British lord's puppy, who did not get his bate. What are his ideas of courtesy? He has || dulges himself in such attacks on me and my eyes open until he was about to be drowned. made several speeches here since he took his seat; friends, he must expect to be answered plainly But the Senator is the very personification of and what were they? The most low and vulgar and promptly. I go no further; for, from my Loco Focoism. He professes to be one of the abuse of all his old friends and associates, a tirade | soul, I pity the man who, to court the favor of Simon Pures of that school. He also professes of newspaper slang and pot-house vituperation, new associates, finds it necessary to abuse and another principle, which is a very natural one for with frequent and most complacent reference to vilify his old ones. a Loco Foco. ' I have seen it stated in the news- “his speech"-a speech when and where deliv- On motion of Mr. WRIGHT, the resolutions papers, that when the news of the Southampton ered I neither know nor wish to know; but I can were ordered to be printed, and laid on the table. insurrection reached Ohio, the Senator expressed tell the Senator this: I never heard of" his speech" his willingness to furnish powder and ball to the before, and if it is as vulgar and abusive as the

ASSUMPTION OF STATE DEBTS. negroes. This feeling was only carrying out the speeches he delivers here he would do well to let destructive doctrines of Loco Focoism. He rep- it pass into oblivion without awakening a recol- SPEECH OF HON. JOHN DAVIS, resents me as saying that New York is the whole lection of it, which can do him no honor. "CourtUnion, and that all legislation must stop until eous in debate!” 1 submit to no such courtesy.

OF MASSACHUSETTS, she is fully represented. I said no such thing, In my life, sir, I have never heard any man speak

In SENATE, March 3, 1840, and pronounce it a misrepresentation, uninten

in public who was more abusive, more calumni. In reply to Mr. BUCHANAN, on the resolutions of the select tional no doubt. It is likely if that Senator had ous, more careless in his assertions; he must be- committee on the assumption by the Federal Government his way, one Senator would be thought sufficient come courteous himself before he claims to be of the debts of the States. for New York, provided he be always right. He treated with courtesy by others. The Senator Mr. DAVIS. Mr. President, the morning folwould not follow the example of the Senator from calls himself a Democratic Whig, and says I am lowing the remarks made by the Senator from Ohio, and invade her territory; there is one there a Loco Foco. I am indifferent what he calls me; Pennsylvania (Mr. BUCHANAN) upon my printed already who is used to repel invaders, and he will my enemies cannot change my name; near fifty || speech in reply to a speech of his, I asked pertake care of the gentleman. He calls me a traitor. years I have belonged to a party devoted to the mission of the Senate io restate my observations If I am a traitor, then are the people of New support of sound Democratic principles. Wel in reply, as I had reason to believe some of them York, whose representative I am, traitors. Let were called Democrats by way of reproach. What have been misapprehended, and to add some furhim come within her borders and say this to her was intended as a stigma we adhered to as an ther remarks, as I had then had an opportunity sons, and they will treat him with the scorn and honor; we cherish the name; it designates prin- to run over the speeches, and should endeavor contempt he deserves.

ciples. We do not change our name annually as thus to place the whole matter on a footing that Mr. HENDERSON rose to a point of order. the serpent changes his skin. Iam a Democrat, could not be misapprehended. He would inquire of the Chair whether he coør- simply and purely; not, thank God, a Democratic The Senate being then anxious to proceed in sidered the course of remarks now indulged in as Whig nor a Whig Democrat.

the unfinished business of the day, signified its being within the rules of order.

