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acting on his own impulses of what the British North America Act; but I
was right and wrong, and guided would take ro verbal promises from them
only by his own judgment and senti- concerning a railroad. I insisted that a
clause should be inserted in that Act, giving
ments, but, though a Liberal during his
us the road, for I wanted it in the bond, and
political life of twenty-five years, I got it in the bond. I said, let us catch the
always elected as such, and elected at hare before we talk of making the soup.
the last reconstruction of the House, [This bit of bragging on Mr. Mitchell's part
on the 5th February last, as a Liberal-delegates who went to Great Britain from all
is simply ridiculous nonsense, for the other
a true Liberal, not a misrepresentation, the Provinces at the time named, were quite
of whom there were so many in the
present day—he had a strong tendency
to support the Conservative leader. Let
the hon. member for Guysborough not
misrepresent his position, which was
that of being one of the few men who
dared to speak on all occasions, and
was prepared to do it.

MR. RYMAL said that, as the hon. member for Northumberland had referred to the election through which he had recently passed, he would read from a speech made to the electors by that hon. gentleman at Barnaby. In that address he showed his constituents what he had done by his determination of character, and that he had never undertaken anything which he had not accomplished, except the obtaining of some old rails. The hon. gentleman, speaking of the success of his efforts in carrying Confederation, said :

"I, and my colleagues [I, first, of course. Ed.] had to go to work to educate the public mind, to talk up Confederation, and to show the many benefits that we, as a people, would derive from such an alliance. In this I was ably seconded by Messrs. Johnson, Chandler, Fisher and Tilley. [A great many people remember when Mr. Mitchell was glad to be thought an assistant of John M. Johnson.-Ed.] We held a conference at Charlottetown, and another in Quebec. We then appealed to the people and were defeated, 33 to 9. This was another dish-cloth thrown on the Intercolonial.-[Elegant metaphor.-Ed.]

"Did this deter Peter Mitchell? Did he then cave in? Did he give up his darling project of a railroad for Northumberland? answer you, no! decidedly not! He fought ou still, and the verdict was reversed at the polls in the next general election. Yes, Sir, we appealed to the country and were the only Province that did so! The other Provinces adopted the more arbitrary method of passing the Confederation Act by a vote of their respective Legislatures a highhanded proceeding, to say the least of it. ~I, Sir, was one of the delegates appointed to go to Britain to confer with the Imperial Government, and we drew up what was called

as auxious to have the loan of £3,000,000 stg. guaranteed under the Act as Mr. Mitchell was. He merely assented to what abler men proposed.-—ĒD.]

routes,

"Confederation being consummated, the next great struggle was about the choice of Mr. Mackenzie, in his picnic-circus soirees in 1867, took the opportunity of throwing cold water on our present Intercolonial. He said, "If you are to have a road, let us have it down the valley, connecting at Woodstock.' Tilley fought against the I. C. R. by the North Shore, and advocated the central route, as it was in the interests of his constituents to do so, and his own political existence almost depended on the location of that route. But, Sir, in spite of this determined opposition, we succeeded in bringing it down by the North, and now, Sir, we have a railroad over which you hear the cars running at this present moment. [Mr. M. forgot to mention that he was also opposed to the Intercolonial running by the North-that he wrote a pamphlet advocating the Northern Central; that his friends advocated the same route; that some of these pamphlets are still in existence as a proof that he was opposed to the I. C. R. running where it does at present, and where Sandford Fleming and the British Government insisted that it should be; that he wanted the road to go via Apohaqui-50 miles the other side of Moncton-thereby having it cross our county at about Boiestown. Even after the meeting was over, Mr. Mitchell had to acknowledge, in conversation, that he advocated the route via Apohaqui. In fact, he knows that he only followed the tide in his advocacy of the present route, and pretended to make desperate efforts to have the location where it is after he found that the Imperial policy would sanction it in no other place.— ED.]"

He wanted to call particular attention to what followed, because it illustrated the power of the man.

"$40 FRIGHTENED OUT OF C. J. BRYDGES. "Seeing a good looking woman here tonight, Mrs. M -yMy meant Murray, he presumed. An HoN. MEMBER: It is Murphy. MR. RYMAL: Then Mrs. Murphy had lost a cow,

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"And hearing that she lost a cow, puts me in mind of the way in which I frightened the price of a cow out of Brydges."

