Mr. CARR. I think the United States is going to support the Ukiah proposition as a domestic proposition, in the same way as Japan and some other countries support similar observatories in their countries.

INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INTERNATIONAL LAW.

Mr. ROGERS. The next item is, International Commission on Public and Private International Law, in which you ask a reappropriation of the present appropriation.

Mr. CARR. That appropriation has not been spent and has been reappropriated year by year on the understanding that the gentlemen were carrying out the work authorized by the first general meeting they had of this commission. On that occasion the work was allotted to the various members and the representatives of the various countries, and since that time there has been no further meeting, and so far as I know no part of this money has been expended. Mr. ROGERS. Is the $15,000 still available?

Mr. CARR. Yes, sir.

Mr. ROGERS. Is it proper to say "unexpended balance," then? Would you not say the" appropriation" rather than the "unexpended balance"?

Mr. CARR. It would be perfectly proper to say the "appropriation,' and it would mean the same thing. If you should say the "appropriation," then it would raise the question of the entire appropriation being made available each time instead of the unexpended balance. Mr. ROGERS. The entire $15,000 is now available?

Mr. CARR. Yes; it happens that the entire $15,000 is now available. Mr. ROGERS. I think it makes very little difference.

Mr. CARR. But if it were changed, it might be subject to another construction.

SEAMEN'S MISSION AT RIO DE JANEIRO,

BRAZIL -INTERALLIED COM

MITTEE FOR THE REEDUCATION OF WAR CRIPPLES.

Mr. ROGERS. The next item is for the Seamen's Mission at Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Following that is the item for the Interallied Committee for the Reeducation of War Cripples. Those are nontreaty items but very meritorious international obligations, I take it, Mr. Carr?

Mr. CARR. This contribution to the Seamen's Mission at Rio enables the United States to get a great deal of assistance and help for its seamen and at a ridiculously low contribution of $50 a year. It is just a small contribution to maintain good will on the part of these missions and show an interest in their work. It ought to be continued, of course. The Interallied Mission for the reeducation of war cripples is quite a different sort of thing. It is a result of the conference in London and the recommendation of the Secretary of War. We took part in the conference. The appropriation has been carried since 1919 as a regular contribution toward the maintenance of this international committee.

Mr. ROGERS. Do you know whether we are represented on that committee?

Mr. CARR. Our official representative at present is Mr. Caffery, Secretary of the Embassy at Madrid, who represented the Government at the first conference.

Mr. ROGERS. I never heard of this thing except in this appropriation bill. It is not the sort of thing that one reads about in the newspapers. I think a little abstract of the purposes and performances of this interallied committee would be worth inserting in the record.

Mr. CARR. In April, 1917, the United States was invited to participate in the conference on measures for the reeducation of war cripples. Conferences were held in Paris in July, 1917, and in London in October, 1917, which were attended by the representatives of the Department of State, War Department, Interior Department, Labor Department, Red Cross, Young Mens' Christian Associations, and Rockefeller Foundations. As a result of these conferences a budget was drawn up for the various expenses of the committee, and it was voted to create an institute for matters concerning war cripples to be located in Paris and serve as a central bureau for the collection of information and for study and coordination of efforts made in the several belligerent countries on behalf of war cripples. The general purpose of the committee may be said to be: The study of the professional reeducation of war cripples; conferring as to ways. and means of educating and reeducating the cripples so as to prepare them for the work that they have been accustomed to doing or the new work that they might be educated to do; to make available all the information which has been collected in the various hospitals as to the ways and means of educating these men, so that all the Governments interested and contributing toward the expense may be informed on the subject.

LEGATION BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS AT SAN SALVADOR.

Mr. ROGERS. The next item, legation building and grounds at San Salvador, you have already discussed.

INTERNATIONAL HYDROGRAPHIC BUREAU.

The next item, for the international hydrographic bureau, is a new item and $4,000 is recommended.

Mr. CARR. That recommendation is submitted at the instance of the Secretary of the Navy and the Secretary of Commerce. There was held in London in June and July, 1919, an international hydrographic conference at which delegates from 22 States were present, and the unanimous wish expressed was that an international hydrographic bureau should be created as soon as possible. The primary object would be to institute a permanent liaison between the national hydrographic offices of the world and insure continuity of the association which has been temporarily so successfully established by the London conference. The conference is unanimous in recognizing that the creation of such a bureau would furnish a tremendous advantage to all the maritime powers, especially in obtaining uniformity in all hydrographic publications to the seamen of all nations. At the present moment when it is necessary to push with great activity all hydrographic work which contributes so largely to the economic development of the world, it appears necessary to coordinate the

efforts of all hydrographic surveyors by establishing between them a permanent link, and this can only be carried out by an international bureau as now proposed.

The conference appointed a provisional committee composed of three of its members, Rear Admiral Sir John Parry, hydrographer of the British Navy; M. J. Renaud, director of the hydrographic service of France; Capt. E. Simpson, hydrographer of the United States Navy; and gave them the mandate to take necessary steps for the creation of an international hydrographic bureau on a permanent basis and to maintain its international status. The committee has examined the question of costs as far as possible and is of the opinion that the annual expense of the bureau may be estimated at at least 250,000 francs, or £10,000 gold, and it is hoped that the cost would be equally divided between the States which sent delegates to the conference, and thus each would pay an annual subscription of about 12,500 francs, and that this figure should be taken as representing the contribution which would be required from each State in order to insure the creation and the subsequent work of the bureau. At present it is not possible to specify the expenses in detail, as it is not known how many States will contribute. It appears to be a matter of further consideration as to whether it would not be better for the large maritime powers to contribute a larger sum than is contributed by the other States. It is desired that each State which sends delegates to the conference should give its formal adhesion to the bureau and undertake an annual subscription, and when sufficient funds are secured the committee will take the necessary steps for the establishment of the bureau.

Mr. ROGERS. Why, Mr. Carr, when the estimated cost for each State at a maximum is £500, somewhat less than $2,500, do you request $4,000 in the estimates?

Mr. CARR. The estimate, as you will note, is hardly a final one, and in preparing the estimate it appears to have been assumed that later details would raise the amount to $4,000. These details have not been received, however, and I think the amount may be reduced to $2,500.

FOR SALARIES OF THE CONSULAR SERVICE.

Mr. ROGERS. The next item is for salaries of the Consular Service. That item we have discussed pretty fully in our preliminary talk on this question. If you have anything you would like to add, Mr. Carr, perhaps it can be put in the hearings.

Mr. CARR. I will insert in the record the detailed outline of all the salaries we are paying the members or people in different classes. and so on, if you wish it.

Mr. ROGERS. That is in conformity with my previous request?