But the Senator has referred to a stale slander wish that I should embrace another opportunity, The CHAIR stated that he had avoided any that he has picked up in some newspaper or other.

and I now seize the earliest moment which has interference, because he trusted to the Senate to I will not descend to answer a charge made on presented itself to discharge that duty. This, I preserve its own dignity and the order of the body. || such authority. I would scarcely notice any am aware, is a subject that ought not to occupy He relied on the sense of honor and decorum of charge on the authority of the Senator himself, || time in this place, and my apology is that ! did the Senators to treat each other with that respect much less the stories which he picks up out of not introduce it, and claim only the right of vinand courtesy which is alike due to each other as Whig, newspapers. No, sir, when a charge is dicating myself against the extraordinary stategentlemen and the station they occupied. Since || brought against me it must have an indorser, and ments of the member from Pennsylvania. the Senator from Mississippi, however, had raised a good and substantial indorser, and then I will In order to a full understanding of the relation the point of order, he would say that he consid- answer it.

which events connected with this subject have ered the remarks of the Senator from New York The Senator has asserted that the policy of with each other, I shall recall to mind the occur. as transcending the limits of parliamentary couri- the Administration tends to the establishment of rences as they happened. esy. He regretted to be compelled to say this, “ one currency for the Government and another A few days before I replied to the member from but it was a duty imposed upon him by the posi- || for the people.” One currency for the Govern- | Pennsylvania I made some remarks upon several tion he held as the Presiding Officer of the body, ment and another for the people! Who are the topics of interest which seemed to connect them. and when he knew his duty he could discharge it. Il people ? Are you, Mr. President, and is he, noi Il selves with the discussion, and the Senator from

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Mississippi (Mr. WALKER) and the Senator from could have no reason to believe that it was possi- in other words, to high wages; for labor creates Pennsylvania replied. I then rejoined that I un- ble for me, under such circumstances, to mistake production, and the cost of production depends derstood from what had been said that opinions or misapprehend him. I had, on the contrary, as upon that of labor. Every laborer knows that, had been advanced that it would be beneficial to strong reason for believing as we ever have in de

as a general principle, the cost of production can. the country to reduce the value of property and bate, that I was right; for it is the custom in this not be diminished, except by lowering wages, and wages, and that I might in the course of the debate body to correct debaters on the spot by explana- || that wages and production go up and down tomake known my views upon the subject, if a suit- tions, a rule belonging to all deliberative bodies, I gether. I understood him to impute our want of able opportunity occurred. To this no response and to the justice of which no one yields a more success to the great cost of production, and to was made. Soon after the Senator from Missis- cheerful obedience than I do, for I am willing that argue that we should succeed in obtaining possippi (Mr. WALKER) delivered bis speech. The members should expound their own views. Under session of our own markets, and be successful Senator from Pennsylvania followed him, and these circumstances, the speech went to the pub. competitors for the markers of the world, if the was followed by the other Senator from Missis. lic, and I shall leave that public to determine with currency could be so reduced as to bring down in

the cost of production to the standard of prices reply to him upon topic of wages. The Sen- sustained, or if there can be the slightest ground | throughout the world. I understood him that ator from Indiana (Mr. SMITH) next took the floor, for complaint.

this was the corrective and the remedy for the and spoke also briefly to the same point. Mr. Yet, sir, six weeks after all this, his speech and manufacturers at least. I thought this a near apMERRICK, of Maryland, succeeded him, and went mine having in the mean time been widely circu- || proach to hard money alone; and how far it is much into the subject of the reduction of wages, lated and read, the Senator came into the Senate, consistent with his declarations of friendship to in reply to the Senator from Pennsylvania, as I and without the slightest previous information, a mixed currency, others can judge as well as I understood him, reading the tables of wages to direct or indirect, to me, of his purpose or dissatillustrate what the laborer received where the cost isfaction, rose and declared here his astonishment As the Senator has declined to specify, and as of production was least. The Senator from Ken- at the manner in which he was represented in my I am left to proceed by such lights as I have, I tucky (Mr. Crittenden) some days after, while || reply; and this he did in terms harsh and dis- | shall now read some parts of the printed speech another topic was under discussion, replied to the courteous. I thought he might have pursued a of the Senator, and leave others to judge how far remarks of the member from Pennsylvania on the course much more suitable to correct a misunder- || they sustain the view I took of his arguments. same topic. To none of these speeches or the slanding, if there was one, and that was his only [Here Mr. D. read several passages from the comments of the debaters did I hear any objection view. The lapse of time and the circumstances || speech, showing the general current of argument or reply, though I thought they understood the give to this movement an extraordinary charac- upon banks, banking, and excessive issues of paspeech to which they made answer much as I did. ter, and mark a deficiency in that decorúm which per; also relating to credits, speculation, &c.,

