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object of alarm, he ridiculed that idea. But, at any rate, it was possible to limit the operations of this regiment of eleven hundred and forty men to the Southwestern frontier, if gentlemen were afraid of their being marched up and down the
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Mr. GILLON said, that there was something in this question, just like that some days since, about the galleys. If you do not want them, they shall not be forced upon you. He could not see their use in South Carolina. It was a body of militia that was wanted. There are no tumults in South Carolina to be repressed by a standing army. The expedition against Spain is knocked up. What occasion, then, can there be for them? He feared that this corps was only a part of the old leaven, the gilding of a bad pill. He liked this proposal better than the others of the same sort, only because, as the numbers are inferior, the evils are less. Mr. G. had no idea of hiring other people to do for us what we can do for ourselves. He had voted against the twenty-five thousand men, and the ten thousand, and he should also vote against the present number.
to some persons in office, whom he specified. He believed sincerely that the Senate imagined themselves to be acting for the best; but they could not be such competent judges as persons on the spot. Within the last seven years, there has not been a single instance of an Indian killed, by a white man, unless when the Indians themselves began the quarrel. During the last ten or twelve years, there had been stolen from Georgia, horses to the amount of an hundred thousand dollars. These were often the chief property of poor people, who had nothing else to depend on for supporting their families. Gentlemen say that we have one Indian war already. But if you have two hands, both in the fire at once, will you pull out one before the other? The Creeks are a savage and faithless tribe. Some years ago, a treaty was made with them at New York; and this treaty cost, in presents, sixty-one thousand dollars. Well, before the chiefs got home, a fresh set of murders were committed. A set of Commissioners were next sent, and this embassy cost perhaps an hundred and fifty thousand dollars more. Gentlemen might talk as they thought fit about Indians; for Mr. MADISON said, that he would not enter at his own part, he would not give the life of one large into this subject, but there was one circum- white man for those of fifty Indians. The militia stance in the business which struck him as very had been always successful against them, and the strange. It was proposed to raise a new corps, at regulars had always been beaten; this showed the a bounty of twenty dollars. The present army futility of the present amendment from the Sewanted more than the whole number of this corps nate. Of the successes of the militia, he gave to fill up its deficiencies, and yet the proposal for some striking instances, where they had defeated completing them had been rejected. Thus are we three or four times their own number. As an to be at the expense of supporting the skeleton of evidence of the improper leaning on behalf of the an army. Was it not better to fill up the old corps, Indians, Mr. C. adverted to what had just hapthan to put ourselves to the inconvenience of rais-pened in Georgia. A gang of savages stole some ing a new one? horses. Lieutenant Hay, with a party of dragoons, Mr. MCDOWELL rose to correct what had fallen pursued them, and fell into an ambuscade, where from Mr. AMES, as to the strength of the Indian Mr. Hay and two men were killed. This was the nations on the Southwestern frontier. The Choc-way that the Creeks kept a peace. Soon after, an taws and Chickasaws are, and always have been, Indian, being found in the State, was wounded; friends to the white people, and ready to fight for and in the correspondence read the other day, to them. The Creeks and Cherokees do not, at the the House, it was so stated, as if the white people most, extend to more than seven or eight thou-were to blame. It made every drop of blood in his heart boil, to hear what he heard in this city Mr. CARNES.-The only use that Continental as to the character and conduct of his constituents. troops can be of is, to defend posts; and it has been As a Representative of Georgia, he demanded found, by the experience of several years, that effectual aid for that State. If the House did not posts do more mischief than service. They are choose to grant it, he warned them that the Georgiestablished at a distance of fifteen or twenty miles ans would take measures for themselves. It was from each other. The Indian parties slip in be-needless to speak of economy, after squandering tween them; and the frontier settlers, depending such vast sums as he had mentioned, in the puron the protection of the regulars, are not, as they chase of treaties that were never kept. He was otherwise would be, upon their guard against the against the amendment of the Senate. savages. The consequence is, that they are frequently murdered; while the only service performed by the Continentals is, that when the militia pursue the Indians, they are prevented by the former from crossing what is called the line. That is the whole service which they have performed in Georgia. In short, against the Creeks, they are good for nothing. Mr. C. wished that gentlemen would frankly say, once for all, that the Georgians did not deserve protection, and then the State would know what was to be done. He insisted on it, that, in Georgia, there were improper leanings in favor of the Indians. He referred 3d CoN.-26
Mr. DAYTON rose to contradict one assertion, which had fallen from the gentleman, viz: that the regulars were always beaten by the Indians. If gentlemen exercised their memories, or attended to historical facts, they would see the contrary. General Sullivan had entered the country of the Six Nations, had defeated them, and destroyed their towns, and since that time they had been looked upon as a subdued people. Mr. D. was himself in the army on that expedition, and a witness to the success of the regulars. He was for the amendment.