The hon. gentleman was a terrible man to frighten a Railway Commissioner. The hon. gentleman continued:

"A certain man in Newcastle had a cow killed by the train. He wrote to Luttrell about it as well as several other railway magaates, but could not get anything out of them. He then wrote to me when I was in Ottawa, and I went to see Brydges about it. I said, 'Here, Brydges, is a fair case; here is a man that has had a cow killed by the train, and I want you to see that he is paid for her.' Mr. Brydges took the letter out of my hand, read it, and said, Oh! I know all about that case, I won't pay for her,' but I said, 'Mr. Brydges, you must pay for her,' 'No,' said he, I will do no such a thing.' And I said, 'Now, Brydges, you will have to do either one thing or the other-I can very easily spend one night in Parliament talking about you, and you know I can talk all night if I like, and I'll give you such a raking as you never got before.' 'Well,' said he, 'Ï suppose I had better pay for her.' So that cow was paid for. Do you think, if it was Mr. Snowball that was there, that the man would have been paid for his cow. No; certainly

not, for he cannot talk like me.

I

MR. RYMAL: The hon. gentleman also said:

"When Mackenzie was done speaking, some of our fellows got up and gave him some more trouble. I did not say a great deal in the first part of the debate, but when they were done I got up and made the House ring.'

Now, here came another piece of intimidation :

"When I was done, Vail came across the House to me (that is the man that was defeated in Digby) and said, 'What the devil is wrong with you to-night, Mitchell? I never saw you act so badly before.' I said, 'I'll teach Mackenzie to be polite. Why the devil does he not the woman for the cow ?' pay 'What cow? said he. I told him. He went over to Mackenzie's desk and spoke to him, and came back to me and said, 'That will be all right in the morning.' So that poor woman got paid for her cow. Now, I hear some of you have had cows killed, and when I go up to Ottawa each one of you will please write to me, and I'll see that you are paid for them."

Such boasting as this was ridiculous, though, perhaps, he ought not to call it boasting, for perhaps the hon. gentleman did intimidate the Government and make them feel the mighty power he (Mr. Mitchell) wielded in the way of making them pay for these cattle, and, if cattle were destroyed, probably they ought to have been paid for. He was not saying anything about that; but what he had risen to remark was that this was the first time he had ever heard the hon. gentleman acknowledge that he did not succeed in everything he undertook, and the hon. gentleman had even gone so far as to acknow

"There was a poor woman lost a cow in Newcastle. She wrote up to me about it went to Brydges, and told him he would have to pay for that cow also, it was a fair case. He said, 'We are tired of doing that kind of thing, and won't pay any more.' I said, Well Brydges, if that cow is not paid for in twentyfour hours you may look out for yourself.' The twenty-four hours passed and the cow was not pail for. It happened that the House was going into Committee of Supply that night, and it was one of those times when we can give the Government the most bother. It was about eight in the evening when Mackenzie rose and asked for $2,000,000 for the Lachine Canal. He asked for this money, and wished to force a vote on it without any debate. Such a high-ledge that he would have succeeded in

handed proceeding was never witnessed in
any Canadian Parliament before."

MR. MITCHELL: That is all true.
MR, MACKENZIE: No.

MR. RYMAL: The hon. gentleman

went on to say:

"I got up in my place in Parliament and asked him if such a large amount was necessary, on what portion of the canal was it to be expended, and similar questions. These few words gave him an hour's talking to do. Be fore this, I had written a little note to him, asking him to pay that woman for her cow. looked at it, and threw it into his desk. I said to myself, I'll teach you to be a little more courteous than you are, or my name's not Peter Mitchell.'"

He

MR. MITCHELL: And I think I did.

getting the rails if he had only promised to support the Government; and he (Mr. Rymal) would tell the House what he believed the hon. gentleman would have done-he have supported the Government if believed the hon. gentleman would they had promised him the rails.

MR. MITCHELL: One word.

MR. SPEAKER: We have heard three speeches from the hon. member for Northumberland, two speeches by himself and one through the medium of another hon. gentleman.

MR. MITCHELL: I rise to explain, I think I am perfectly in order.

Some HON. MEMBERS: Chair.

MR. MITCHELL said he did not intend to inflict a lengthy speech on the House. The hon. member for South Wentworth (Mr. Rymal) had read in a very humorous way what purported to be a speech delivered by himself, but which was a burlesque on a speech he had delivered; specially reported for the paper of that very ardent supporter of the Administration, Mr. Jabez Bunting Snowball, a gentleman who had been encouraged by the hon. the Minister of Marine and Fisheries to oppose Peter Mitchell in Northumberland.

