use such language as he has just used | the various sections of this country, he regarding the United States, namely, did not have some of his Ministers with that the legislation of the United him, especially when he went far States was going to bring discredit on west to the Pacific slope, for there that country, I think it very unlikely they might have obtained some that a President or any public man information which I am of the United States would return a visit from him. But we are congratulated on the fact that, while war is threatening the Old World and discredit the New World, we are above all affairs of war and discredit, and have only to attend to the ordinary business of the country. I am very glad to hear the announcement that at last we have a Reform Government with nothing to reform, and only the ordinary business of the country to carry on. I can cordially agree with my hon. friends, the mover and seconder of the Address in the language they have used with respect to the illustrious individual who now so worthily represents the Queen in this country, and who, to the regret of both sides of this House and those whom we represent, will not be much longer with us. His career in this country it would be presumptuous in me to speak of. I shall only say with respect to Their Excellencies that I quite agree that no language is too strong to convey my opinion and the opinions of the gentlemen forming the Opposition in this House, as well as the opinion of hon. gentlemen opposite, and the opinion of the whole country, as to the conduct of His Excellency the Governor-General since his arrival in this country. He will take with him the good wishes, the esteem, the regard and, I may say, the affection of the people of Canada; and, as he is a young man, and apparently a strong man, we may look forward with some expectation and hope that he will for many years in the ripe career that awaits him in the future, be our friend in the Parliament of England and in the counsels of the Empire; and not only a friend, but a friend who is acquainted with all the desires, all the wishes, requirements and resources of this country. He possesses, I am glad to know it, information that he has gathered from every Province in the Dominion, and I can only regret that he is taking that information away with him, and that when he visited

sorry to say they a e in need of at present. With regard to the arbitration clauses of the Washington Treaty, I am glad to know that that arbitration has been concluded, that an award has been made, and I have no doubt-unless hon. gentlemen opposite will inform us there is a doubt the award will be carried out according to the terms of the Washington Treaty by the United States, and by the United States Government. We are congratulated, and we are called upon to congratulate His Excellency, that the exhibition of Canadian products at Sydney has been successfully carried out, and we are also called upon to thank His Excellency for informing us that preparations have been carried on during the last six months with regard to the Paris Exhibition. These are important clauses in one sense, and, although we are not told we are to get a report with respect to the Australian Exhibition, and although the Speech does not contain any promise that the papers will be brought down, I hope, notwithstanding there is a lack of promise, there will be abundant performance in the way of submitting the papers to the House. The success of the exhibition made by Canada at Paris is of very great importance, I believe, to the future of the Dominion. I believe there can be, and there ought to be, increasing commerce between France and Canada. It ought to be encouraged and assisted in every possible way, and I believe the exhibition of our products at Paris, if fairly and properly laid before the continental world, will be of great benefit to this country. I urge and implore the Government to consider well whom they have to represent them there. I ask them to consider whether they should not select men of good manners without too much self-confidence, who will listen a little and be at all events civil to Canadian exhibitors and strangers who go to do their part in showing what Canada really is to the Parisian, French and European public. But