The question was put that the House do concur
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with the Senate in the said amendment, and passed in the negative-yeas 26, nays 42, as follows: YEAS.-Fisher Ames, David Cobb, Peleg Coffin, Joshua Coit, Jonathan Dayton, George Dent, Thomas Fitzsimons, Dwight Foster, Ezekiel Gilbert, Henry Glenn, James Gordon, William Hindman, Henry Latimer, Amasa Learned, Francis Malbone, William Vans Murray, Theodore Sedgwick, William Smith, Zephaniah Swift, Uriah Tracy, Jonathan Trumbull, John E. Van Allen, Peter Van Gaasbeck, Peleg Wadsworth, Jeremiah Wadsworth, and John Watts.
NAYS.-Theodorus Bailey, Abraham Baldwin, John Beatty, Thomas Blount, Thomas P. Carnes, Thomas Claiborne, Isaac Coles, William J. Dawson, Henry Dearborn, William Findley, William B. Giles, James Gillespie, Alexander Gillon, Nicholas Gilman, Andrew Gregg, Samuel Griffin, William Barry Grove, Daniel Heister, William Lyman, Nathaniel Macon, James Madison, Joseph McDowell, Alexander Mebane, William Montgomery, Andrew Moore, Joseph Neville, John Nicholas, Alexander D. Orr, Josiah Parker, Francis Preston, Robert Rutherford, Thomas Scott, John Smilie, Jeremiah Smith, Thomas Sprigg, Thomas Tredwell, Philip Van Cortlandt, Abraham Venable, Francis Walker, Benjamin Williams, Richard Winn, and Joseph Winston.
SATURDAY, June 7.
An engrossed bill making appropriations for certain purposes therein expressed, was read the third time and passed.
Mr. TRACY, from the committee appointed, presented a bill making an extra allowance to certain clerks in the public offices, and to the widows and families of certain deceased clerks; which was read twice and ordered to be engrossed, and read the third time to-day.
of Robert Lyell, which lay on the table: Where-
An engrossed bill making an extra allowance to certain clerks in the public offices, and to the wiOrdered, That the further consideration of the dows and families of certain deceased clerks, was said amendments be put off till to-morrow. read the third time and passed.
"Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Secretary of War be authorized, and he is hereby directed to place Robert Lyell, a Captain in the late Continental Army of the South Carolina line, upon the invalid pension list, with the annual allowance of an invalid Captain of the said line, to commence at the time of his discharge, after the fall of Charleston, where he was captured by the British army:"
Resolved. That the sum of one hundred and twenty-five dollars be allowed to the clerk employed by the committee appointed to examine into the state of the Treasury Department, to be paid by the Clerk of this House, and charged to the account of Contingent expenses.
The House proceeded to consider the report of the committee to whom was referred the petition
It passed in the negative.
Resolved, That Mr. TRUMBULL, Mr. HINDMAN, and Mr. GILMAN, be appointed a committee, jointly, with such committee as shall be appointed on the part of the Senate, to wait on the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and notify him of the proposed recess of Congress.