When the Senator from Maryland closed his signalizes the intercourse of the members of the which it is unnecessary to repeat.) remarks the day was far spent, but the Senate Senale. "I see nothing in my course in the slight- Sir, I cannot detain the Senate by reading furhaving manifested a determination to take the final est degree disrespectful to the member; nothing ther, and I have drawn attention to these paraquestion by refusing to adjourn, late as it was, i || bordering upon injustice, or from which it is pos- || graphs to show, what I am sure the member will rosé and assured the Senate that while I felt it to sible to infer the existence of a motive to wrong not question, that he treated of banking as it ex: be a duty I could not omit, to reply to some of the | him; and there was none. But, sir, he has chosen ists in the United States as highly objectionable, arguments in which doctrines were advanced re- his time and place. He came here, and not to and bringing upon the public evils which delating to great and momentous interests among me, for redress, and here he has made his appeal. || ma'nded a remedy. those I represented, yet I should limit myself to If it could be his purpose to come upon me by I pass to another part of the printed speech, a reply and a reply only. I think it was well un- surprise, he succeeded; for no one could have less which I deem more material, as it relates to those derstood to whai my attention was chiefly directed, anticipated complaint or cause of complaint. If it matters which induced me chiefly to reply to him. and I thus gave distinct notice to all who felt any could be his purpose to conceal his griefs and make The Senator said: interest in what I might say, of my specific object. || his attack so suddenly that I might be found with

“Sir, I solemnly believe that if we could but reduce this I then proceeded, in the presence of the mem- the subject dismissed from my mind, with neither

inflated paper bubble to anything like reasonable dimenber from Pennsylvania, who sits near where I his por my speech by me, nor anything to refresh sions, New England would become the most prosperous Blood, and commented upon his arguments a large my memory or enable me to compare facts, he

manufacturing country that the sun ever shone upon. Why portion of the time I was speaking: He best accomplished his purpose, and had the full bene

cannot we manufacture goods, and especially coiton goods,

which will go into successful competition with British knows whether he was in his seat all the time, fit of it; for I was indebted to the voluntary kind- manufactures in foreign markets? Have we not the nebut I saw him there much of it, and have reason ness of a friend for the copy of his speech, handed cessary capital? Have we not the industry? Have we not to believe he was there, or near there, the whole to me at the moment, from which I read some of

the machinery? And, above all, are not our skill, energy, of it. his remarks. Such is the course chosen by the

and enterprise, proverbial throughout the world ? Land is He did not interrupt me in the progress of my

also cheaper Irere than in any other country on the face of member. Here he has made his appeal, and here

We possess every advantage which Providence remarks lo correct any statement of his argu- and in the country let the question as to his mo- can bestow upon us for the manufacture of cotton; but ments, nor did he suggest that I misapprehended Lives be judged of, and whether I can be justly

they are all counteracted by the folly of man. The raw them or his sentiments, nor did he make any | chargeable with the slightest injustice toward

material costs us less than it does the English, because this

is an article the price of which depends upon foreign mara reply, though he had ample opportunity to do it him.