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the hon. member for North Norfolk | the language of the address with (Mr. Charlton), who seconded the Ad- regard to the misfortune dress, while he highly approved of happened to the city of St. Johnthose two clauses, said our manufactures a wonderful misfortune, a dreadare flourishing, that our manufactures ful misfortune. A great woe passed are, comparatively speaking, in a most over one of our commercial successful position, and that those cities, and, while I would compliment manufactures have been developed by the Government for their promptitude the Australian Exhibition and will be in coming forward in the manner they developed by the forthcoming Exhibi- did, still I believe the country would tion at Paris. Much as I would like have sustained them, and the Opposto have our manufactures develop in ition in this House would have susFrance and Australia, I would much tained them, had their aid not only prefer that they should have been fully been immediate but twice as liberal. developed at home; that we should have With regard to the treaties with the a home trade, a system of home manu- Indians, of course we cannot judge of factures and encouragement to home them until the papers are laid before manufactures, which is twice blessed- the House. I am glad, however, to which blesseth him that gives and him know that they no more onerous, or that receives the giver and the re- scarcely as onerous, as previous treaceiver alike being in our own country. ties. If it is so-and the House has Why the hon. gentleman will not ad- no reason to think otherwise-of course mit, apparently, that our manufactures we shall congratulate ourselves and the are undersold in their own market by country must join in the congratulathose of the neighbouring country whose tions and felicitations contained in the misery and retchedness he deplores, Address on that happy result having and whom he speaks of in a rather depre- been arrived at. But with respect to ciatory way when comparing the com- the next paragraph, the eighth paramercial and manufacturing condition graph, regarding a number of Inof the United States with that of Canada, dians having come into this country, and, strange to say, while the United I think I must ask the hon. the States is in such a state of depression, Premier to make an alteration in its while there is such misery there in terms by amending it slightly, for I consequence of the protective system- think it commits us in a manner to a system which the hon. gentleman which I do not think the House will advocated, I am told, with wonderful | willingly commit itself. The paraability on the floor of the House, and graph reads:within three years too—while he deplores the miseries of the position of United States manufactures, and, while he compares with exultation the flourishing state of our manufactures, he loses sight of the fact that the whole of the manufacturing population of England is at this moment awakening to a feeling of alarm at being undersold in their own markets by American manufacturers. The hon. gentleman is always offering a challenge to bring on a discussion on the trade question; but I think we must postpone that till by and bye, for the hon. gentlemen will have many opportunities during the present Session of vindicating his present opinions, if they continue to the end of the Session, or maintaining the opinions which he so ably advocated three Sessions ago. We most all concur in

"That we learn, with much interest, that early in last summer. a large body of Indians under Sitting Bull, from the United States, crossed into British Territory, to escape from United States troops, and have

since remained on the Canadian side; and that the United States Government made a friendly but unsuccessful attempt to induce these Indians to return to their reservations.

And that we agree with His Excellency, in hoping that such arragements may yet be made as may lead to their permanent and peaceful settlement, and thus relieve Canada of a source of uneasiness and a heavy expenditure.”

For my part I would be infinitely more pleased if arrangements could be speedily made to effect their peaceful removal, rather than their permanent and peaceful settlement.

MR. MILLS: It is so.

SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD: It is quite the contrary. The Indians

opposite, after having seven year's surveys, to which the seconder of the Address has significantly alluded, and after having the whole results of the summer's surveys, ought to be now enabled-unless there are special reasons to the contrary--to determine as to what the proper route is. "Man never is, but always to be, blessed," and we will be blessed by-and-bye; and we will hope that some time in the early part of the Session the Government will be able to state what route has been determined on. One thing is clear: that the Government has determined that the Yellow-Head Pass is the pass through which the railway will go. I trust the Government will, at an early day, lay on the table all the surveys and reports they have received in order to justify that final conclusion. The 10th paragraph is a very remarkable one, and the hon. member for North Norfolk (Mr. Charlton) dwelt upon it with great unction. The paragraph reads: "That we receive with much pleasure His Excellency's congratulations on the abundant harvest reaped in all quarters of the Dominion, and that under this and other influences there has been some improvement in the Revenue returns, thus indicating, as we trust with His Excellency, that the commercial depression that afflicted Canada in common with other countries, is passing away.'

ences, trust to everything but statesmanlike conduct and administration. A feeling exists in the country that the Government might have, if only at first by an expression of sympathy, taken a step in the direction of assisting our industries and manufactures. If they had taken some such step, some confidence might have been placed in them. But there is a great feeling of want of confidence in the Government. Even with the abundant harvest, there is a want of confidence in their administrative power and in their faculty for legislating. The bill of fare shows what they have to submit. We are to have an improved system of auditing accounts. That is a very important thing in its way. Then we are to have greater facilities for reaching theNorthWest, a Homestead Law in the NorthWest and a registration of titles for the North-West. These are very well in their way, and I dare say to the inhabitants of Manitoba of some little use.