Some HON. MEMBERS: Order.

MR. MITCHELL: All right; I will take another opportunity of saying what I wish.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. member

is again out of order.

MR. MITCHELL: All right; go on.

MR. MCCALLUM said it appeared that the prophecy which the hon. member for North Hastings (Mr. Bowell) had made with respect to the Government taking power to loan old iron rails had come true; but it did not require a very prophetic mind to see what the result would be. He had previously said that this was wrong in principle, and that it would be wrong in practice, and he considered that the explanations which had that evening been given to the House on this subject showed that it was wrong both in principle and in practice. He had even gone so far as to say he did not think that the Government would ask, as a condition for getting these rails, the support of any one; but in this, it appeared, he was mistaken. According to the explanations given that night, it was proved that the loaning of these rails had been made conditional on What would support in the House. the people of the country say about this? When they examined into this matter they would see that these were suckers instead of feeders of the Intergentle-colonial Railway. Reference had been、

MR. MITCHELL said he was not going to occupy the time of the House for a long time; but he could only say that time would be saved to the country if he were allowed to say what he intended to say. The hon. gentleman had read a burlesque on his speech, written by the paid slave of Mr. Snowball.

Some HON. MEMBERS: Order.

MR. MITCHELL: There is no disorder in that. He is not a member of Parliament. If I had called a member of Parliament a paid slave, that would be wrong, but I did not say so. I said that this man was the paid slave of Jabez Bunting Snowball, a gentleman who is encouraged to oppose me and to continue that opposition, and I expect it.

MR. BLAKE: I rise to a question of order. However desirous I might be that the hon. gentleman should make an explanation, I think the hon. gentleman is abusing the courtesy of the House in making a third speech, and attacking an absent man. This is not a personal explanation.

MR. MITCHELL: The hon. gentle

man whose health is so bad.

Several HON. MEMBERS: Order.

MR. MITCHELL: There is no order about it.

made to the Truro and Pictou Railway.
It was true that the late Government
had offered to give away this road; but
they had not offered to spend $300,000
on it, and then hand it over, but to
transfer it as it then stood. He
had not expected that the prophecy of
himself and his hon. friend, made two
years ago, would have come true. It
did not require a prophetic mind to
make that prediction, because he re-
membered when the hon. the Premier,
then leader of the Opposition, voted
for the motion made by the
hon. member
for Lanark that
the Intercolonial Railway should
be laid with iron in place
of steel rails; and, when he found the

MR. BLAKE: I rise to a question of hon. gentleman so anxious within the

order.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. member for Northumberland is out of order.

space of two years to take up the iron rails and relay the road with steel, he thought this was cause for alarm in the country, and that the Government

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would use these rails to keep them- | true
selves in power, and things had just
turned out as he had believed they
would.

MR. PLUMB moved the adjourn-
ment of the debate.

he had told the people at Barnaby's River that he could not get justice done them by the Administration, and that Peter Mitchell would stand in the House night after night, and criticize the Government's acts, and endeavour to force them to do justice to his constituents, no matter how poor they might be; and he was going to do it too. The It speech read was a burlesque. was not the one he had delivered verbatim et literatim. He had told his people how he had got pay for a cow, and how he had forced payment out of the Government; and it was also true that the hon. the Minister of Finance had indicated that he would

pay

about last year, though the hon. genfor another cow he had spoken tleman had not done it.

MR. CARTWIGHT: No.

MR. MITCHELL said he thought he was now in order. He rose to oppose the motion of the hon. member for Niagara. He thought the debate had lasted long enough and ought to be closed. He took this opportunity to set himself right with regard to the burlesque of a speech he had delivered, that had been read by the hon. member for South Wentworth. Many of the points contained in this burlesque he had made, and he was not ashamed of them. He was not ashamed to say that Barnaby's River, was as fine a settlement as his county contained; the railroad ran through it, and in it lived people of very moderate means, but MR. MITCHELL said such was the who were very independent in excase. The hon. gentleman, who was pressing their opinions and in giving not as deeply interested in the matter their votes. These people had stood as himself, had forgotten it. They by him in former years; and they had were told by the hon. the Minister of grievances to redress and claims Justice that, when these poor people against the Government for which they had cattle killed, which happened received no consideration or settlement. almost every month, they could appeal He felt that these people had not had to the Supreme Court, but where would justice done them, and why? Because they find the money to do so? Their he opposed the Administration on the other side of the House. He could get $40, or a horse worth $100, and recases concerned, perhaps, a cow worth no consideration from the hon. gentle-taining fees of $200 or $400 were men opposite, and he could tell the demanded by these harpies of the law, Government that he could not induce these lawyers. them to consider the claims he presented except he secured it by, as it were, drawing their teeth. It was true that he had done as represented last Session, because the Government would not pay for a poor woman's cow; and nothing but a sense of the injustice perpetrated made him so act; otherwise he could get no justice out of the Government.

