deep interest for several years. After the that. After the that. He had told the previous Governremarks of the Minister of Militia, how-ment, and stated in every contest in ever, he thought it might be left over till next year, though he could see no harm in granting the Committee. The present system was not satisfactory to the country, and he hoped there would be some changes made by the Minister of Militia this Session, before the Volunteers were called out again. He was glad to see that a large appropriation had been placed in the Estimates for the relief of loyal men who had defended this country in 1812. He was sure it would give satisfaction to the people, and that the Premier would receive the thanks of the people. There were many of the veterans of 1812 in his (Mr. Ross') own country who were now very old men. There were 600 of these men in this country still living, and $50,000 was not enough. He would like to see the amount doubled. He would refer to the question again when the Estimates came up. The present Volunteer system was not satisfactory to the country. There was not an adequate return for the amount expended on the Volunteers, and there was no such no such men turning out to drill now as those who went to the defence of their country a few years ago.

Hon. MALCOLM CAMERON said he was well aware he would find it difficult to get a seconder for the amendment he proposed to bring before the House. He would as soon think of teaching his child to drink whiskey or steal, as to be a soldier. He believed the tone of the world on that subject ought some time or other to change. Most people in this House, no doubt, professed to believe there would some day be a millenium, and so long as people believed there was necessity for fighting it would not come. His father had been a soldier and he (Mr. CAMERON) had as high an appreciation of his duty to his QUEEN and country as he had shown when it was absolutely necessary. But in this country, at least, we ought to be in favor of peace and universal brotherhood; we ought to teach the doctrine we professed in our Christian religion, and not be constantly increasing he thought of war, the desire to fight, the idea that our children should be ready to resist and strike back blow for blow, to demand eye for eye, tooth for tooth, and blood for blood. The time had passed for

which he had been engaged, that the time
had come when, owing to the peculiar
situation of the country, our Government
should endeavor to obtain a treaty of
peace with Great Britain, United States
and France. There was not a military
man living who believed that Canada
could be defended from the United
States. Even if war took place
between the United States and England,
in which we were not concerned, Canada
must be the battle-field. Was this a
position in which we should be placed ?
The hon. member for Bothwell had
referred to West Point. Perhaps our
Military Academy might, like West Point,
supply a training to young men who might
head a rebellion to destroy the country.
The time had come when the whole world was
looking to the settlement of such disputes.
by arbitration. Our frontier was of such
extent that it could not be defended in
case of war, and we ought to place our-
selves in such a position as we might at
all times be neutral and not be involved in
bloodshed.
bloodshed. In contradistinction to his
hon. friend's views, he would place a motion
on the paper which he thought was more
in accordance with the manner in which
Christian Governments ought to act.
He
would move, seconded by Mr. Forbes,
that all after the word “that be struck
out, and the following sustituted :-

"That, so far from its being desirable that our youth should be taught in schools the art of war and a military spirit engendered, the doctrine of peace, love and universal brotherhood should be inculcated, and our Government would add greatly to its popularity if they would, by Ministerial delegation to the Mother Country, to the Government at Washington and the Government at Paris, to endeavor to obtain a treaty on the basis of decision by arbitration in case of any difficulty arising with any one of these powers, the same difficulty to be referred to a committee of four persons to be named by

the other two.”

Mr. COLIN MCDOUGALL, (Eeast Elgin), moved that the matter be left to the Government to be dealt with, and that they be responsible for any legislation they might submit upon it.

Right Hon. Sir JOHN MACDONALD said this was a vote of want of confidence after the declaration of the Premier that he had no objection to the Committee. The necessity of Military drill was evident when they found a spirit of

Mr. Ross.

mutiny at headquarters. The hon. gen- | shall not be reckoned. The second sectleman was in rebellion against the Com- tion provides that the trials shall go on mander-in-Chief, and the Minister of Mili- from day to day without adjournment. tia was at war with the Premier. On This was to prevent such delays as had this occasion he (Sir JOHN) would follow occurred in many of the election trials; in the Premier. a great number of cases the trials had not yet been fixed.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE said he had no doubt the hon. gentleman would follow the Government, but was afraid they could not depend on him long. KENZIE'S) statement was simply this-if the hon. member desired to pursue the subject in a certain way the Government would not object to it, but he entirely agreed with the views of the Minister of Militia that it was of comparatively little use to have this Committee appointed, and of no use at all according to the views of some of the gentlemen who had spoken.