Ordered, That the Clerk of this House do carry the said resolution to the Senate, and desire their
The House resumed the consideration of the amendments proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled "An act for the more effectual protection of the Southwestern frontier settlers:" Whereupon,
Resolved, That this House doth disagree to all the amendments to the said bill.
A petition of Thomas Dunn was presented to the House and read, praying to be appointed Assistant Doorkeeper. Laid on the table.
The House proceeded to consider the amendments proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled An act to amend the act, entitled 'An act to enable the officers and soldiers of the Virginia line, on Continental Establishment, to obtain titles to certain lands lying Northwest of the river Ohio, between the Little Miami and Sciota;" and the same being read, were agreed to.
Resolved by the Senate and House of Represent
A message from the Senate informed the House," that the Senate have passed the bill, entitled "An act making certain alterations in the act establishing the Judicial Courts, and altering the time and place of holding certain Courts," with several amendments; to which they desire the concurrence of this House. The Senate have also passed the bill, entitled "An act to amend the act, enti-atives of the United States of America in Congress tled 'An act to enable the officers and soldiers of assembled, That it shall be the duty of the respectthe Virginia line, on Continental Establishment, to ive clerks in the several District Courts of the obtain titles to certain lands lying Northwest of the United States to return true copies of the tables of river Ohio, between the Little Miami and Sciota," fees payable in the Supreme or Superior Courts with several amendments; to which they desire of the State in which such clerks reside, to the the concurrence of this House. The Senate have Attorney General of the United States, on or bealso agreed to the resolution "directing the Secre- fore the first day of December next. tary of War to make out, and return to the District Judges, certain lists, in the cases of invalid pensioners," with several amendments; to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Clerk of this House do carry the said resolution to the Senate, and desire their concurrence.
The House proceeded to consider the amendment proposed by the Senate to the resolution directing the Secretary of War to make out and return to the District Judges, certain lists in the cases of invalid pensioners, and the same being read, was agreed to.
The House proceeded to consider the amendments proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled "An act making certa in alterations in the act for
establishing the Judicial Courts, and altering the time and place of holding certain Courts;" and the same being read at the Clerk's table, some were agreed to, others amended and agreed to, and others disagreed to.
The House proceeded by ballot to the choice of an Assistant Doorkeeper, to commence his services on the first day of the next session; and upon examining the ballots, a majority of the votes of the whole House was found in favor of Thomas Dunn.
Ordered, That the report of the committee to whom were referred the laws of the Territory of the United States Northwest of the river Ohio, passed the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-two, be committed to a Committee of the Whole House on Monday next.
A message from the Senate informed the House, that the Senate have passed the bill, entitled "An act declaring the consent of Congress to an act of the State of Maryland, passed the twenty-eighth of December, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-three, for the appointment of a Health Officer."
The House proceeded to consider the amendments proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled "An act declaring the consent of Congress to an act of the State of Maryland, passed the twentyeighth of December, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-three, for the appointment of a Health Officer," and the same being read, were agreed to. A message from the Senate informed the House, that the Senate insist on their amendments, disagreed to by this House, to the bill, entitled "An act for the more effectual protection of the Southwestern frontier settlers ;" and desire a conference with this House on the subject-matter of the said amendments; to which conference the Senate have appointed managers on their part.
The House proceeded to consider the said message: Whereupon,
Resolved, That this House doth agree to the conference desired by the Senate; and that Mr. NICHOLAS, Mr. CARNES, and Mr. McDowELL, be appointed managers at the same, on the part of this House.
Mr. NICHOLAS, from the managers appointed on the part of this House, to attend the conference with the Senate, on the subject-matter of the amendments depending between the two Houses to the bill for the more effectual protection of the Southwestern frontier settlers, made a report: Whereupon,
Resolved, That this House doth adhere to their disagreement to the said amendments.