We are to have an Independence of Parliament Act. These Independence of Parliament Acts require a great deal of legislation. And what is the first thing we shall have to consider in securing the indeThe first pendence of Parliament ? thing will be to secure the electors of this country against the undue influence I do not hear the passing bell. I think of the Crown; against the undue influthe depression still exists. If hon. ence of Ministers of the Crown behind gentlemen will look at any of the evi- the back of the Crown. It is of more imdences that are patent before them, I portance that we should put an end to think they must agree with us that that system of wholesale corruption the depression exists still. Look at and intimidation which has been used, the city of Montreal, at the state of the I do not hesitate to say, by the present lumber trade in Ottawa, at the number Government, than to prevent a single of insolvencies here compared with the instance of bribery by a single candinumber in the United States; look at date at a single election. I do not all or any of the evidences, and you hesitate to say that there has been a will see we are called upon to be most system of Government influence used desperate believers to believe that the by the present Government for carrydepression is passing away. I would ing elections which has been unheard be glad if I could agree with that opin- of before in this country, and since the ion; I would be happy to think that days of Walpole has never been heard our abundant harvest or any other of in England. Look, for instance, at cause would remove the commercial the O'Donoughue case. And I call the depression, or was likely to remove it. attention of the House to it, not only The members of the Government are with reference to the independence of very modest. They claim no merits for Parliament, but with reference to the removing it themselves. The fly-on-the- responsibility of Ministers to Parliawheel policy still exists. The Government. Hon. gentlemen have charged ment still feel that they must trust to us with acting as prerogative men, the harvest, trust to atmospheric influ- with over-riding the authority of

Parliament, with not being sufficiently | out were dissatisfied with their extraunder the control of Parliament, with ordinary conduct. How are the hon. being negligent in the expenditure of gentlemen opposite to account for this public money; and we were told that wanton insult to Parliament. How is with new men there would be new the hon. the Premier te account for measures, that an age of purity would setting aside the decision of his be introduced, and, more than all, there own friends, the decision of the should be a complete system of Par- majority in Parliament, after stating liamentary control by which Govern- that it was disloyal to submit such a ment would be strictly a committee, proposition. In this House, the hon. an executive committee, bound to member for Prince Edward (Mr. Ross) carry out the desires and expressed stated in April that he always voted, wishes of the representatives of the and always would vote, against any people in Parliament. Now, Sir, what such proposition, and wc, who have we in regard to the O'Donoghue always considered ourselves the case? When the hon. member for embodiment of loyalty, were charged Victoria, N. B. (Mr. Costigan) made by the hon. member for South his motion last Session, and when he put Waterloo (Mr, Young), with disinto his resolution the reasons why loyalty. The House came to the conthis man O'Donoghue should receive no clusion, at the request and suggestion greater punishment than Riel and of the Government, and after a most Lepine, which was pressed strongly on able speech from the hon. member for this side of the House and as strongly South Bruce (Mr. Blake) in defence opposed by the Government, some of of the policy of the Government of the language used by hon. gentlemen that time, that this man O'Donoghue opposite on that occasion was most had no right to an amnesty; and yet, remarkable. One hon. gentlemen, the four or five months after the rejection hon. member for South Waterloo (Mr. of that resolution by a vote of 106 to Young), charged this side of the House 60, for fear of the loss of some votes, with want of loyalty for voting in the Government threw back in the face favour of any such resolution. That of their own followers and supporters, was in the spring of 1877. In in the face of the representatives of the November, 1877, an election was going majority of the people, the resolution on in Quebec, and, in order to secure a they themselves had voted against, and seat for one of the Administration, in granted a pardon, a conditional parorder that the Government might not don, which they had refused with con· be placed in a ridiculous position, tumely, which they had insulted the having taken him into the Ministry, Opposition for pressing, and they after he had been driven from his granted it, no doubt, with શ original constituency, the Government regard to the independence of Farliacame down and published a procla- ment. With regard to this indepenmation deliberately setting aside the dence of Parliament, hon.members may vote of this House and the solemn remember that some time in August declaration of Parliament. And why last a deputation came up to Ottawa did they do it? They did it to secure and waited on the hon. the Premier te the election of the hon. the Minister of enquire whether the Government could Inland Revenue. It was stated in the not do something to obtain the admisnewspapers that the original Order in sion of Canadian shipping into French Council was passed in September. If ports at reduced rates. The hon. the that be not so, I should be glad to hear Premier received them, "with all that how it came to pass. But it it be so, courtesy and kindness which is his disthe case stands still worse, because tinguishing characteristic," as the within four months, certainly within newspapers say, and told them he five, after the hon. the Premier had could do nothing for them, that there called upon his party to vote against must be an application made through the resolution I have referred to, they the British Government to the French passed an Order in Council and carried Government; Lord Carnarvon must be it out for the purpose of influencing a communicated with, and he must be body of people who they had found asked to asked to communicate with Lord