kets, and is not regulated by our own inflated currency. when I took my seat. My remarks were upon After many comments,

when called upon so to

We, therefore, save the freight of the cotton across the Alhis speec h as delivered here, and as I comprehend || do, the Senator pointed out two paragraphs in my

lantic, and that of the manufactured article on its return

here.' What is the reason that, with all these advantages, it from that delivery. I spoke of his arguments speech to which he took exception. His remarks

and with the protective duties, which our laws afford to tho as I understood them, being aided by some rough were so diffuse upon wages, labor, and other domestic manufacturer of cotton, we cannot obtain excluminutes noted down as he was speaking. This | topics, that I was not able to ascertain with satis- sive possession of the home market, and successfully conoccurred on the 234 of January, and in about a factory precision of what he did complain, nor am

tend for the markets of the world? It is simply because fortnight my speech was published, having been I able now to comprehend it so distinctly as I

wé manufacture at the nominal prices of our own inflated

currency, and are compelled to sell at the real prices of other thus delayed by the sickness of the reporter. His could wish.

nations. Reduce our nominal to the real standard of prices appeared a little earlier. The speech I delivered I will ask him if he has any objections to that

throughout the world, and you cover our country with is the same in every essential and material partic- part of my reply relative to the causes of distress

blessings and benefits. I wish to heaven I could speak in

a voice loud enough to be heard throughoutNew England; ular as that in print. The words cannot, I know, in the country? We seemed to be agreed that it

because, if the attention of the manufacturers conld once be entirely the same, but all else is. The argu- was owing to the derangement of the currency; be directed to the subject, their own intelligence and naments throughout are identical, and, Mr. Presi- but, in the cause of this derangement we differed.

tive sagacity would teach them bow injuriously they are dent, as you were an attentive listener, as well as If he has any, I wish him to stale it now, as I can

affected by our bloated banking and credit system, and would

enable them to apply the proper corrective. many others sitting here now, I appeal to you | reply more understandingly if better informed. "What is the reason that our manufactures have been and ibem, if any variation has been detected, to [The Senator declined answering.) I commented able to sustain any sori of competition, even in the liomo make it known. The member from Pennsylva- upon the remarks of the Senator upon banking in

inarket, with those of British origin? It is because Eng. nia has not ventured to suggest any. These are the United States; upon excessive issues of paper;

land herself is, to a great extent, a paper-money country,

though in this respect not to be compared with our own. facts about which there cannot and will not be upon the amount of circulating medium; upon “From this very cause 'prices in England are much any controversy.

credit; upon speculation; upon excessive imports, higher than they are upon the Continent. The expense or And here I repeat that I spoke of the speech and upon the increased cost of production and the

living is there double what it costs in France. flence, all delivered in this place as it fell from his lips, and

the English who desire to nurse their fortunes by living rate of wages, said to be produced by banking.

cheaply emigrate from their own country to France or could speak of nothing else, for it had not been I understood the Senator io dwell upon all these some other portion of the Continent. The comparative published. I spoke of it as I understood it in the matters in his speech; to speak of them as evils low prices of France and Germany have afforded such a delivery, gathering his sentiments and reasoning calling for correction. If there be anything ob

stimulus to their manufactures that they are now rapidly

extending themselves, and would obtain possession, in from him as he proceeded. My comprehension jectionable in my remarks, I should' be better

no small degree, even in the English home market, if it of his views was the only guide I could have. In || pleased to have it distinctly pointed now. In the were not for their protecting duties. While British manmy reply I spoke of it in his presence, in yours, course of his observations the other day, in sup

ufactures are now languishing, those of the Continent are and in that of the Senate and the public, making port of his complaint, he used this expression, I springing into a healthy and vigorous existence. It was every statement, every argument, as clear and dis


paper which stated that while the cutlery manufactured in tinct as I was able to do. No objection was made to anything I said. What more could I do? What because I was then, and am now, at a loss to un.

reduced in price that the latter would have to abandon the more can any one do? What other assurance derstand what precise arguments he alluded to in

manufacture altogether.” could I have of my correctness, or of the acqui- || that declaration.

What do we gather from this? What is the escence of the member from Pennsylvania in it? I understand him to speak particularly and obstacles to the success of the manufacturer, in the None whatever, unless the manuscript report had strongly of the manufacturing interest, ascribing opinion of the Senator? What prevents him been submitted to his revision and correction. I its embarrassment to the cost of production, or, M from obtaining exclusive possession of our mar

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