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equitable administration of their affairs are among the subjects to which the Government has given its attention, and the House will be happy to learn that, following on the steps that have been adopted among the Indians themselves to discover their sentiments, a measure will be brought be fore it for the purpose of defining and regulating the civil and political rights of the red race. It is a work of Christian charity and philanthropy which, if it had been accomplished in time in other countries, would have prevented terrible wars and unheard of cruelties. The Government, up to this time, has looked at the question in a proper light, and its policy of conciliation and patience towards our brethren of the woods has been such as to attract them to us and render comparatively easy the definition of their rights and privileges.-We must expect a diminution of our revThe commercial prostration which has affected all Governments cannot but affect us too. But I am happy to see that by a wise reduction in the expenses of the several departments of the public service which the whole country will applaud-the Government hopes to re-establish the equilibrium of our finances. Anyhow, we shall not be long before we are able to render an account of the exact state of things; and it is probable that in a few days the Hon. Minister of Finance and the hon. member for Cumberland will have thrown across the Chamber a sufficient quantity of figures, that members of this House who, like myself, are not financiers, may not find themselves astray more than three millions.—The Province of Manitoba has attracted the attention of the Government in respect to its financial position. Whatever the nature of its wants and demands may be, we should, in any case, felicitate it on the manner, eminently practical, in which it has been able, before presenting its case to us, to reduce its ordinary expenses by the suppression of a part of its administrative machinery. The abolition of its Legislative Council is,under the circumstances actually existing, an act of the highest prudence and, at the same time, of the purest abnegation. To save one of its diseased arms it

has courageously amputated the other, and this lattor has lent itself to the operation in the most gracious manner possible. Here is a good commencement, and one which permits us to take a favorable view of the case of Manitoba. I know a certain large Provinco where a similar amputation would be at the present moment impossible. It would prefer to lose the Federal subsidy rather than sacrifice the right arm of the local constitution, the immortal Legislative Council, the deliberations of which are the delight of thẻ ancient capital. So let us speak of it no longer, that impotent arm will remain bandaged yet a long while, and will not be cut off if that depends on itself.-The House eagerly awaits the correspondence, reports and other documents relative to the construction of the Pacific Railway which are promised it. The Speech from the Throne does not announce to us any change in the policy of the Government in reference to this enterprise. I am glad, for my part, and I would say to the Government: continue to follow the tactics of Fabius, and take the council of the wise Festinan Lente! The other subjects which are mentioned in the Speech from the Throne, and which I have not touched, as I must keep myself within due limits, are of great importance, and tne measures in connection with them will doubtless be pressed forward with all the diligence that the want of complete legislation in their regard warrants. In concluding, His Excellency hopes that wisdom and moderation will preside over our deliberations. Mr. Speaker, we will not disappoint that expectation. There are in this Chamber many conflicting principles, and, unfortunately, yet more prejudice in full ebullition. It cannot be otherwise in a House issuing from the popular will of seven distinct Provinces, which but a short while since had no common tie, and little or no points of resemblance with each other. But we have nothing to fear in the matter of excess of language, dangerous recriminations or appeals to passion in a Chamber such as ours, which has already shewn in the past so much moderation in its acts, and so much wisdom in the settlement of questions the most difficult. I thank

you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the House for the kind attention it has given me.

Mr. SPEAKER--Having read the motion, asked whether it was the pleasure of the House to adopt the Address en bloc, or to have it read paragraph by paragraph.

Hon. Members-Dispense! dispense! Mr. SPEAKER-Having read the first paragraph, asked if it was the pleasure of the House to adopt it.

Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD-Mr. Speaker, my hon. friends, the mover and seconder of the Address, cannot claim exemption from criticism, for although they are young members they are not new members. We have the right to exercise stern criticism in our remarks to-day, and in the character of an appreciative but stern critic allow me to offer to both my felicitations on the happy and eloquent manner in which they have done their duty. As to the speech itself, to which they have moved a response, I can say that it is a most harmless and innocent printed document. I hope that there is no torpedo under it which will create an explosion before the Session is over. However, it looks so amiable on its face, that I certainly do not propose, nor do I suppose, that any of my friends on this side of the House will offer an amendment to it; and so the millenium of which my honorable friend has spoken, has happened already. This Address will, I hope, receive the unanimous assent of this House. In the first paragraph a very proper allusion has been made His Excellency's late visit to the United Kingdom, and I cordially agree with everything that has been said by these two gentlemen and in respecting this paragraph, and in laudation of the illustrious individual who represents Her Majesty so well and so gracefully in this country. We can say here what they have said, and we can supply what he could not say in his speech, that his efforts in the way of explaining the position of Canada to the people of England, and in calling the attention of the people of England to the feeling prominent in Canada, was done with the view of benefitting this country, and with the

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usual happy eloquence and excellent tact which have always distinguished His Excellency. My hon. friend the leader of the Government, after a review of his speeches in West Ontario on a former occasion, said that he would not want a better emigration agent than His Excellency the Governor General. useful duty he performed in a more That agreeable and marked manner while in England, and I have no doubt that his speeches and remarks, and the influence which those remarks will carry with them, from his high position and from the able and eloquent manner in which they have been presented to the English public, will go far to counteract the effects of the utterances of the official AgentGeneral. The next paragraph is one which we cannot afford to smile uponthat is, the stagnation which exists in this country. We must all deplore that this stagnation exists. It may be our duty to enquire whether it is created altogether by sympathy with the depression existing elsewhere, or whether there have not been causes, or there are not now causes, which will continue that depression unless by alministrative or legislative action it is removed. I have no doubt

it will be our duty to address ourselves calmly, seriously and zealously to the consideration of that subject. The completion of the Intercolonial Railway is a matter for congratulation in this House, and in this country. I believe when that road is in full operation we will have one of the best railways, if not the very best, on this continent, and, considering the excellence of the road and the high class of the work we have in that line, it will be one of the cheapest in America. I will not now, as we are resolved to have no dissension on this millenial sion, enter into the question as to location. I have always contended, whether as a military work or as a railway which will have the effect of developing one of the great industries of the Maritime Provinces, the fishing interest, or as a road which will have the effect of encouraging and developing a great section of the Maritime Provinces, which without this Intercolonial Railway would continue comparatively in a state of stagnation,

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that the location of this road cannot | criticize, and perhaps animadvert
only be defended, but can be success- strongly upon the conduct of the Ad-
fully justified. We were informed ministration, it is but due they should
that in the early part of the com- receive praise from my hands and from
ing summer the road will be not the hands of us all, when they are de
only completed but actually in run- serving of it. I was glad to see yes-
ning order. I hope-indeed, I am terday the lively proof of the consum-
sure my hon. friend at the head mation of that Act. It brought to my
of the Government will early direct mind associations of Westminster Hall,
his attention (if he has not already and to use an old joke, I have no doubt
done so) to the best mode of running experience will show that although
that road, and that he will be in a posi- the garb of the judges is bright
tion, before the conclusion of the scarlet they will show themselves
Session, to inform this House and the to be "deep read.” The measures that
country whether it is the intention of are propounded, so far as I have been
the Government to work it directly as
able to understand the Address, are
a Government road, or to make run- merely details of what has happened.
ning arrangements with other roads. There is no indication of what the
Whether he does so or not, I will ven- action of the Government is to be for
ture to call his attention now, as I the present Session. The measures that
have on a previous occasion privately are mentioned here are all of a prac-
done, to the necessity, when that road tical character. They are not of over-
is in actual every-day use, of taking whelming importance, and I think the
steps to protect water-borne freight country will not suffer much in pros-
coming from the West from undue perity, credit or happiness, if not one
competition by this line.-I have no of them should be passed this Session.
doubt the Island of Prince Edward is Still they are practical, and as we can-
already enjoying great advantages not always be in heroics, we must be
from the opening of the Prince Edward satisfied with every-day business.
Island Railway. It is true we see in The measures respecting Common
the newspapers that there are some Carriers, Life Insurance Companies-
faint grumblings in the Island regard- giving greater security to policy
ing the manner in which the road has holders-and systematizing statistics
been constructed and is now being con- about criminals, are all very well
ducted; but I have no doubt the
no doubt the in their way, and I have no doubt they
Minister of the Interior will cast oil on will occupy us but a short time. I think
the troubled waters, and those mur- that gentlemen on this side-especially
murs will be confined to the Island
those belonging to the late Govern-
and not extended to our quiet arena. ment-must thank most gratefully the
With respect to the clause connected present Administration for the testi-
with the Fisheries and compensation mony that they are about to give to
for their use, I can only say I re- the value of the legislation of past
gret that any circumstances have pre- years. They do not speak of reform-
vented the appointment of an arbitra- ing that legislation. They are going
tor by the United States, and retarded to continue it, consolidate it, put it in
the progress of the reference and final wax, embalm it for the benefit of pos-
settlement of the question. I presume terity. The legislation of the past,
the United States have reasons for the we are assured, is to be put into a
delay, and if so, that they will be sub- volume and preserved as a monument
mitted to this House. With respect to of wisdom for future generations.
the establishment of a Supreme and The Acts relating to the Indians
Exchequer Court, all I can say is this that are promised, will be of very
-that I congratulate the country and great importance indeed. Of course,
give due praise to the Administration until we see them, we cannot say what
for the selection of the bench for that their extent may be, or what their
court. I believe on the whole it is a nature. From the manner in which
strong and efficient bench, that it has they are to be introduced, and from
given confidence to the country, and the fact stated that the Indians them-
as sometimes it may be our duty to selves are to be consulted as to their