Hon. J. H. CAMERON asked if the Bill contained a provision fixing a certain His (Mr. MAC-time when proceedings must be taken or the case dropped; because if it did not it should. Nothing could be more unfair than the law as it stood. A petition might be allowed to remain standing one, two or three years according to circumstances and never brought to trial. He thought as the Hon. Minister of Justice was going to amend the law, it would be as well to give some attention to this particular point, in order that there might be a clause inserted requiring the petitioner to proceed or drop the petition. There were now cases a year old that had not been pressed. Instead of providing that trials should not go on during a session of Parliament, it would be better to require a petitioner to proceed whether Parliament was sitting or not, or drop the case. He hoped the Hon. Minister would consider this point.

Mr. BROUSE in consideration of the request of the Minister of Militia was willing to leave the matter in the hands of the Government.

The Amendment having been withdrawn the original motion was dropped. The House adjourned at 6 o'clock p. m.

HOUSE OF COMMONS,
Tuesday, February 16th, 1875.
The SPEAKER took the chair at three
o'clock.

Hon. MALCOLM CAMERON introduced a Bill to alter and amend the charter of the London and Canada bank.

Mr. MOSS introduced a Bill to change the name of the Imperial Building, Saving and Investment Company to that of the Imperial Loan and Investment Com

pany.

Mr. IRVING introduced a Bil! to extend and amend the law requiring railway companies to furnish returns of their capital, traffic and working expenditure.

TRIALS OF CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. Hon. Mr. FOURNIER introduced a Bill to amend the Act respecting Controverted Elections. He explained that the object of the Bill was to prevent the trial of election petitions during any Session of Parliament. The first section provides that in the computation of any delay allowed for any step or proceeding in respect of any such trial, review or appeal, or for the commencement of such trial under the next following election, the time occupied by any such Session Hon. Sir John A. Macdonald.

Hon. Mr. FOURNIER said the Bill did not contain such a provision, but he would be very happy to receive any suggestions the hon. member might wish to offer.

The Bill was read a first time.

SUPPRESSION OF GAMING HOUSES.

Mr. MOSS introduced a Bill for sup-pressing gaming houses and for punishing keepers thereof. He said he had the honor last session of introducing this Bill, but at so late a stage of the session it was. impossible to make sufficient progress. He desired to re-introduce it this. session, and he thought that the propriety of the legislation asked for would commend itself to every member of the House. It was sought by this Bill to give power to Police Magistrates and Commissioners of Police in a city or town, upon receiving a report, to authorize constables to enter any house, with force if necessary, that was reported as being a common gaming house; and subsidiary provisions were introduced into the Bill for the purpose of enabling this object to be carried into effect. The Act, as he explained last session, was adapted

specially noteworthy, because, as the House | the proof of the accuracy of these statewill see the great portion of it is in what ments. The one to which most attention is called statutory charges, over which the will probably be directed is the statement House has no further control, and for made by me that there would be a considwhich this Government and all future erable deficit last year, but for the alteraGovernments will have to make tion of the tariff. If the House will look provision. Turning to the other side, at these statements-I allude to the comthe House will perceive that the parative statement of receipts and expentotal receipts from all sources amount diture-the House will observe that in the to $24,200,000; being an increase over two main items from which our real the preceding year of $3,400,000; leav- | revenue is chiefly derived,—customs and ing, therefore, a nominal balance of $880,- excise, there is an increase for 1874 of 000 to the credit of the past year. It no less than $2,550,000 in round numbers. may be as well that I should mention, Of that increase, as I shall presently however, that in this nominal balance are show, no less than two millions of dollars, included two sums, one of $166,000 are directly attributable to the operation received from Ordnance lands, which was of the recent tariff. In turning to the paid late in the year, and is to be treated Trade and Navigation returns for the past as a casual rather than an ordinary item year, the House will observe that the of revenue; and another of $45,000, which total volume of imports into this country was returned us by the British Govern- was a little less for 1874 than it was for ment, but which, together with a much 1873, the exact figures being $127,500,000 larger sum, will have to be defrayed from for 1873 as against $127,400,000 for 1874. the expenditure of the current year on Now, Sir, if the House will further turn account of the Boundary Survey. In to what are known as dutiable goods, imfact, it is a mere cross entry, which, ported into this country during those strictly speaking, should not have appeared years, they will find that the total volume in our accounts at all. The net balance, of dutiable goods imported into the country therefore, according to my computation in 1874 was $76,232,000 as against from revenue sources, amounts to about $71,409,000 imported in 1873, being an $650,000. Now, sir, I propose to devote apparent difference therefore in favor of a short time to explaining somewhat in the past year of $4,800,000, in roundnumdetail the effect of the recent tariff changes hers. From this sum is to be deducted, in in creating this revenue. I dare say the the first place the sum of $400,000, House will remember that in my Budget being the excess of imports into speech last year I made these several Manitoba under the four per cent. statements: I stated to the House that tariff, and therefore involving so small a unless it consented to impose considerable sum of money that it in no degree affected additional taxation, there would be a the real comparison. Of the remaining serious deficit between the expenditure four and a-half millions excess, or appaand the revenue for the past year. I rent excess of dutiable goods, about one said also that if the sums estimated for by and one-half millions are due to the admisMr. TILLEY were to have been expended sion of Prince Edward Island into the last year in addition to what we knew was Union; and of the remaining three about to be expended, the Estimates for millions, one and one-half millions were the year 1874 would have amounted to caused directly by the removal from the $24,100,000. I stated also, that, to free list, under the recent tariff, of certain the best of my judgment, the House goods, as any one can see on examination must make up its mind for a of the tables; and the remaining one and temporary pause in the advance in our one-half millions was anticipated in conimports, and particularly our dutiable im- sequence of the expectation that new ports; but I added if the House were duties would be imposed, and was, in willing to give to the Government the fact, borrowed from the revenue of 1875 supplies they demanded, I had no doubt in advance to make up for the deficiency those supplies would be ample, not only to of 1874. My allegation is, therefore, meet present expenditures, but to make that of the sum of $2,550,000, the excess provision for our future liabilities. I shall in customs and excise, no less than $2,000,proceed, Sir, to give to the House, seriatim 000 are due directly to the new tariff, the Hon. Mr. Cartwright.

