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been presented praying for such action. This was very unfair on the part of the hon. member, as the latter at the time alone had any information in this regard in his possession, rendering an immediate reply impossible. The papers were brought down, and what proved to be the case? The postmaster, it was true, had performed his duties to a considerable extent by deputy, but this was done by three out of four of these officials throughout the country. As to the petition, to it were appended only fifteen or twenty signatures, comprising those of three persons, members of a single firm; one other of the signers received his mail at the office, and another did so, perhaps, only twice or thrice a year. The balance were obtained all over the township of Osnabruck, and with the exception of those mentioned, not one of these individuals obtained his mail matter at this office. They were, also, all adherents of the opposite political party. It was not claimed that the duties had been inefficiently performed; no complaints against the postmaster existed; and under these circumstances, it appeared to him, when was taken into consideration the remarkable coincidence that although this person had employed a deputy for several years, this was not objected to until after the elections of 1872, that this dismissal could only be ascribed to political causes.

Mr. McDONALD (Cape Breton) rose to make a personal explanation. The Premier had said that he had not moved in this matter previously, because he (Mr. McDonald) did not wish to, and because he was so prompted by his friends, and in the interest of his client. The facts were these: In 1874, when the notice was called, he explained that he had received information from. the Postmaster-General which induced him to drop it, and

did so. Last year, when it was called, he rose to make the motion, but was called to order by the Premier, an understanding, of which he was ignorant, having been reached between the First Minister and the Leader of the Opposition, that no argument was to take place that day on a notice of motion; and he wished above all things to make an explanation. When the mat

ter came up a second time it was towards the end of the Session, at six o'clock, and thereupon the PostmasterGeneral at once left his seat. As he (Mr. McDonald) did not wish to take action in the Postmaster-General's absence, he deferred it. On the third occasion the notice was reached at 8.30 o'clock; it was first on the list, and the Premier moved an adjournment of the House. Consequently he was unable to discuss the matter last year, and during the present Session he had seized the first opportunity to bring the question before Parliament. The Premier said that he (Mr. McDonald) had been prompted to abstain making the motion; this he denied, save to the extent that he was requested not to do so by the late PostmasterGeneral.

Mr. GALBRAITH stated that a postmaster in his county, who was not a drunkard, but an earnest member of a temperance society, and who had been for several years a warden of the county, had been dismissed from his office for political reasons by the late Administration, owing to the efforts of political opponents in the neighborhood. Strong feeling having existed amongst the Conservatives against this official, repeated attempts were consequently made to injure the man's character; and one person was, for connection with them, sentenced to serve a term in prison for the crime of perjury. Charges were made against the postmaster, and an investigation was held; none of them were, however, fully proven, shewing that the memories of the witnesses were either defective, or their evidence fabricated. The Government dismissed the postmaster on the report of the Inspector, though a petition in his favour, signed by nearly every man in the village had been presented; he moved for the papers, and the return included a very short report from the Inspector. He might say, that the postmaster had, in 1872, at a public meeting, controverted a statement made by a prominent Conservative, and was at the time threatened with dismissal.

When the change of Government took place, the gentleman in question brought the matter before the Admin

istration; and on re-investigation, it was found that no ground existed for the action taken by the former Cabinet, and consequently he was reinstated and his interim successor, who was a very worthy person, dismissed. Last year a motion was made for the papers in this relation; and at the suggestion of the Postmaster General, all documents in this connection were brought down. It was then established that a very large portion-nearly the whole-of the report of the Inspector, to which he had referred, had been suppressed by the late Administration; and the party who made the motion, discovering that his position was untenable, at once let the matter drop.

Mr. COCKBURN said on the very evening three years ago when the hon.

member for Stormont stated the case repeated again to-night, he (Mr. Cockburn) had mentioned a parallel case, the postmaster at Gravenhurst having been dismissed without notice by the late Government. It was true he was absent, but he had a deputy in his place, and he would have attended if he had received notice.

Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said with respect to the case mentioned by the hon. member for North Lanark, he regretted exceedingly the hon. gentleman from South Lanark, who knew tleman from South Lanark, who knew all the circumstances, was not present. However, the facts were easily under

stood from the statement now made.

The charge brought against the postmaster, if true, would have been sufficient to deprive him of the confidence of the head of his Department. That charge was investigated by the Inspector, in the presence of the accused, and a report submitted to the Department on which the dismissal was based. Afterward the postmaster was restored by Mr. Macdonald, the first Postmaster-General in the present Government. The hon. member said the whole report was not brought down in 1873. Of course, he (Sir John) could not now say how that might be, but he was quite sure the Postmaster-General in in his Government was not a man to garble a report of any kind. There was in this case a full investigation, and a report on which the Government acted.

Mr. MACKAY-The hon. member of Cumberland stated in his place that two barristers swore to the fact that in my election campaign I had threatened the Postmaster of Christmas Island with dismissal.

Hon. Mr. TUPPER-I stated we

had it in evidence from the hon. gentleman's colleague that two respectable barristers had made affidavits they that when they brought forward their were prepared to prove the fact, and witnessess they were not allowed to speak.

Mr. MACKAY rose to speak but was called to order, having already spoken.

Mr. KERR rose for the simple purPose of doing an act of justice to an absent friend and highly respectable citizen of Canada. The right hon. saying it was either the postmaster of member for Kingston was in error in Bloomfield or Baltimore who had interrupted him and Mr. Smith on the hustings.

Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD—I do not remember what postmaster it was, but it was a postmaster.

two postmasters present; and if the Mr. KERR said these were the only right hon. gentlemen knew them as he (Mr. Kerr) did, he would be convinced they were incapable of the conduct charged against them.

Mr. JONES (Halifax) moved the adjournment of the House.

Mr. MACKAY (Cape Breton) said. his case had been investigated by one of the ad hoc judges, and subsequently taken before a full bench, and there argued for a considerable time; but none of the charges against him had been substantiated. He was amazed when he heard his hon. colleague made charges which he knew perfectly well had been thoroughly disposed of in the investigation which extended over some four months, and in which he (Mr. MacKay) had been accused of every crime in the political calendar. In that trial seventy or eighty witnesses were examined, and when the petitioner found he could not unseat him, he (the petitioner) and his counsellor made affidavit they believed they could prove something else against

him in connection with the dismissal | did not imagine when he made the mo-
of the postmaster at Christmas Island tion that the discussion would have as-
-a person that two witnesses on the sumed such proportions, but he had
stand swore they would not believe on not expected that his hun. colleague
oath, and one of whom swore he was would have made a speech in this rela-
not responsible for his acts or words. tion. Having done so he was bound to
The statemont of the hon. members for respond; the argument of his hon. col-
Cumberland and Kingston that the league was very disingenuous, and in
person who was appointed to the posi- fact the hon. member had sought to
tion of postmaster in Mr. McDougall's mislead the Speaker and the House.
place, had been convicted of forgery,
Mr. SPEAKER-Order!
was without foundation whatever.

Hon. Mr. TUPPER said he had merely called attention to a statement which he had heard for the first time

in this discussion.