Some HON. MEMBERS: Order.

MR. MITCHELL said he was not ashamed to say that he had got payment last Session for a poor man's cow, and he was going to get pay this winter for a poor woman's cow, or else the hon. gentlemen opposite would be none

the better for it. He was not ashamed to state, also, that he did tell the people

SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD: You he could not get iron rails to build the cowed the Government.

MR. MITCHELL said he was not ashamed of what he had done in this regard; and the hon. member for South Wentworth, who was always so ready to be used by the Governmert to cast ridicule on hon. members of the Opposition, might make as much fun as he liked of his remarks. It was

road by Miramichi valley, and why? Because he voted against the Government; and because he believed that it was a dishonest Government which did not serve the best interests of the people, and which had not grasped the first principles that the prosperity of the, country called for, and that were necessary to promote such prosperity; because he believed that this was an

effete Administration, which had not done justice, and which did not try to do justice. This was what he had told his people, and what he had repeated on the hustings. He knew what consideration he got from hon. gentlemen opposite. The hon. the Minister of Marine and Fisheries had sent such telegrams down to Mr. Snowball as the following:-"Get the county; save it if you can; drive Mitchell out of it; we will give you all the patronage, whether you succeed or fail." And they had given it to Mr. Snowball. He (Mr. Mitchell) was not able to appoint a man to take care of a hoggery; but, thank God, he had not asked these hon. gentlemen for any thing of the kind. The day was not far distant when hon. gentlemen opposite would have the same treatment meted out to them that they had meted out to their opponents. He could look round to the other side

of the House and name men occupy ing the seats there who could not deny that, when the Conservative party were on the Treasury benches a different policy was adopted. When hon. gentlemen on that side came to him, the case received fair consideration, and was dealt with on its merits, without looking to the political aspect of the men who supported it. Indeed, he had often been found fault with by his colleagues for having shown so much favour to the Liberals, as they professed themselves to be. There was no Liberalism about them, he regretted to say, and they assumed a name which they were not entitled to. Neither justice nor liberality belonged to that party, and, no matter how he might be twitted for having done so, he did rightly in saying he did not belong to the Administration. He was not a follower of Sir John A. Macdonald's party, as they were

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aware, because he had been a Liberal all his life; but he would assert this that that party had shown more liberality, more sound statesmanship, more breadth of view, more desire to promote the prosperity of this country, than the gentlemen professing to be Liberal who occupied the Government benches. He did not wish to occupy the time of the House longer in connection with this matter, but, as the

hon. member for South Bruce had been so ready to interrupt him, he thought he had not trespassed too much upon their patience when he endeavoured to place the matter before them in its proper light. He thought a gentle. man like the hon. member for South Bruce, who possessed such great talents, such ability and astuteness, should have used them in some better way than trying to prevent a gentleman who had been misrepresented to set himself right with the House and the country.

MR. BLAKE said that, whenever he found an hon. member trespassing so much upon the courtesies extended by the House as to speak three times on a debate, and taking advantage of the license afforded him to attack an absent man, he should treat him as he had treated the hon. gentleman that night.

find me ready to meet you whenever MR. MITCHELL: Then you will you like.

Motion to adjourn the debate negatived on a division.

Motion agreed to.

IRON RAILS APPROPRIATED BY ORDER IN COUNCIL.

MOTION FOR RETURN.

MR. MACKAY (Cape Breton) moved for return of quantity of Iron Rails appropriated by Order in Council, showing the railway lines so assisted and the quantity allotted to each; the conditions of transfer; those complying therewith; and the names of the railways, if any, which have not fulfilled the conditions imposed, or have not applied for or received the quantities allotted them. His object, he said, was to find out from the Government the disposition of iron rails to which allusion had already been made He would not take up the time of the House by saying much on the subject, feeling, as he did, that they must be tired of it; at the same time, he felt it was a duty he owed to his constituency and the Island from which he came, to draw the attention of the Government to the fact that, if iron rails were to be distributed at all, they should be dis

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