that estimated by Mr. TILLEY, by no less a sum than $624,000. The House is also probably aware that the sum of $250,000 demanded by him for working the Intercolonial Railway was not expended, and the further sum of $40,000 on account of boundary survey is not charged in last year's account, although the money has actually been expended, and will have to be paid this year to the British Government. These three sums combined exceed $900,000, and the House will therefore see that I was within the mark, and not above it, when I stated to the House that those estimates would not exceed $24,100,000 on the presumption stated by me. Now, with respect to my further statement that there was a strong probability that there would be a pause in the volume of the general imports of this country for at least two or three years, the House need only turn to the Trade and Navigation Returns to see that that statement has been literally verified. The total volume of trade for 1873 amounted to $127,500,000. The total volume of trade for 1874, even remembering that Prince Edward Island is included, only amounts to $127,400,000, being a falling off in the total volume of trade of $100,000. The apparent increase on dutiable goods I have already sufficiently explained, I have in my hand a statement recently given me by the Commissioner of Customs, showing the exports and imports for the six months of the current year as compared with those of the six months ending on the 31st of December, 1873. The result of these I will briefly read to the House. During the half year ending the 31st December, 1873, our total exports amounted to $57,251,000. During the six months of the current year, our total imports appear to have amounted to $53,357,000, being a decrease, I am sorry to say, of nearly four millions. Of articles entered for consumption our total imports amounted to $71,068,000 in 1873, and in the corresponding period of 1874, the total imports amounted to $69,588,000, being a deficit of about one million and a half. This I want the House to bear in mind is partly explained by the fact that we have virtually borrowed a portion of the revenue of 1875 for the benefit of 1874. With respect to the fourth statement made by me

difference of $550,000 being accounted for | Works chargeable to income falls short of partly by the admission of Prince Edward Island, and partly by the regular increase which night have been expected in the Excise Department. Now, Sir, although I do not regard this point as one of very great importance, for the simple reason that the taxation was imposed not so much to meet a deficit in the year then nearly expired, as to provide for future engagements, it may be as well to give some still further corroborative proofs of that previous assertion. Now, in the first place, if we choose to compare the importations for the eight months ending the 28th February, 1873, with the same time of 1874 before the new tariff had any effect on the importations, we shall find the total of dutiable imports for 1873 amount to $44,400,000, as against $45,576,000 for 1874 being a difference in favor of 1874 of $1,170,000 in round numbers, almost all of which is due to the admission of Prince Edward Island. Or taking another form of proof.-Take the ten days' statements of the money paid into the exchequer from the first to the tenth of April, and from the tenth to the twentieth of April, of 1873 and 1874, and we have these results-(I am including both customs and excise):-In 1873, between the first and tenth of April, we received $515,000. In 1874 we received $1,375,000 during the same period, being a difference in these ten days of $860,000. In the succeeding period, up to the twentieth of April, as against $336,000 in 1873, we received $1,171,000 in 1874, amounting to a difference of $835,000 in these two periods of twenty days, or rather two periods of ten days. We gained as nearly as possible $1,700,000 under the operation of the new tariff. As I have said, the House will remember that this was to a certain extent borrowed from the revenue of 1875. The remaining two or three hundred thousand dollars are much more than accounted for by the operation of the tariff, as evidenced in these tables. With respect to my second statement, that if the sums estimated for by Mr. TILLEY had been expended in addition to those which we knew would be expended, the estimates must have reached at least $24,100,000, very little explanation is needed. The House is aware that the estimate of the sums expended in Public Hon Mr Cartwright.

that if the House consented to grant