Mr. McDONALD withdrew this remark. His hon. colleague had alleged that if Mr. McDougall and his son had been able to prove what was affirmed, they would have been only too willing Mr. MACKAY said the next time to do so. The inference was that they the hon. gentlemen made statements were not in a position to make on the authority of another, they should such proof, and the House no be prepared to substantiate them. He doubt would be led to believe that was not there to defend this person in they had been allowed to give their any way, but he did not wish to hear evidence. The fact was otherwise; him, being absent, maligned in such a the petition filed against the hon. manner. This matter was brought gentleman charged him with inbefore the Election Court, where a timidating certain Dominion officials, number of witnesses were examined, threatening them with dismissal unless and no inclination was shown by his they voted for him. The names of Mr. hon. colleague and the petitions to re- McDougall and his son were, however, frain from pressing anything they not specially mentioned in the peticould against him. This was no place tion; and when they entered the witin which a charge of such a kind ness box to prove that they had been should be made, but if the hon. member menaced with dismissal-on the second saw fit to do so, he would not have the day of the trial-objection was taken slightest objection to its being referred to the reception of the evidence, and to the Committee on Privileges and the lawyers at once made an affidavit Elections, to be thoroughly investi- declaring that they were able to estabgated a second time. He was in a lish the accusation. lish the accusation. They asked the position not only to defend him judge for permission to state the there, but elsewhere, and he did charges specially in the petition, and not desire to screen himself from this was refused on the same day-the any investigation that might be second of the trial. The porson who be made, so far as his election or the was recommended by his hon. coldismissal of the postmaster of Christ- league, and who was appointed to mas Island were concerned. The earn- succeed Mr. McDougall, had been reestness with which the right hon. moved by the Local Government from member for Kingston and the hon. the Commission of the Peace because member for Cumberland had taken up he was guilty of perjury. The late this matter, regarding which neither Postmaster-General, to whom he had appeared to be very well informed, mentioned this matter, made enquiries proved in his opinion, very conclusive of his hon. colleague, who corroborated ly, the truth of the adage that "Old his statement; and this was the cause "smugglers make very good Customs' of the cancellation of that appointment. "House officers. This was the person to whom the hon. gentleman referred as having made a second affidavit.

Mr. McDONALD (Cape Breton) replied that the conduct of the hon. member for Halifax did not surprise him any whatever. On another occasion he would refer to this matter. He

The motion for adjournment being withdrawn, the motion of Mr. McDonald was carried.

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ST. PETER'S CANAL.

Hon. Mr. TUPPER said he was not at all surprised that the hon. First Minister was unwilling to discuss this

The adjourned debate on the improvement of the St. Peter's Canal question. The hon. gentleman and being called,

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE said he had requested Mr. Flynn to allow it to remain over until the Chief Engineer came home, and the hon. gentleman had consented.

Hon. Mr. TUPPER could not understand what the Chief Engineer had to do with this discussion. The contract had been let and was being prosecuted, and the question was with reference to the dimensions of the canal. He could scarcely imagine that the Hon. Public Minister having taken the responsibility of reducing the proposed dimensions was not prepared to make the statement. If this was a mere question of postponement he wished to address the House on the subject; but if the hon. First Minister expected the engineer, who was in Nova Scotia or somewhere else, he had no objection to give way.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE said the hon. gentleman might take his own course. He would have nothing to say in the matter.

Mr. FLYNN said he was very desirous that the adjourned debate should be continued, but the Hon. Premier had expressed a wish that it should stand over until the engineer was here to give him some more information. He agreed to the arrangement, and as the engineer had not arrived and he could not get the information specified, he thought the matter should stand over.

Hon. Mr. TUPPER said he would call the order unless the hon. First Minister would state when he expected the engineer.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE-I will not state anything of the kind.

some of his colleagues seemed to have
arrived at the conclusion that no one
was interested in it except the hon.mem-
ber for Richmond. As a member of this
House and of a former Government
which provided for the construction of
St. Peter's Canal, and as one of the re-
peesentatives of Nova Scotia and the
Dominion, he felt a deep interest in the
down the House would come to the
subject, and he thought before he sat
conclusion that the hon. gentleman had
good reason for adopting the very ex-
traordinary course he has pursued with
a reference to this debate. On a pre-
vious occasion, the hon. gentleman
wished it continued, because he wanted
to make a statement, when the hon.
member for Richmond was in his place,
and subsequently he gave the House
another reason that some engineer
wished to procure some facts.
was expected here, from whom he
The
Province of Nova Scotia, provided for
the construction of the canal under the
impression that it was of great impor-
tance to the trade and business of the
country. The canal was in an advanced
condition at the time of the Union,
and every measure was taken to press
it forward. It was ultimately finished,
and the predictions of many parties
who were unable to value the work,
were not realized. It was found that

during 1871, no less than from 600 to
700 vessels and from 200 to 300 boats
The increase
made use of the canal.
in the trade and business of the coun-
try demonstrated the dimensions of
the canal were insufficient, and the hon.
member for Charlevoix, then Minister
of Public Works, directed a report to
be made on its enlargement. An engi-
neer of great ability recommended
the enlargement of the canal to 50

Hon. Mr. TUPPER-Then I ask feet in width and 15 in depth;

that the order be called.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE-Then I shall move in amendment that the next order be taken up.