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view of the legislation, I imagine the measures to be proposed are of considerable importance. The financial clause is not as couleur de rose as the beginning of the speech. We are told that the stagnation in trade has seriously affected the revenue, but we have the consolation of knowing it is only temporary, and that by due attention to economy the depression will be speedily removed. Whether the economies which are announced in this clause will affect the efficiency of the service or not, depends, of course, on the details, and we can only judge of that when we see them. I notice by the paragraph that it is proposed to curtail the expenditure in all branches of the Government. If so, there will be a most serious and extensive bill of economy. When we have

these details we will be better able to judge the extent to which the economies are to be carried. I would deeply regret if this depression should induce the Government to impede or seriously obstruct or postpone the development of the country, as they believe that the depression is only temporary. We have already experienced some of the measures of economy. I presume that the abolition of the office of AgentGeneral is one of them. It is an economy which has been loudly called for in the country and has been at last completed. The Government deserve the credit of having stopped the leak, but at the same time they must remember they are chargeable with having made the auger-hole. At the time the Agent-General was appointed I think, from this side of the House, there were sundry warnings of what the result would be. In my place, standing where I do now, I predicted the disappearance of the Agent-General before long. He has gone, but I am not at all sure he has disappeared from motives of economy. We have it almost directly from him (because we see it in a Dundee newspaper with which he is connected) that it was the result of a diabolical plot of the Ultramontanes of Canada that these Ultramontanes-who hate the introduction of Englishmen, Irishmen and Scotchmen if they are Protestants (and I am not sure

whether he says they would not object to them even if they were Catho lics)-were resolved to have the Agent-General turned out of office, and although his hon. friend and my hon. friend the Premier stood by him as long as he could—and we all know how long he will stand by his friends when they are in the wronghe was obliged by the Ultramontanes to sacrifice one friend and abolish the Agent-General of Canada. So while we must thank the Administration for this economy, we cannot at all applaud the motives to which their late employé attributes his removal. Another economy, I have no doubt, will be carried out, and if so, it will be in accordance with the suggestion of this side of the House. When the Bill for the inaugu ration of the North-West Government was proposed last Session, I said until there is a larger body of people to be ruled, the constitutional Governor of Manitoba might still be entrusted with the management of the NorthWest. As the constitutional Governor of Manitoba he has little to do, and he might very well have given his spare time-and he had plenty of it on his hands, and, as I understand, did not grumble at the labor-to the administration of the affairs of the North-West Territories. But my hon. friend the Premier, in his usual incisive way, said it was absolutely necessary that the Government should be established without delay, and stationed far away from Winnipeg and its influences. I was not convinced, but I was silenced, and the Bill passed; but we do not see that the Government has been established after all. I flatter myself in the calm consideration of the subject which my hon. friend gave it after the prorogation, and in his own chamber, that he began to feel there was no such imminent necessity as he at first thought for the immediate appointment of a second Governor. At all events no appointment has yet been made, and as we have no complaint from the North-West, and have saved a considerable amount from the delay, I presume the hon. gentleman will make the saving a permanent one by continuing the masterly inactivity which he has shown hitherto with respect to this Govern