The yeas and nays being demanded by one-fifth of the members present, those who voted in the affirmative, are:
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Sprigg, Thomas Tredwell, Philip Van Cortlandt, Abraham Venable, Francis Walker, and Joseph Winston-30.
Those who voted in the negative, are:
Fisher Ames, Abraham Baldwin, David Cobb, Peleg Coffin, Joshua Coit, George Dent, Thomas Fitzsimons, Dwight Foster, Ezekiel Gilbert, Henry Glenn, William Hindman, John Hunter, Henry Latimer, Amasa Learned, Francis Malbone, William Vans Murray, Andrew Pickens, Theodore Sedgwick, William Smith, Zephaniah Swift, Silas Talbot, George Thatcher, Uriah Tracy, Jonathan Trumbull, John E. Van Allen, Peleg Wadsworth, Jeremiah Wadsworth, and John Watts-28.
Mr. TRUMBULL, from the joint committee of the two Houses appointed to wait on the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and notify him of the proposed recess of Congress, reported that the committee had performed that service.
Mr. TREDWELL read a resolution for reducing the salaries paid to the officers of the United States. That of the PRESIDENT was to be reduced, after the present term of appointment, to twelve thousand dollars, that of a member of Congress to four dollars per day, with various others of the same kind.
A motion to print it was rejected. It was then moved to proceed with it immediately.
Mr. WADSWORTH considered it as a good electioneering project. It would, he doubted not, be very popular; and as there were only fifty or sixty members in the House just now, they had better take it up, and try to get all the credit of it to themselves. It was, after some conversation, withdrawn by the mover.
Mr. THATCHER moved that such members as had received their pay up to Monday next, and then absented themselves, should be ordered next session to return as much as they had received for the days when absent. The motion was ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. W. SMITH laid on the table a resolution for granting a delay to persons who had suffered by spoliations in the West Indies, of the payment of duties to Government.
Ordered, That there be a call of the House on Monday morning at nine o'clock.
Resolved, That the Clerk of this House, with the approbation of the SPEAKER, be authorized to employ a third engrossing clerk in his office, for such time, during the next recess, as shall be found necessary, and to pay him for his services, on the SPEAKER's certificate, at the same rate as to the other engrossing clerks, out of the contingent mo
Theodorus Bailey, Thomas Blount, Thomas P. Carnes, Thomas Claiborne, William J. Dawson, William Findley, James Gillespie, Alexander Gillon, Nicholas Gilman, William Barry Grove, Daniel Heister, Nathaniel Macon, James Madison, Joseph McDowell, William Montgome-ney of the House. ry, Andrew Moore, Peter Muhlenberg, Joseph Neville, Anthony New, John Nicholas, Alexander D. Orr, Francis Preston, Thomas Scott, Jeremiah Smith, Thomas
A message from the Senate informed the House, that the Senate have passed a bill, entitled “An act for the further compensation of clerks in the
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Auditor's Office;" to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
The bill sent from the Senate, entitled "An act for the further compensation of clerks in the Auditor's Office," was read twice, and on the question that the said bill be read the third time, it passed in the negative. And so the said bill was rejected. Mr. BENTON, from South Carolina, informed the SPEAKER, that he had been prevented by indisposition in his family, and a long voyage, from attending his duty sooner in that House. This was the day of adjournment, and he wished to inform the House, that he should decline receiving pay for his traveling expenses, or attendance. He was not willing to qualify himself this day, unless it could be noted on the journals that he had refused any compensation. He took the oath.
The SPEAKER laid before the House a Letter from the Treasurer of the United States, accompanying his account of the receipts and payments of public moneys, from the first of January to the thirty-first of March, 1794, inclusive; which were read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Ordered, That a message be sent to the Senate, to inform them that this House, having completed the business before them, are about to adjourn; and that the Clerk of this House do go with the said message.
A message from the Senate informed the House, that the Senate having completed the Legislative business before them, are now about to adjourn until the first Monday in November next: Whereupon, Mr. SPEAKER adjourned the House until the first Monday in November next.