Mr. MASSON-I call the Speaker's attention to the fact that the hon. gentleman cannot make a motion when an hon. member is on his feet.

and the late Government were SO
convinced of the necessity of this
improvement that they decided
to ask for
to ask for an appropriation for
the work. The present Government
came into power, and upon their
shoulders devolved the public works
undertaken by their predecessors; but
they were apparently satisfied with the

possession of office, and came to the conclusion that all that the people required had already been achieved, and that it was of no consequence whether public works of the greatest importance were proceeded with or not. The hon. gentlemen opposite allowed the Session to pass without making any provision whatever for this improvement, except that in 1874 $75,000 were voted for an estimated expenditure of $250,000. The people naturally expected they were going to carry out this work; the Government had asked for this money, and it had been placed ungrudgingly at their service. But how did they perform the work? Not a blow was struck, and the entire season was allowed to pass with the money voted in their hands, and with the country pledged to the immediate prosecution of the work. In 1875, another Session having passed over and renewed pledges having been given to the people, tenders were invited on the 9th May; and he asked the Minister of Public Works, who had had this money in his hands between and why years, the call for tenders was delayed until then, everybody knowing that the summer season is the only time when such work should be undertaken? After the contractors had expended a large amount of time and money in examining the plans and specifications, nothing was done, and on the 5th of July amended plans were made and tenders were again invited. He wanted for a moment to draw the attention of the House to the power attempted to be exercised by the Minister of Public Works and by the Government in relation to this matter. What would hon. members say if, after the Government had received an appropriation for the widening and deepening of the Welland Canal in accordance with a certain plan, and had declared their intention of performing a certain amount of work, they had come back to the House and confessed they had made a contract on different plans from those agreed upon?

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The House would observe that these tenders were invited before the Minister of Justice became a member of this Government, and that after he entered the Ministry these amended

plans and tenders cutting down and reducing this work to a depth of 143 feet instead of 15 feet and to 36 feet in width instead of 50 feet, were adopted. If there was a gentleman in this House, in this Ministry or in this country who was bound to protect the interests of Cape Breton against this alteration, and the cutting down of this work for which the money had been voted that man was the Minister of Justice. When that hon. gentleman was employed in the laudable work of destroying the Baie Verte Canal project he gave a solemn pledge to the members from the Maritime Provinces, when he was inducing the House to take away the appropriation of a million of dollars out of the estimates for the construction of this work, which it was claimed would cost five or six millions, he represented to the House and to his constituents that if the Maritime Provinces would consent to the abandonment of that project he would pledge himself that that money would be expended in other legitimate public works in the Maritime Provin

ces.

He would read the hon. gentleman's statement from the Reports and "hear! hear." see if he would say

"Hon. Mr. Blake said that this item for the construction of an important public workimportant especially in point of expense-had for a long time appeared in the estimates, and he regarded it as the settled policy of the country, which at any rate he was not prepared to dispute, that an equal amount, supposing the Baie Verte Canal should not be constructed, should be expended for some public purpose of national importance in the Maritime Provinces. He thought that the people of Ontario-he spoke only for his own constituency-would sustain him in the statement that it having been the settled policy of Parliament, for a considerable number of years, that a large expenditure should take place upon this work they would be agreeable if it were proved to be unreasonable or impracticable to carry such a work out, to an equal amount being expended in some other public works, in which the Dominion had an interest. Therefore, so far as he was concerned, speaking for his constituency, the only question he had to consider was whether that particular work was a fit one on which to expend the funds of the Dominion. Upon that question he did not express any opinion. He thought it would not be becoming in him to solve the question, which from the statement of the Leader of the Government, it appeared was not ripe for settlement, the necessary information to that end not being yet forthcoming. But it did seem to him,

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