ment. We are told that correspondence, reports, and other papers regarding the construction of the Pacific Railway will be laid before us. We will, of course, be exceedingly happy to receive all this information, and to give it every consideration. No indication, however, is given in the speech, (and I must say it is a serious `omission), as to the course to be taken by the Government either administratively or by means of additional legislation on this important subject. No intimation is given of any kind, but I presume it will be forthcoming when we get the ministerial explanations, which we may hope for at an early day, in relation to the reconstruction of the Government when it was thought necessary to add to its strength by the selection of my hon. friends the Minister of Justice and the President of the Council. When we receive this explanation, then, most likely, we will be informed in what manner the divergence between my hon. friends the Premier and the Minister of Justice on this important subject has been settled. I presume that they will give us some information as to what the future course of the Government will be. The last clause of the speech, which refers to Manitoba, shows that the hon. gentlemen opposite arc falling into our mistake about better terms. There was a great deal of talk about the unconstitutionality, etc., of some of our legislation in that direction. But still, such is life; my hon. friend has fallen into our mistakes. Experience has shown him we were not so far wrong in our previous breaches of the constitution and assaults on the revenue as he then alleged we were. I think it is Benedict who says, "when I declared I would die a bachelor I did not think I would ever be married." The same with my hon. friends: they did not think when they were in opposition they would ever be ministers. I hope the longer their experience extends, and the more they feel the cares and responsibilities of government, the more sympathy they will have with their predecessors; and when the day will come when they return to this side of the House-

will be the millenium. I do not think
he enjoys a millenium at the present
I think that there are some
time.
thorns, some tares, whether sown by
their own friends or by enemies I
know not, and I think it is wrong for
us to enquire; but my hon. friends
will admit it is not a bed of roses.
move any
It is not proposed to
amendment to this Address. Unless
any hou. gentleman desires to move an
amendment, perhaps it will not be ne-
cessary to move it paragraph by para-
graph, and it can be carried en bloc.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE-I am sure
the Government have no
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any of the

reason to of criticriticisms

of the hon. gentleman. He has indicated that in all probability be neath the smooth surface of the speech delivered by His Excellency, there is some terrible torpedo that will damage the country. The hon. gentleman has made allusion to the speech delivered by His Excellency in London. I can only say, as a Canadian then in England, his knowledge of the country, and the exertions he made to bring that knowledge prominently before other portions of the world, were of great service to Canada, and I have no doubt that the country at large appreciates the efforts of His Excellency in the speeches referred to, both in England and during his tour in Canada the previous year. As

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the hon. gentleman's expression, that he hoped His Excellency's efforts in England would counteract the efforts of the Agent-General, I think it would be better not to have made that remark. Mr. Jenkins was a most zealous and devoted friend of Canada; and whatever fault may have been found by the hon. gentleman opposite, by newspapers in the interests of the Opposition, and by other public bodies and individuals, there can be no doubt whatever that he was extremely anxious and zealous in endeavouring to promote the interests of Canada, and I feel bound to bear testimony to the character of his efforts. The Government will not at present enter into

Mr. BLAKE-That will be the mil-explanations with regard to the course that they have pursued in connection with immigration matters, as the

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Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD-That subject will come up at the proper time.

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